Gregg
Member
I said:
to which you replied:
I will not judge whether or not a person is born from above.
Proof of faith and having eternal life are two different matters.
It doesn't matter what I "think."
But I do know this: that everyone born from above, those who have believed into Christ . . . need to know that their eternal life in Christ is forever, and it based upon God's accomplished work in and through the LORD Jesus Christ. A believer is placed firmly into Christ upon believing in Him.
- Regarding "falling away" [αποστασία] in 2Th 2:3, I believe they are mere professors of faith and not born from above. They hovered near God and the Church, wanting to be like both, but never entering into either.
- Regarding those who "depart" [αφίστημι] from the faith in 1Tim 4:1, are those who stand away from God never having belonged to Him. They refused to believe.
- Regarding those who "depart" [αφίστημι] from the faith in 1Tim 4:1, are those who stand away from God never having belonged to Him. They refused to believe.
to which you replied:
Good. Now, do you think that a person can "show" or "prove" his faith is a "true faith" by his actions? Is this how you would interpret James 2?
I will not judge whether or not a person is born from above.
Proof of faith and having eternal life are two different matters.
It doesn't matter what I "think."
It matters what the Scriptures say, and
it matters what the individual man thinks about God.
it matters what the individual man thinks about God.
But I do know this: that everyone born from above, those who have believed into Christ . . . need to know that their eternal life in Christ is forever, and it based upon God's accomplished work in and through the LORD Jesus Christ. A believer is placed firmly into Christ upon believing in Him.