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origins of the pagan new year day
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Mike
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I don't relate New Years Eve/Day to anything spiritual, but I do acknowledge the event of another year passing. It's always been made much more of than it really is. We hoot and holler at a friend's house at midnight, then we pack the kids up and go home like any other night.
My life changes afterwords inasmuch as having to remember to write the correct year next to my signature on documents.
My life changes afterwords inasmuch as having to remember to write the correct year next to my signature on documents.
tim-from-pa
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My family never made much of New Year's either except to have my Nana and Pappy over, some cheese and Ring Bologna on crackers and soda. Usually as a kid I rarely made it past 10:30. It was always a "watch the ball drop" tradition, and then the usual, tired jokes such as "I did not brush my teeth since last year!" etc etc. They make more of it than it needs to be.
In my 20's, I'd maybe visit my friends but as I am older, the "kids" go out but like any other year my wife and I stay home, except to drive the "kids" from the bar and night club they were attending so they did not have to drive that way.
The article relates it to Christmas, and much like Christmas, it is no coincidence that it's near the winter solstice. That's the lowest point of the sun's declination and also "midnight" at the North Pole. Likewise, during the day they divide the day in the darkest (solstice-like) time of the day: midnight.
With the Hebrews, the day begins at sundown --- this on a yearly cycle represents when the sun is on the equator heading south, and is the same as sundown at the North Pole. It will then be night, then day. This correlates to Rosh Hoshana, the start of the (day) year.
Come on Jason we do not celebrate Janus, the god of gates, doors, and beginnings. All we celebrate is another new year as a new year of being servants of God. Christmas originally was and still is the pagan celebration of the winter solace, but we set it apart for the day Christ was born, even though he was born Sept/Oct. Even July 4th is a pagan holiday as this country was not founded on Christ, but that of a Jesuit government. Look up the origin of the word Easter and it's pagan connection, but we celebrate the resurrected Christ on that day.
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Fedusenko
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I hear what you are saying, but what does Yahweh have to say of pagantry (I made up a word)?
Yet a third of our Gregorian month's are named after other gods. That is a calendar that that man made and not the one appointed by God.
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Fedusenko
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This is true, but you must also remember that a good number were Masons.
jasoncran
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i am aware of the masonic influence.
so they also had slaves and did sin, that doesnt meant that some of them didnt want christ or didnt act in the wishes of the christian majority. i can post how the church then pushed the movement to form a theocracy then later a secular state that had morals based on the judeo-christian values.
i taught these facts in church.
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Fedusenko
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Spur of the moment thought... considering the thought.
How difficult would it be to do business without mentioning the names of pagan gods? Jasoncran, I would like your thought of this and how it pertains to the number of man.
conspiracies are only speculations, but facts are facts as I am a fact finder not a conspirator. Compare scripture with scripture for there lies the facts.
jasoncran
Member
i should do the thread on the hebrew gemetria, and for the number of man that is well kind wierd as kabbalist(where this comes from) has several number for man.if we take it your way then any christian who uses the pagan names etc is damned and unsalvable and the tribulation is upon us.
and here on the number of the beast by adam clarke, believes it to be the roman(latin church)? i dont hold to that. vic you recommended this guy.
http://studylight.org/com/acc/view.cgi?book=re&chapter=13&verse=18
666, alludes to a system used by king solomon and his means of slavery etc and doing wrong with the things given by god.
jasoncran
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sorry, i have concerns with your near kabbalistic intepretation.
the bible doesnt support your view of god in the who is jesus thread,
I'm not going to go off topic so please return to that thread and explain to me why the Bible does not support what I wrote.
jasoncran
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even the jews of today consider the YHWH and the metatron(malach YHWH) seperate beings
jesus claimed that name of being el shaddai, how could the el-shaddai be the same in spirit as the father if it is as you say
when jesus said that father glorify your name and he was answered it is glorified both and will be again.
and also cried out to the father if there be any other way , never the less let thy will be done.
he isnt three persons with a modalistic nature as you state but three co eternal, and equal in nature beings but having a hiearchy relationship the son is subbordinate to the father in "rank" and the holy spirit, yet all are equal in nature and atributes. the son and hs both submit to the father. its hard to grasp but that is what is best described and all anologies fail.
i say this as i was a former non-trinitarian.
jesus claimed that name of being el shaddai, how could the el-shaddai be the same in spirit as the father if it is as you say
when jesus said that father glorify your name and he was answered it is glorified both and will be again.
and also cried out to the father if there be any other way , never the less let thy will be done.
he isnt three persons with a modalistic nature as you state but three co eternal, and equal in nature beings but having a hiearchy relationship the son is subbordinate to the father in "rank" and the holy spirit, yet all are equal in nature and atributes. the son and hs both submit to the father. its hard to grasp but that is what is best described and all anologies fail.
i say this as i was a former non-trinitarian.
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Fedusenko
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@ Jasoncran
For the sake of understanding your last comment please a critique how I interpret you in post #18.
Fedusenko Soul and Fedusenko Body are the same being.
Fedusenko Soul is different from Fedusenko Body because it fulfills a different purpose.
Fedusenko Soul/Body does not have a Fedusenko Godhead, But YHWH Godhead has a YHWH Soul and YHWH Body.
EDIT: Furthermore, YHWH Body and YHWH Soul Obey YHWH Godhead.
EDIT: To further the analogy:
YHWH Body = Colonel
YHWH Soul = General
YHWH Godhead = Ruler
Fedusenko = Infantry
For the sake of understanding your last comment please a critique how I interpret you in post #18.
Fedusenko Soul and Fedusenko Body are the same being.
Fedusenko Soul is different from Fedusenko Body because it fulfills a different purpose.
Fedusenko Soul/Body does not have a Fedusenko Godhead, But YHWH Godhead has a YHWH Soul and YHWH Body.
EDIT: Furthermore, YHWH Body and YHWH Soul Obey YHWH Godhead.
EDIT: To further the analogy:
YHWH Body = Colonel
YHWH Soul = General
YHWH Godhead = Ruler
Fedusenko = Infantry
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