Poll: Is ear piercing really too 'liberal'?

[farouk]

Just to add about the spacing issue, for first timers, getting the holes exactly central on the earlobe might seem to be what is required, and this may be so, but also bear in mind that if one reserves the eventual possibility of an extra hole in one or both earlobes, then it might be sensible to consider the first set of holes being put very, very slightly forward of a central placement on the earlobe, because like this any subsequent second holes will be better aligned.

(Further two cents.')

 

[farouk]

Re: Is it supposedly 'liberal' to let your son pierce his ears?

We've had discussions about tat's before and I don't remember anyone even suggesting occult symbols in either tat's or ears.

Well, I certainly didn't hear that you were advocating anything sinful! Some people just like to find fault, put words in peoples mouth, and assume they know what the other person is REALLY saying. Personally I think these types of people have serious problems of their own and they are bullies.
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Deborah13: Yes, it hardly seems to make sense, does it? Mr vocal can certainly express his personal views and feelings, and is welcome to. I don't understand, though, any underlying logic that there may be in what he was saying, whereby even pastors' wives, grandmothers, etc, who, if they (gasp!) use the holes pierced in their ears, are supposedly and automatically indulging the flesh sinfully. If this is the sort of idea that is being advanced (and I'm not sure), then it wouldn't be very logical.

Blessings.

 

[farouk]

Re: Stud, ring or pendant in ears: which?

Yeah, I think the longer ones are nice though I do not have any due to not wanting earrings that are too heavy and because I have a fear that the earring would be ripped out and it would really hurt. The fear is probably realistic for me because animals or a baby could pull on them or I could hurt myself, after all I accidentally jabbed a pen in my eye today (thankfully I was blinking at the time).

Well she actually wants her ears pierced but has other priorities on what she currently wants to buy. One of my other sisters had one of her ears pierced when she was six but the other gun messed up and by the time she had one pierced she was too scared to have the other pierced so they let the hole close back up. I actually only got mine pierced at four because they were trying to show her it was okay, but it did not work. She still does not like the idea of getting them pierced though and earrings are not really her style anyways.

rachel:

Yes, the medium longer and half-way bigger ones, such as the Liz Clairbornes, kind of make it suitable for a bit formal occasions such as a birthday or church and can cause any simple outfit combination to be just a bit more classy, I guess.

It would suprise me, though, if Liz Clairborne brings out a line of even bigger ones, because I think the average size of pendants is getting bigger, seems to me.

Blessings.

 

[farouk]

Re: Is it supposedly 'liberal' to let your son pierce his ears?

Well, I certainly didn't hear that you were advocating anything sinful! Some people just like to find fault..

Deborah:

This thread is getting a bit long and maybe it's finishing its course, but I just wanted to add that I don't have a problem with ear piercing for men, either. It can even add a bit to a tough guy image, I guess.

questdriven is a she, of course, but your comment I think can apply to a young man who might want to do it, too.

My two cents.'

Blessings.

 

[Deborah13]

Re: Is it supposedly 'liberal' to let your son pierce his ears?

Deborah:

This thread is getting a bit long and maybe it's finishing its course, but I just wanted to add that I don't have a problem with ear piercing for men, either. It can even add a bit to a tough guy image, I guess.

questdriven is a she, of course, but your comment I think can apply to a young man who might want to do it, too.

My two cents.' Blessings.

Yes, the OP has probably been well covered and the broader view of cultural changes and religious beliefs somewhat, as well.

Maybe you could come up with another one that reaches beyond the original OP, the tattoo thread really did that, I think.

 

[Dan1966]

It was a tradition in the U.S. Navy that if a sailor survived the sinking of his ship, he wore an ear ring on his right ear. My first Maser Chief was a WWII veteran who had 5 ships sunk from under him and his right ear had 5 pierce holes.

 

[farouk]

It was a tradition in the U.S. Navy that if a sailor survived the sinking of his ship, he wore an ear ring on his right ear. My first Maser Chief was a WWII veteran who had 5 ships sunk from under him and his right ear had 5 pierce holes.

Dan1966:

Interesting.

I don't object to it at all as a custom, do you?

Blessings.

 

[farouk]

[MENTION=89910]questdriven[/MENTION]:

Do you happen to find the custom objectionable for men? (I know some people might do, I don't, and it's gotten very widespread, anyway.)

Blessings.

 

[evenifigoalone]

[MENTION=89910]questdriven[/MENTION]:

Do you happen to find the custom objectionable for men? (I know some people might do, I don't, and it's gotten very widespread, anyway.)

Blessings.

Not really. I did maybe a year ago, but some of my opinions have changed since then as I realize not all of them made sense. I even draw one of my favorite male characters with a couple earrings in one ear. (He already had them in the show he was in, but previously I would draw him without them.)

 

[farouk]

Not really. I did maybe a year ago, but some of my opinions have changed since then as I realize not all of them made sense. I even draw one of my favorite male characters with a couple earrings in one ear. (He already had them in the show he was in, but previously I would draw him without them.)

[MENTION=89910]questdriven[/MENTION] : I agree, it can be nice, can't it? for earring wearing to be identified with men, too, in the way you describe. While adults make their own decisions, I actually think if parents of an under-18 boy let him get ear piercings this can even help him with his confidence levels. So you changed your mind? so did you figure why you did? Blessings.

 

[Carolyn]

I got used to guys wearing earrings--1 or 2, either or both ears--when I taught high school in the 90s. Farouk, I am not a legalistic stick in the mud like you think, just because I am a fundie. Just because I would not have tats or want one, nor would I like one on hubby, doen't mean I don't tollerate them on other people. When I grew up the only women who had tats were in circuses. Nothing religious about my bigotry.. It is just a personal preference. I still respect the people even if I don't like their tats or large holes in their ears. I keep trying to peep through the hole. Sorry. Posts in tongues creep me out thòugh.
But I did think of the perfect tat for you, if you have room. I know you have seen it before:
"BODY PIERCING SAVED MY SÃ’UL"

 

[farouk]

I got used to guys wearing earrings--1 or 2, either or both ears--when I taught high school in the 90s. Farouk, I am not a legalistic stick in the mud like you think, just because I am a fundie. Just because I would not have tats or want one, nor would I like one on hubby, doen't mean I don't tollerate them on other people. When I grew up the only women who had tats were in circuses. Nothing religious about my bigotry.. It is just a personal preference. I still respect the people even if I don't like their tats or large holes in their ears. I keep trying to peep through the hole. Sorry. Posts in tongues creep me out thòugh.
But I did think of the perfect tat for you, if you have room. I know you have seen it before:
"BODY PIERCING SAVED MY SÃ’UL"

Carolyn:

Well, often if a young man has a stud in each ear, his mom might have at least 2 studs in each ear.

Reasonable observation? (Seeing as you are a bit of an expert as a former high school teacher... )

Blessings.

 

[Carolyn]

I should have added John 19:34 & 37 to the tat. It speaks of Jesus being pierced with a sword on the cross. But it would still be a good conversation starter: Body Piercing Saved My Soul

I bless you more
OK. may pad won't add smiles. what am I doing wrong. What do I have to repent of this time....help

 

[evenifigoalone]

@questdriven : I agree, it can be nice, can't it? for earring wearing to be identified with men, too, in the way you describe. While adults make their own decisions, I actually think if parents of an under-18 boy let him get ear piercings this can even help him with his confidence levels. So you changed your mind? so did you figure why you did? Blessings.

Just couldn't find anything actually wrong with it. It was one thing my family was always just against, no explanation being given that I can remember. I guess those who are figure that it's men dressing like women? But who is to say that earrings are for women only?

 

[farouk]

Just couldn't find anything actually wrong with it. It was one thing my family was always just against, no explanation being given that I can remember. ... But who is to say that earrings are for women only?

@questdriven : There's even Biblical symbolism for men as bondservants having an ear piercing in the Old Testament. Such conditions couldn't be replicated today, of course. But since it's there, and in a positive light, it's hard to argue against it. (In Psalm 40.6, where it says, Messianically, 'Mine ears hast thou opened', the word 'opened' there = 'digged' in Hebrew, that is, pierced, referring to the idea of the coming Messiah as a bondservant. There is a sense in which the Lord Jesus' 'form of a servant' - Philippians 2.7, was unique, and cannot be replicated either.) But again it's at the very least hard to see the thing in itself as being anything but being in neutral or postive light. Personally I think it would be far fetched to try to see men and boys' ear piercing as being some sort of fulfilment of the Old Testament practice as regards bonservants, though.

Re. the earring aspect, I guess for a mom, taking either a daughter to Claires or a piercing/tattoo parlor for the insertion of studs in her ears, or taking a son to have it done, would pretty well in both instances be somewhat benign and wholesome family events, and which would certainly be reasonably within the bounds of Romans 14's framework of Christian freedom. My two cents', anyway. (Does any of this make sense to you, questdriven?) Blessings.

 

[evenifigoalone]

[MENTION=89910]questdriven[/MENTION] : There's even Biblical symbolism for men as bondservants having an ear piercing in the Old Testament. Such conditions couldn't be replicated today, of course. But since it's there, and in a positive light, it's hard to argue against it. (In Psalm 40.6, where it says, Messianically, 'Mine ears hast thou opened', the word 'opened' there = 'digged' in Hebrew, that is, pierced, referring to the idea of the coming Messiah as a bondservant. There is a sense in which the Lord Jesus' 'form of a servant' - Philippians 2.7, was unique, and cannot be replicated either. But again it's at the very least hard to see the thing in itself as being anything but being in neutral or postive light. Personally I think it would be far fetched to try to see men and boys' ear piercing as being some sort of fulfilment of the Old Testament practice as regards bonservants, though.

Re. the earring aspect, I guess for a mom, taking either a daughter to Claires or a piercing/tattoo parlor for the insertion of studs in her ears, or taking a son to have it done, would pretty well in both instances be somewhat benign and wholesome family events, and which would certainly be reasonably within the bounds of Romans 14's framework of Christian freedom. My two cents', anyway. (Does any of this make sense to you, questdriven?) Blessings.

Yeah, makes sense.

 

[farouk]

Yeah, makes sense.

[MENTION=89910]questdriven[/MENTION] : ...and you never know what the Lord may have in store, but a young Christian woman today may well find that a Christian young man who eventually might propose to her could happen to have pierced ears (not necessarily surprising, right?) One way or another, it would be quite incidental, although nice as well. Blessings.

 

[YosefHayim]

I don't see what's so liberal about it.

this gives me good laughs though.

http://liberallogic101.com/

 

[farouk]

[MENTION=89910]questdriven[/MENTION] :

PS: just to say, in any case, not a few male Christian rock musicians also wear earrings, right? so maybe this is one way how you and other Christians have gotten used to it, as well? Blessings.

 

[evenifigoalone]

[MENTION=89910]questdriven[/MENTION] :

PS: just to say, in any case, not a few male Christian rock musicians also wear earrings, right? so maybe this is one way how you and other Christians have gotten used to it, as well? Blessings.

Yes, yes they do. I think every one of the hard rock bands I'm into, the members wear earrings, or ear stretchers, or have tattoos or something. Except maybe Disciple. So yeah. Among my family, Skillet when I first discovered them was criticized for looking "too worldly".
I guess it's partly because of things like that that my opinions started changing gradually.