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Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
Join For His Glory for a discussion on how
https://christianforums.net/threads/a-vessel-of-honor.110278/
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Taking the time to pray? Christ is the answer in times of need
https://christianforums.net/threads/psalm-70-1-save-me-o-god-lord-help-me-now.108509/
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Depending upon the Holy Spirit for all you do?
Read through the following study by Tenchi for more on this topic
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How are famous preachers sometimes effected by sin?
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https://christianforums.net/threads/anointed-preaching-teaching.109331/#post-1912042
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Solo
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As I have taught my five sons, do not hang around those who are of bad reputation or do things not acceptable because they would be lumped in with those of ill repute whether they do the same things or not.Newkid00 said:
You have aligned yourself with an atheist and an antiChristian muslim in this thread. Do not be surprised that you experience the same consequences as they.
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I know this isn't the right thread to get started on this (maybe I'll start another in the "other religions" section). I think I knew Muslims believed all prophets to be perfect. It still suprised me to hear you say that.
You must not be going by the history of prophets as recorded in the Tanakh (Old Testament)
I gotta admit, having a person like Newkid00 is a breath of fresh air on this forum. A Christian who doesn't bash Muslims...and is genuinely curious about Islam...and doesn't take everything at face value. That's not very common here.
And deep_thinking is not anti-Christian from what I could tell of his posts. He never bashed Christianity. Can anyone give me links to him bashing it? Sure he questions it--just as many Christians question Islam. What's wrong with that?
It's funny, I thought that you would always be looked at as a brother as long as you were Christian, and bashed if you were not or suspected that you weren't. (From my experience anyways)
But it turns out...no. All you have to do is have a different view--and BAM! Down the throats you pounce--like starving tigers going for the kill.
Jesus must be so proud of you all.
And deep_thinking is not anti-Christian from what I could tell of his posts. He never bashed Christianity. Can anyone give me links to him bashing it? Sure he questions it--just as many Christians question Islam. What's wrong with that?
It's funny, I thought that you would always be looked at as a brother as long as you were Christian, and bashed if you were not or suspected that you weren't. (From my experience anyways)
But it turns out...no. All you have to do is have a different view--and BAM! Down the throats you pounce--like starving tigers going for the kill.
Jesus must be so proud of you all.
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Solo
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Who is antichrist? The Scriptures tell us:
- 18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life. 26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. 29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. 1 John 2:18-29
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. 2 John 1:7-11
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Newkid00
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@Joudie: I was thinking of leaving, but I realize not all of the members are rude(thanks again StoveBolts). So I'm staying. :-D There's an old saying, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words may never hurt me." 
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Solo
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What do you believe this verse of Scripture says:Newkid00 said:@Joudie: I was thinking of leaving, but I realize not all of the members are rude(thanks again StoveBolts). So I'm staying. :-D There's an old saying, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words may never hurt me."
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. 2 John 1:7-11
Solo said:
Solo, I know you addressed this to Newkid00, but I must add the following for those who are walking blind into traps they have no idea what they are dealing with! So in keeping with the OP of this thread....
Example: The Arab Christians of Lebanon were hospitable to those who had not Jesus Christ as their savior, and in so being, the Christian Arabs of Lebanon are now being oppressed by those they were hospitable towards! The Palestinians who are out to kill all infidels, and those who are Hezbullah are at this very day attempting to take over Lebanon so it is no longer a free state. Brigitte Gabriel knows all too well how they infiltrate and oppress. At first they give the guise of needing solace from where they came, then when they are settle in, they set out to take over.
And! Unbeknownst to far too many! they are slowly doing the very same thing in the United States! And so I concur, be very careful who you befriend! Of course we know not all muslims are out to kill all the infidels, but that doesn't mean the radical muslims aren't amongst us under the guise of being friendly! Careful discernment is vital!
Befriending or being hospitable to the enemy so as to allow them to take over and oppress you and your government is not what Jesus meant when he expressed be loving your neighbor as ye would to yourself.
Since when is it Christ-like to allow the ungodly to rule supreme over them and still say they are IN Christ like love? :o
No, we are to not associate with the wickedness of others! But we are to be an example for them to follow, in spirit.
But what about in times of war? The issues of war is not whether we totally submit to the enemy or not, but it is about standing by the Godly principals even if we called by our government in having to go to war to defend them. Radical Muslims who provoke and intend on oppression are not of a 'loving God'.
There is such a thing as a righteous war, that is, that we are called to defend Godly righteousness. Not to oppress or go about provoking attacks, but to defend against the attacks of the ungodly oppressors who come to force submission of others to their ungodly dictatorship and their god. And obtaining assistance from other nations is not wrong. However! Holy Jihad is about tyranny and provoking oppression, it is not about democracy which is a government of the people by the people, for the people. And there is a Huge difference there! War for the sake of tyranny, or war for the sake of democracyin the form of a Republic, or democratic, or Independent governing body. But Tyranny/dictatorship is not Godly, it is oppressive in itself. Does tyranny have a right to exist? I think not! Because it is oppression of a people.
Read these letters from John Jay:
John Jay on the Biblical View of War
http://www.wallbuilders.com/resources/search/detail.php?ResourceID=144
and
http://www.wallbuilders.com/resources/search/detail.php?ResourceID=96
In case there are some of you who are not familiar with who John Jay was here is a brief bio:
Founding Father John Jay (1745-1829) was appointed by President George Washington as the first Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court. In addition to serving on the Supreme Court, Jay had a very distinguished history of public service. He was a member of the Continental Congress (1774-76, 1778-79) and served as President of Congress (1778-79); he helped write the New York State constitution (1777); he authored the first manual on military discipline (1777); he served as Chief-Justice of New York Supreme Court (1777-78); he was appointed minister to Spain (1779); he signed the final peace treaty with Great Britain (1783); and he was elected as Governor of New York (1795- 1801). Jay is also famous as one of the three coauthors, along with James Madison and Alexander Hamilton, of the Federalist Papers, which were instrumental in securing the ratification of the federal Constitution. John Jay was a strong Christian, serving both as vice-president of the American Bible Society (1816-21) and its president (1821- 27), and he was a member of American Board of Commissioners for Foreign Missions. In this series of letters, John Jay expounds on the Biblical view of war.
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stovebolts
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Solo said:
First off Solo, Muslims don't disbelieve that Christ came in the flesh. If you look back in your history, you will find the why in regard to the apostles creed and why it was drawn up... It was to counter what the gnostics were saying and that, simply put... was that Christ, if fully God, could not have been flesh...
You have no right to bash another faith just because you disagree with him. It's called "Virtue"...
If we discern this correcty, the typical Islamist is peaceful. This, is what I believe Newkid and Peace4all were arguing while others were arguing against the extreemist and terrorist muslims. I would go out on a limb and say that neither Peace4all or Newkid advocate or side with the extreemist.
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Newkid00
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StoveBolts said:
You're right. I would never side with extemists. I just want peace between all religions.
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Solo
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Christ coming in the flesh is more than Jesus being flesh on this earth. Christ coming in the flesh denotes that God is come in the flesh. Muslims do not believe that Jesus is God. I have a imperative command to reveal false teachings to the body of Christ. You can believe or not believe. So far you have taken the side of the enemy on a number of issues, and I am suspect of your position in Christ Jesus. You have either bought into a lie as the Galatians were so soon removed from the truth, or you have not received the Holy Spirit at your water baptism because of a lack of belief. One or the other is true.StoveBolts said:
Muslims are unsaved, and need to be given the gospel of Jesus Christ that HE is the ONLY WAY, THE ONLY TRUTH, AND THE ONLY LIGHT IN LEADING PEOPLE INTO THE ONLY LIFE.
Peace4all is an atheist unbeliever on his way to hell, and your support of his lifestyle will only allow him to enter the gates of hell with your help.
NewKid is eating at the wrong side of the plate and devouring lies instead of devouring truth. Your compliance to his eating lies conveys much or your doctrinal stance.
Are you a born again believer, a temple of the living God, who refuses to listen to instruments while worshipping God, but allows instruments to play while a temple of God? Interesting.
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peace4all
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What a wondeful game God put us all into eh? Some people on this forum make god out to be a kid with a magnifying glass, cup of water, some sugar, and a box of ants. To those ants that do what he wants, he gives the sugar, the others he drowns or burns.
and sometimes the good ones get caught in the fire and flood too, but, ehh, when your perfect, mistakes happen right ;-)
and sometimes the good ones get caught in the fire and flood too, but, ehh, when your perfect, mistakes happen right ;-)
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Solo
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Newkid00 said:
Religions are man's attempt to reach their god, but Christianity is God reaching out to His children. Man's religions are at enmity with God.
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. James 4:4
I am an extremist for Jesus Christ. Anyone less is lukewarm or cold. Jesus will spew the lukewarm from his mouth as vomit as he would that we be hot or cold.
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Revelation 3:16
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Solo
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God's enemy has the magnifying glass, and those ants that follow into his deception and lies of sugar get tormented in flame with the their god, the enemy of Almighty God. Those ants that believe what God Almighty says will gain everlasting life with no pain, suffering, tears, sorrow, or death for eternity no matter whether they received sugar or not on this earth.peace4all said:
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Solo
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Vic C. said:
Exactly!! The last dance to bring in the New World Order with the false prophet will be the Ecumenical Buggie!
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Rick W
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boogie :-D