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Poll: Is ear piercing really too 'liberal'?

Can an earring for a man be a positive testimony?

  • Yes, sometimes

    Votes: 4 28.6%

  • No, never

    Votes: 2 14.3%

  • Don't know

    Votes: 5 35.7%

  • Don't care

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • Total voters
    14
  • Poll closed .
questdriven said:
Yes, yes they do. I think every one of the hard rock bands I'm into, the members wear earrings, or ear stretchers, or have tattoos or something. Except maybe Disciple. So yeah. Among my family, Skillet when I first discovered them was criticized for looking "too worldly".
I guess it's partly because of things like that that my opinions started changing gradually.
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[MENTION=89910]questdriven[/MENTION] :

I see, so you do like it now?

(Or are at least neutral).

It's interesting because I think that subjectively a male musician who perfects a rigorous, rasping, hard rock type of music might well find it quite in keeping to pierce his ears as well. But really it's so widespread, including among Christian young men. All kind of subjective, but it's the pure, hope-giving message that it the central aspect.

I actually think that believers should shun wordliness, but by definition this goes to the core of the person's being, starting inwardly and working itself outwardly. Paul talks instead about being transformed according to the renewing of ones mind (Romans 12.2).

Blessings.
 
farouk said:
@questdriven :

I see, so you do like it now?

(Or are at least neutral).

It's interesting because I think that subjectively a male musician who perfects a rigorous, rasping, hard rock type of music might well find it quite in keeping to pierce his ears as well. But really it's so widespread, including among Christian young men. All kind of subjective, but it's the pure, hope-giving message that it the central aspect.

I actually think that believers should shun wordliness, but by definition this goes to the core of the person's being, starting inwardly and working itself outwardly. Paul talks instead about being transformed according to the renewing of ones mind (Romans 12.2).

Blessings.
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I actually kinda like the way the Skillet band members dress now, yeah. xD Tattoos and earrings can look good sometimes.

I just don't like how some Christians judge how worldly someone is by how they dress or look. Maybe they just like that style, is that so wrong? :shrug However, in cases where people with that style are seem as rebelling or associated with evil, in that case I'd think it best to avoid that style to avoid the appearance of evil. But that perception changes with time. I can also to some degree understanding not dressing immodestly, although there are some differing opinions there. Some consider any skirt above the knees to be immodest, and IMO that's not strictly true.
 
questdriven said:
I actually kinda like the way the Skillet band members dress now, yeah. xD Tattoos and earrings can look good sometimes.

I just don't like how some Christians judge how worldly someone is by how they dress or look. Maybe they just like that style, is that so wrong? :shrug However, in cases where people with that style are seem as rebelling or associated with evil, in that case I'd think it best to avoid that style to avoid the appearance of evil. But that perception changes with time. I can also to some degree understanding not dressing immodestly, although there are some differing opinions there. Some consider any skirt above the knees to be immodest, and IMO that's not strictly true.
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questdriven:

We can go figure: the biggest fraud in history was perpetrated by a guy who was a Sunday School teacher, as well as being an over-ambitious tycoon. Clean cut guy on the surface. But something was wrong.

You're right: it's not what's on the surface that really counts.

I would also say this: I don't think that deliberately dressing a certain way, even if the person knows s/he will offend, is good. But then there are folk who are absolutely determined to take offence at any deviation from an arbitrary, cookie cutter image of what they are determined other folk should be. So it works both ways.

If a young man knows his earrings will offend, like at a conservative church, etc., then maybe he should consider removing them at least for the duration.

Equally, responsible people in local churches can maybe usefully figure that the young people, including young men sometimes, who they profess to want to see attending church, are - some of them - likely to be wearing earrings.

Re. the hemlines that you mentioned: I guess this is another subject and not one that I'm expert at! But I would have thought it's obvious that women in business who have hems on or slightly above the knee would be widely regarded as rather normal and not at all immodest.

(Make any sense? but what do I know?)

Blessings.
 
[MENTION=90443]Carolyn[/MENTION]:

I guess that it either did not, or would not, bother you at all if your family went, or would go, though a ear piercing spree (as sometimes happens).

Blessings.
 
[MENTION=89910]questdriven[/MENTION]:

Maybe the hemlines issue that you raised would in any case provide for a 'general' or 'cultural' discussion on another thread?

Blessings.
 
farouk said:
@questdriven :

Maybe the hemlines issue that you raised would in any case provide for a 'general' or 'cultural' discussion on another thread?

Blessings.
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Probably.
I don't know that I'd know enough about it to get too involved, though. I know there are some verses that some would say indicate that dress is to be strictly knee-length at the very least, and I would argue somewhat to the contrary....but that is a discussion I'd kinda rather not get into here, I think. I'm not even fully decided myself on where the line is drawn between appropriate and not when it comes to modesty in clothing. I just know what I'm comfortable with, and what others wear is between them and God, whether I agree with it or not.
Seeing others discuss it might be a good thing, though.
 
questdriven said:
Probably.
I don't know that I'd know enough about it to get too involved, though. I know there are some verses that some would say indicate that dress is to be strictly knee-length at the very least, and I would argue somewhat to the contrary....but that is a discussion I'd kinda rather not get into here, I think. I'm not even fully decided myself on where the line is drawn between appropriate and not when it comes to modesty in clothing. I just know what I'm comfortable with, and what others wear is between them and God, whether I agree with it or not.
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@questdriven :

I guessing that in contrast for you, ear piercing, the main subject, is far more clear cut it and doesn't bother you at all.

Blessings.
 
It's a lot more simple subject. No verses against it and not many, if any, that could be argued to be against it.
 
questdriven said:
It's a lot more simple subject. No verses against it and not many, if any, that could be argued to be against it.
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questdriven:

Makes sense. And - hypothetically - going for it is a lot more simple than say, getting a tattoo would be, since once healed the rings or studs can always be removed, right?

(On the other hand, I can't see ear piercing as having nearly as big a witness potential as a faith tattoo design.)

Blessings.
 
PS: [MENTION=89910]questdriven[/MENTION] :

I see that Dawn Michele of Fireflight now sports a nose stud. (Off topic here? :))

Blessings.
 
PS: This is a bit old, but relevantly at this time of the year plugs make appreciated Christmas gifts, for those with enlargements. (Some plugs look like simple studs, but have large backs to them for the enlarged holes.)

Anyone given/ received plugs lately?

Blessings.
 
So, in terms of new year's resolutions, does getting earring holes pierced suggest a resolution to achieve in 2014? or a resolution to avoid doing? :)

Just wondered....

Blessings.
 
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