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Mormonism

In answer to the question, or was that a statement....?

I have come back to the fold. I confess Jesus as the ONLY way to the Father and that He is fully God and fully Man. I believe they are one, and not just in purpose. I believe His blood is sufficient to cover all the sins of mankind.

And, yes, I have talked with Terry. He is my brother and helped me greatly.

I know I belong to Jesus but this week has been hard. Satan is at work trying to keep me down.

I will rest in Jesus.
 
"not just in purpose"

Man, how many times had I heard "one in purpose".


waitinontheLamb said:
Jesus as the ONLY way to the Father and that He is fully God and fully Man. I believe they are one, and not just in purpose. I believe His blood is sufficient to cover all the sins of mankind.
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In just those few short phrases you've succeeded in denying Mormonism better than anyone I've ever talked with that has come out of the LDS Church.

waitinontheLamb said:
And, yes, I have talked with Terry. He is my brother and helped me greatly.
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I'm very relieved to hear that!!

If I may be so bold in what way is Satan tempting you?

I'll definately be praying for you!!
 
Potluck said:
...If I may be so bold in what way is Satan tempting you?

I'll definately be praying for you!!
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Yes, I'd be willing to talk you through whatever it is, if you'd allow us to do so.

Good to see you're still here. I didn't really read through this thread until yesterday. I didn't know you were in contact with Judy.

Peace,
Vic
 
christian_soldier said:
Satan is a liar.

Therefore, it stands to reason, if Satan asserts that you are not saved, its a pretty good indicator that you are! :D

Welcome home!
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LOL!!!
:smt023
 
I wanted to be morman when I was prepubescent!
I meant that I wanted to be more of a man when I was prepubescent! :D

Ya'll oughta have my sense of humor. :-? It is not the easiest thing to control at times!!! ;-)
 
Solo said:
I wanted to be morman when I was prepubescent!
I meant that I wanted to be more of a man when I was prepubescent! :D

Ya'll oughta have my sense of humor. :-? It is not the easiest thing to control at times!!! ;-)
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hmmm. I wanted more woman...
 
http://www.whatismormonism.com/

the conclusion of the website is Mormonism is not from God its from man name John Smith.

Can any Mormon here refute what it says, I'm curious about the Mormon religion? After reading the above, many Mormons claimed to stop being Mormon
 
smiling_grin,
While refuting Mormonism in Salt Lake City I found several things I really needed to learn. The most important was to give something in return. For the most part members of the LDS church don't really react well to such things as that site provides. No surprise there. It's not so much pointing out the "wrongs" as it is pointing out what the LDS Church doesn't offer, a personal relationship with our Lord and Savior and the knowledge that one is saved right here, right now without first being judged by someone else here on earth or in the hereafter.

There's a sad reality in that many who come out of Mormonism don't even want to hear anything else concerning ANY religion. Remember, they finally realized they'd been taken and are not apt to embrace another any time soon, if ever.
It's easier to fill a bucket that's already empty than first having to dispense with what's in a full one. And emptying that bucket is a rather painful experience, not for you but for the bucket. It may take a long time for the wounds to heal, if they ever do.

And to reiterate: The Mormon in good standing has a very good chance of losing friends, family and even a job by turning from Mormonism. I found it's as much a culture as it is a religion. I've known many who have raised kids and been blessed with grandchildren that have never ventured out of Utah let alone been exposed to other ideas and beliefs.

Again, when witnessing to a Mormon show them what you have that they don't.
 
Potluck said:
smiling_grin,
While refuting Mormonism in Salt Lake City I found several things I really needed to learn. The most important was to give something in return. For the most part members of the LDS church don't really react well to such things as that site provides. No surprise there. It's not so much pointing out the "wrongs" as it is pointing out what the LDS Church doesn't offer, a personal relationship with our Lord and Savior and the knowledge that one is saved right here, right now without first being judged by someone else here on earth or in the hereafter.

There's a sad reality in that many who come out of Mormonism don't even want to hear anything else concerning ANY religion. Remember, they finally realized they'd been taken and are not apt to embrace another any time soon, if ever.
It's easier to fill a bucket that's already empty than first having to dispense with what's in a full one. And emptying that bucket is a rather painful experience, not for you but for the bucket. It may take a long time for the wounds to heal, if they ever do.

And to reiterate: The Mormon in good standing has a very good chance of losing friends, family and even a job by turning from Mormonism. I found it's as much a culture as it is a religion. I've known many who have raised kids and been blessed with grandchildren that have never ventured out of Utah let alone been exposed to other ideas and beliefs.

Again, when witnessing to a Mormon show them what you have that they don't.
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Potluck - true advice for all our witnessing.

A friend of mine took a class/lecutre about witnessing to Muslims before a trip he took to Afghanistan (this was prior to 9/11).

The main point was Christianity offers hope and assurance. No other religion offers the same hope and assurance of one's eternal destiny.
 
I have read all the post on this topic, but I just want to make it known that I live in Utah. I have all of my life and I know a lot about Mormonism, I can tell you what they do believe and what is just lies. If you have a question about it please don't hesitate to ask it's kind of my area of expertise. Ask me right here on the forum or if you would rather I would be more than happy to answer you questions by way of a PM.

PEACE~MISFIT
 
Good to hear. Mormonism is a moving target that changes under the heading of "Progressive Revelation". What was believed a while back is no longer held today. What's believed today may be changed tomorrow.
 
MISFIT said:
I have read all the post on this topic, but I just want to make it known that I live in Utah. I have all of my life and I know a lot about Mormonism, I can tell you what they do believe and what is just lies. If you have a question about it please don't hesitate to ask it's kind of my area of expertise. Ask me right here on the forum or if you would rather I would be more than happy to answer you questions by way of a PM.

PEACE~MISFIT
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Who do the "Church of JESUS CHRIST of the Latter Day Saints" say that Jesus Christ IS?
 
christian_soldier said:
MISFIT said:
I have read all the post on this topic, but I just want to make it known that I live in Utah. I have all of my life and I know a lot about Mormonism, I can tell you what they do believe and what is just lies. If you have a question about it please don't hesitate to ask it's kind of my area of expertise. Ask me right here on the forum or if you would rather I would be more than happy to answer you questions by way of a PM.

PEACE~MISFIT
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Who do the "Church of JESUS CHRIST of the Latter Day Saints" say that Jesus Christ IS?
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They believe that Jesus is the first born of GOD the father. He is NOT GOD to them he is a lesser God. They believe that God the father, Jesus the son, and the Holy ghost are three separate Gods all with the same purpose. To truly understand the Mormon teaching of this you need to read the Pearl of Great price one of many books that they hold to be scripture also one that the missionaries will never talk to you about. The book tells the creation story much different from the one in Genesis. It tell of a time when the head of the council of the Gods called a meeting to help create a new world, Earth, they chose a God to rule and then asking who should be the savior of this new world the God Elohim (that's the LDS God) asked his two eldest sons, Jesus and Lucifer they chose Jesus and Lucifer lead a rebellion with 1/3 of the "spirit children" of Elohim while 1/3 fought with Jesus and 1/3 sat back and watched. Now here's the thing about the other 1/3 it's not openly thought today but Mormon theology says that they where cursed to be born with black skin. With that being said let me once again say I am NOT mormon, I am a Christian.
 
MISFIT said:
They believe that Jesus is the first born of GOD the father.
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Thank you. And, that He is spirit brother of Lucifer, and that He is a product of creation rather than Creator. True?

Also, do they teach there is a Mother god? And, that God was once flesh and blood man before becoming God? And, likewise, that man can become god in the same sense?
 
One of their older phrases.
"As man is God once was. As God is man can become."
In their older beliefGod was once a man on a far away planet that circled the star Kolob. He was exalted to Godhood because he did everything right. Then the earth was made for him to rule.
I'll see if I can find the reference and scan it.

In the meantime here's a scan of Abraham Chapter 4 from the Pearl of Great Price that Misfit was talking about.
It's a bit big to post here so here's the link.

http://home.comcast.net/~beloveds/Pics/AbrahamCh4.jpg
 
Hey MISFIT. You ever check out Utah Lighthouse Ministry near 1300S West Temple? I don't know if it's still there or not. Sandra tanner continued to run it after her husband Jerald passed away but I haven't been in SLC since early '05.
 
Being a redeemed exmormon, I would be glad to answer any questions you have here.

Most of your understanding is right on the money. Bad thing though is that there are some quaint little twists that can throw you off when witnessing to them.

While the mormon church has taught a mother god, it is much to subtle today to do so. The mormon church of yesteryear was much more honest in it's presentation of it's heresy then todays version.

Todays version is out to be seen as "Christian." A title the early church shunned as all Christian churches were "abominable and corrupt."

The hard thing is that once you pin down a mormon teaching, it will change.

I was sucked back into mormonism for a short while because of the brainwashing and difficulty in sorting it out (well, and the fact that I think I was a false convert would help too) and this is what they do.

So, I would be glad to help out.

So you know, I was in a bishopbric, and was the "stake missionary/ward mission leader" twice while in as well as a couple of other callings, as well as having been married in the Salt Lake temple and endowed in the Jordan River temple, so I have a fairly good understanding of the mormon teaching. I say this simply because mormons will accuse me of ignorance when being witnessed to until I share these facts with them.
 
Potluck said:
Hey MISFIT. You ever check out Utah Lighthouse Ministry near 1300S West Temple? I don't know if it's still there or not. Sandra tanner continued to run it after her husband Jerald passed away but I haven't been in SLC since early '05.
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Lighthouse is still there and doing well.

For those interested, there is a conference coming up on dealing with and witnessing to mormons. Sandra will be one of the presenters.

http://www.compassionateboldness.com

Should be a great one.
 
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