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[JLB]

And, yet, as the data shows, the vaccines do help prevent those things--not 100%, of course--and are orders of magnitude safer than getting COVID.

That's your opinion derived from fake news.

 

[JLB]

The double standard you use is clear to all. You use "evidence" to support your view that comes from a (likely fake) video with (likely fake) doctors and medical scientists.

Your "data" comes from a news channel run by socialists who hate America.

JLB

 

[JLB]

Here is the best medical advice given by the Great Physician.


Jesus answered and said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
Luke 5:31

• Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick.

JLB

 

[T. E. Smith]

Your "data" comes from a news channel run by socialists who hate America.

JLB

Nothing sums up your views more. You're obviously a conspiracy theorist. And yes the vaccine does help prevent people from getting it, suffering from it, and dying.

Here is the best medical advice given by the Great Physician.


Jesus answered and said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
Luke 5:31

• Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick.

JLB

Well duh! So, Dr. Obvious, why is this relevant?

 

[JLB]

Nothing sums up your views more. You're obviously a conspiracy theorist. And yes the vaccine does help prevent people from getting it, suffering from it, and dying.

I'm a Christian and an American.

Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:31-32


JLB

 

[JLB]

Well duh! So, Dr. Obvious, why is this relevant?

What is obvious? Please explain what is obvious?

 

[Free]

If I thought it was fake I wouldn't have posted it.


JLB

That goes without saying. His point clearly is that you are now unwilling to consider that it might be fake.

That's your opinion derived from fake news.

Your "data" comes from a news channel run by socialists who hate America.

JLB

Do you want to know how I can tell you're a Trump fan? Your counter-arguments are all emotion and no substance.

What I have said is derived from studies, which is precisely why news channels from across the spectrum have stated such. The irony is that you will not even consider that your source is fake, despite some good reasons as to why it likely is, yet, you dismiss my sources (which I haven't given) as "fake news." As I said, you are not interested in truth, which is shameful for a Christian.

Here is the best medical advice given by the Great Physician.


Jesus answered and said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
Luke 5:31

• Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick.

JLB

Good for you, you can post Scripture. Anyone can do that; it's having a correct understanding and application that is important. What do you think this means and how does it apply in the context of vaccines, COVID, and this pandemic?

 

[JLB]

That goes without saying. His point clearly is that you are now unwilling to consider that it might be fake.

If you believe it's fake then why do you keep bringing it up?


JLB

 

[JLB]

Do you want to know how I can tell you're a Trump fan? Your counter-arguments are all emotion and no substance.

Your personal opinion of me and your insults are just more trolling.

If you have something of substance to add to the thread then do so, but your baiting and trolling are not welcome.


JLB

 

[JLB]

What I have said is derived from studies, which is precisely why news channels from across the spectrum have stated such.

I haven't seen any studies you have presented, just trolling and insulting, and denying what doctors world wide have discovered.



JLB

 

[JLB]

Good for you, you can post Scripture. Anyone can do that; it's having a correct understanding and application that is important. What do you think this means and how does it apply in the context of vaccines, COVID, and this pandemic?

If a person gets sick from Covid, and they go to a doctor who gives them no medicine to help them, then what use is that doctor?

 

[T. E. Smith]

What is obvious? Please explain what is obvious?

In Jesus' time there were no vaccines. So Jesus statement cannot be fairly applied to vaccines.

I'm a Christian and an American.

Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:31-32


JLB

Okay? Relevant how? Other than that you're a Christian nationalist/"patriot"?

If you believe it's fake then why do you keep bringing it up?


JLB

You brought up fake news in the first place.

I haven't seen any studies you have presented, just trolling and insulting, and denying what doctors world wide have discovered.



JLB

The raven calls the dove black! You are the one denying what scientists worldwide have found.

If a person gets sick from Covid, and they go to a doctor who gives them no medicine to help them, then what use is that doctor?

But how is this relevant? Doctors can give medicine to help with COVID. But as stated, in Jesus' time there were no vaccines. But today, we're actually able to vaccinate people and reduce their chances of getting it as well as any symptoms they may have.

 

[Free]

If you believe it's fake then why do you keep bringing it up?


JLB

Because you won't even answer simple questions which suggest that it is fake. Your reasoning is poor and you can't see your double standard as to what is acceptable evidence. If the source is suspect, and your video certainly is, then the claims made in it are suspect. Yet, you just want to dismiss others' claims as fake with no consideration as to what evidence might be provided.

I know that if I provide legitimate studies as evidence, you'll just post your video in response as though it is equivalent.

I haven't seen any studies you have presented,

Of course I haven't presented any studies; I've been too busy trying to get you to answer some simple questions. You claimed my facts were based on fake news, without warrant for doing so since you cannot possibly know my sources.

and denying what doctors world wide have discovered.



JLB

This is begging the question.

If a person gets sick from Covid, and they go to a doctor who gives them no medicine to help them, then what use is that doctor?

Here you go again. You didn't answer the question but instead just posted the same question you posted previously, which has been answered already.

I'll try again. You keep posting Luke 5:31 as though it is relevant. So, what do you think it means and how does it apply in the context of vaccines, COVID, and this pandemic?

 

[Free]

Your personal opinion of me and your insults are just more trolling.

If you have something of substance to add to the thread then do so, but your baiting and trolling are not welcome.


JLB

That wasn't meant as an insult or a troll. Your responses--'That's your opinion derived from fake news'; 'Your "data" comes from a news channel run by socialists who hate America'--literally have no substance and come straight from Trump's playbook.

 

[jasonc]

That wasn't meant as an insult or a troll. Your responses--'That's your opinion derived from fake news'; 'Your "data" comes from a news channel run by socialists who hate America'--literally have no substance and come straight from Trump's playbook.

Antivaxxers misuse the Defense Medical Epidemiology Database to demonize COVID-19 vaccines

Over the last couple of weeks, a claim that the Defense Medical Epidemiology Database (DMED) shows that COVID-19 vaccines have caused a massive increase in cancer, neurological, and cardiovascular dis

sciencebasedmedicine.org

I got to the cancer rate debunking and seen enough .

I couldn't buy this as well my pastors wife is a pa. She would see this as she worked in an er and does physical rehab for the elderly in a nursing home
This rate of morbidity increase is not going to do be unnoticed

 

[JLB]

That wasn't meant as an insult or a troll. Your responses--'That's your opinion derived from fake news'; 'Your "data" comes from a news channel run by socialists who hate America'--literally have no substance and come straight from Trump's playbook.

Yes, I agree. The main stream media promotes a leftist, socialist narrative.



JLB

 

[JLB]

Antivaxxers misuse the Defense Medical Epidemiology Database to demonize COVID-19 vaccines

Over the last couple of weeks, a claim that the Defense Medical Epidemiology Database (DMED) shows that COVID-19 vaccines have caused a massive increase in cancer, neurological, and cardiovascular dis

sciencebasedmedicine.org

I got to the cancer rate debunking and seen enough .

I couldn't buy this as well my pastors wife is a pa. She would see this as she worked in an er and does physical rehab for the elderly in a nursing home
This rate of morbidity increase is not going to do be unnoticed

...since the COVID-19 vaccines have rolled out, there have been increases in these conditions:

• Hypertension – 2,181% increase
• Diseases of the nervous system – 1,048% increase
• Malignant neoplasms of esophagus – 894% increase
• Multiple sclerosis – 680% increase
• Malignant neoplasms of digestive organs – 624% increase
• Guillain-Barré syndrome – 551% increase
• Breast cancer – 487% increase
• Demyelinating – 487% increase
• Malignant neoplasms of thyroid and other endocrine glands – 474% increase
• Female infertility – 472% increase
• Pulmonary embolism – 468% increase
• Migraines – 452% increase
• Ovarian dysfunction – 437% increase
• Testicular cancer – 369% increase
• Tachycardia – 302% increase

WOW, great info.


Thanks for sharing.




JLB

 

[jasonc]

...since the COVID-19 vaccines have rolled out, there have been increases in these conditions:

• Hypertension – 2,181% increase
• Diseases of the nervous system – 1,048% increase
• Malignant neoplasms of esophagus – 894% increase
• Multiple sclerosis – 680% increase
• Malignant neoplasms of digestive organs – 624% increase
• Guillain-Barré syndrome – 551% increase
• Breast cancer – 487% increase
• Demyelinating – 487% increase
• Malignant neoplasms of thyroid and other endocrine glands – 474% increase
• Female infertility – 472% increase
• Pulmonary embolism – 468% increase
• Migraines – 452% increase
• Ovarian dysfunction – 437% increase
• Testicular cancer – 369% increase
• Tachycardia – 302% increase

WOW, great info.


Thanks for sharing.




JLB

Nice cherry picking ,didn't actually read the article

Covid 19 vaccine is worse then the a bomb in causing cancer .

The doctor who wrote that was an endocrinologist.his speciaity Is cancer .


It's worse then abestos and on your body and I know two who died from exposure long after the fact .

 

[JLB]

Nice cherry picking ,didn't actually read the article

Covid 19 vaccine is worse then the a bomb in causing cancer .

The doctor who wrote that was an endocrinologist.his speciaity Is cancer .


It's worse then abestos and on your body and I know two who died from exposure long after the fact .

I don’t really understand this post.


The info you provided in the link you posted is eye opening.

 

[jasonc]

I don’t really understand this post.


The info you provided in the link you posted is eye opening.

You need help the article literally says otherwise as he says people who survived Hiroshima and Nagasaki has a longer time .
It goes into how the dmed was corrected .
You simply want to see what you want

Did it occur to you that I still know and stay in contact with my old troops in the national guard .

One of them would have said something .I also know one who isn't one of mine who is drills in Polk county and went to d.c and said some things about that .
One of my old troops got cancer and lost his ability to walk .one of them is a nurse who is commissioned in the national guard and works in a medical unit up north .
These things are why I don't buy this .the guard is too small to not notice that .