Nephilim

[Sinthesis]

Sinthesis Jesus told some Pharisees that their dad was the devil but He still loved them. I don't think anyone is running around pointing out nephilim and I'm not sure if that's even possible.

Jesus was not speaking of the Pharisees' physical father(s).

 

[jasoncran]

Hey free you and synthesis obviously don't understand
Gods true word.even Goliath was a giants he was one
Of the offsprings of og giants the ones that Israel killed
And king David killed Goliath he was over 9 or ten feet tall
Normal men and women can never get that big.they
Did not have normal DNA they were hybrids.
Unholy union between Satan and his angels and flesh
Women.there is so much scripture that backs it up.

That's why you have to take words back to the Hebrew
To understand

the philistines didn't die out. we have dna from all humans who lived. its called the human genome map. all races. if the philistines had that dna it would show up. tall man disease ever heard of that?

 

[JLB]

The children of Israel were God's instrument of judgement on the various fallen peoples of the promised land. There is no scriptural need for them to be anything but human.

The bible teaches us about giants, and how they came to be.

There is only one way that giants are produced in the bible.

There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. Genesis 6:4

This scriptures shows us the following -

• The only way Giants are produced... when the sons of God came into the daughters of men and the daughters of men bore children.

• That the sons of God were not human, as they were not affected by the flood.

• The sons of God continued after the flood to produce offspring that were giants.

This is what the scripture teaches, like it or not.

I'm not going to ignore what this scripture teaches.

I'm not going to explain away what this scripture teaches.

...that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.


JLB

 

[JLB]

Sinthesis Jesus told some Pharisees that their dad was the devil but He still loved them. I don't think anyone is running around pointing out nephilim and I'm not sure if that's even possible.

Here is the balance to what you are saying -

34 "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35 For I have come to 'set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law'; 36 and 'a man's enemies will be those of his own household.' Matthew 10:34-35


JLB

 

[Sinthesis]

The bible teaches us about giants, and how they came to be.

There is only one way that giants are produced in the bible.

There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. Genesis 6:4

This scriptures shows us the following -

• The only way Giants are produced... when the sons of God came into the daughters of men and the daughters of men bore children.

• That the sons of God were not human, as they were not affected by the flood.

• The sons of God continued after the flood to produce offspring that were giants.

This is what the scripture teaches, like it or not.

I'm not going to ignore what this scripture teaches.

I'm not going to explain away what this scripture teaches.

...that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.


JLB

Isn't it amazing how people can examine the very same scripture and come to different conclusions about what it teaches? The difference is in what one wants to believe. I don't believe any group of people defined by heredity is by nature significantly more evil than any other group. However various groups defined by culture, which is often confused with heredity, may be more deceived, and the genesis of that deception has always been choosing for themselves what is good or evil based on their own selfish desires. I choose to believe it is selfish to believe my genetic heritage is somehow more pure than that of others.

 

[CHRISTIAN SOLDIER]

why is it so many people beleive only part of the Bible and not all of it.
people like [Name deleted by Staff] are selective christians. pretty sad you cant see truth.

oh well i guess God just chalks it as ignorance.
you what they say ignorance is bliss.

 

[Kathi]

This is kind of long but worth the read.
In Genesis 6:1-4, what were the identities of the sons of God and daughters of men?
In Genesis 6:1-4 is an account that refers to the sons of God and the daughters of men. Many options have been suggested regarding the identities of these individuals, leading to much speculation regarding the true nature of those involved.

Three main views have emerged regarding the identities of these sons of God. First, some argue these "sons of God" were fallen angels. Second, others believe they were people who served as powerful human rulers. Third, still others suggest these people describe the godly descendants of Seth who intermarried with the ungodly descendants of Cain.

The evidence offered to argue that these beings were fallen angels is primarily based on the grammar of the phrase "sons of God." In the Old Testament, "sons of God" elsewhere refers to angels (Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7). While this offers evidence for the "sons of God" as fallen angels, there are two main problems with this theory. First, Matthew 22:30 notes that angels do not marry. Those who argue for this position realize this but suggest Genesis 6 is different since these would be fallen angels and that Matthew 22:30 refers to marriage in heaven. Second, and a more important concern, is that just because other places in the Bible use "sons of God" to refer to angels does not require that the same usage is necessary here. The larger context must also be taken into account, a context that seems to suggest sin taking place among humans, not angels.

Another question is whether angels can even appear in human form and produce offspring. Proponents of this view cite the example of the men of Sodom and Gomorrah who wanted to have sex with the two angels who were with Lot, though such physical acts did not take place (Genesis 19:1-5). Also, an angel appeared in human form in Mark 16:5.

The second view that suggests these "sons of God" and "daughters of men" refers to relationships involving powerful human rulers fits the context. However, there remains the difficulty of how their children would become "Nephilim," a term that could mean either giants or men of old or even men of renown.

The third view suggests these "sons of God" and "daughters of men" refer to marriages between the godly family line of Seth and the ungodly family line of Cain, who had killed his brother Abel (Genesis 4). This could also fit the context, yet also does not easily account for children who would become giants or men of renown. In addition, there was never a direct command for Seth's descendants to avoid marriage with the family descendants of Cain.

Another concern is the phrase in Genesis 6:4 that, "The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown." Whoever these Nephilim were, they also continued for some time, likely after the global flood of Noah's era. In Numbers 13:33 we find: "And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them." The focus here is on the physical height of these Nephilim.

While there is no perfect scenario that accounts for all of the above factors, a case can be made for human offspring who were known for their great height (as Numbers 13:33 emphasizes). These offspring were mentioned in Genesis 6 as those who lived in sin against God while also having special physical features that were noted. This is also consistent with Numbers 13 that discusses the Nephilim as very tall people who lived in rebellion to God's ways.

Again, there appears to be no perfect explanation at present that encompasses all details of this age-old debate, yet any of these three options could encompass an explanation that served as the background to God's judgment upon the earth through a flood.

Read more: http://www.compellingtruth.org/sons-God-daughters-men.html#ixzz2uBHVTKQ2

 

[agua.]

Jesus was not speaking of the Pharisees' physical father(s).

Yes Sinthesis but my point is that the nature, physical or otherwise, should have no impact on if you love your enemy. Remember we're at war with the satanic spiritual realm.

 

[gr8grace3]

Gen 4:9-10~~Then the LORD said to Cain, "Where is Abel your brother?" And he said, "I do not know. Am I my brother's keeper?" 10He said, "What have you done? The voice of your brother's blood is crying to Me from the ground.

 

[Sparkey]

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~Moderator

 

[JLB]

Isn't it amazing how people can examine the very same scripture and come to different conclusions about what it teaches? The difference is in what one wants to believe. I don't believe any group of people defined by heredity is by nature significantly more evil than any other group. However various groups defined by culture, which is often confused with heredity, may be more deceived, and the genesis of that deception has always been choosing for themselves what is good or evil based on their own selfish desires. I choose to believe it is selfish to believe my genetic heritage is somehow more pure than that of others.

Please tell us how the sons of God survived the flood, if they were human.

 

[CHRISTIAN SOLDIER]

sons of GOD all the angels angels were created before flesh men.
sons of God came in unto the daughters of men.
that tells us that men were different from sons of God.
satan is also one of GOD'S sons.
2nd thessalonians 2:3 man of sin be revealed,the SON of perdition.
satan and his evil angels are the SONS of GOD.

thats why Bible distinguishes between sons of God and daughters of men.

 

[jasoncran]

adam is the son of god. was he an angel?

 

[Sparkey]

Jesus is the only begotten son of God - he came in the flesh, and was made "a little lower than the angels".

Please tell us how the sons of God survived the flood, if they were human.

If we are of the opinion that the term "Sons of God" is not limited to angels and may include men, the fact that the sons of Anak were mentioned in Numbers 13:33 does nothing more than suggest (to some) that they could be descendants of angels and the "daughters of men". It does not demand that conclusion. They were the sons of Anak, who himself was a man, right? (yep, that's right).

What do we know for certain? The nephilim were mighty men, men of renown. I don't think that God removed the ability to reproduce that characteristic (the ability to produce those who could be called "mighty") from our gene pool at the time of the flood. Some, who insist that theirs is the only conclusion, may want to argue that God didn't accomplish what He wanted with the Flood -- but here again, I would say that we are missing the point. The entire creation is reserved for judgment. God did not spare the angels, He did not spare the population of the earth (except for 8). He did not spare Sodom or even the wife of Lot.

Hence we too will do well to take both the mercy and the judgment of God into consideration especially in our dealings with others.

O LORD, the God who avenges, O God who avenges, shine forth. Rise up, O Judge of the earth; pay back to the proud what they deserve. How long will the wicked, O LORD, how long will the wicked be jubilant?

 

[CHRISTIAN SOLDIER]

we are all the sons of God,but those sons of God were evil.cause they were fallen angels.
it was forbidden for angels to have sexuall relations with the daughters of men.
they were supposed to be born innocent of woman just like we are,born in the flesh.
but they chose not to and left habitation in heaven and came to earth and seduced the daughters of men instead.
read jude chapter 1.you will understand. any they produced many giants on the earth as result of those unholy unions.
and they performed super amounts of abominations against the Lord and his flesh children on earth.
that why the Lord had to have the flood to destroy them,or else they would have killed off all humanity on earth.

 

[jasoncran]

we are all the sons of God,but those sons of God were evil.cause they were fallen angels.
it was forbidden for angels to have sexuall relations with the daughters of men.
they were supposed to be born innocent of woman just like we are,born in the flesh.
but they chose not to and left habitation in heaven and came to earth and seduced the daughters of men instead.
read jude chapter 1.you will understand. any they produced many giants on the earth as result of those unholy unions.
and they performed super amounts of abominations against the Lord and his flesh children on earth.
that why the Lord had to have the flood to destroy them,or else they would have killed off all humanity on earth.

what is the nephilum mentioned in the torah outside genesis 6?

 

[Sparkey]

it was forbidden for angels to have sexuall relations with the daughters of men.

It was? Where may I find that particular commandment?

it was forbidden for angels to have sexuall relations with the daughters of men.
they were supposed to be born innocent of woman just like we are,born in the flesh.
but they chose not to and left habitation in heaven

...

They (angels) were born? I don't know this. Do you have some support for this?
~Sparrowhawke

PS By the way, my question here is rhetorical - I don't expect you to be able to give scriptural support for your allegation.​

 

[CHRISTIAN SOLDIER]

the nephilim are locked in chains right now for going against the Lord.
but they are also considered the locust army of satan in revelation.
they will be returning with satan when satan will be kicked out of heaven with his
evil nephilium freinds.their true bodies are locked up in prison right now in heaven
but their evils spirits can still roam the earth.just like satans evil spirit roams the earth.

 

[reba]

the nephilim are locked in chains right now for going against the Lord.
but they are also considered the locust army of satan in revelation.
they will be returning with satan when satan will be kicked out of heaven with his
evil nephilium freinds.their true bodies are locked up in prison right now in heaven
but their evils spirits can still roam the earth.just like satans evil spirit roams the earth.

Chapter and verse for these thoughts?

 

[jasoncran]

satan had flesh? the nephilum are in chains? verses.