Pre-Trib, Post-Trib, or Two Tribs?

[jasoncran]

if christ came in ad 70. where is he now?

 

[warhorse]

if christ came in ad 70. where is he now?

playing pool with elvis i suppose, lol

 

[jasoncran]

and "they" say that the tribbers say christ comes twice.

the removal imho is for the church to be out of the way when God judges the entire earth for her sins against him.

 

[Hitch]

if christ came in ad 70. where is he now?

Same place he went after going down to Egypt.

 

[Hitch]

I dont run in those circles
Postmillennialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So as far as you can tell no one has ever used your term,' post millennial kingdom'.


No surprise.

 

[jasoncran]

Same place he went after going down to Egypt.

ok, give me the spatial grid coordinates in the current time space continium.

when did this happen, behold i come to give all men the reward of their works whether good or evil? ad 70?

 

[Hitch]

ok, give me the spatial grid coordinates in the current time space continium.

Ok give me the ones for Calvary, that action required his physical presence so since you brought up the spatial grid coordinates in the current time space continium. it should be easy for you to answer specifically.

when did this happen, behold i come to give all men the reward of their works whether good or evil? ad 70?

Ahhh gee since the events of ad 70 are generally agreed to be the 'Days of Vengeance' I suggest you look up a definition of vengeance and that will answer your question.

 

[jasoncran]

Ok give me the ones for Calvary, Ahhh gee since the events of ad 70 are generally agreed to be the 'Days of Vengeance' I suggest you look up a definition of vengeance and that will answer your question.

good i dont have be a christian anymore. i can go back to being a man lover and women lover and not have to crucify the flesh.

he didnt raise from the dead.

uh, judgment and his return is the same really? all means only in jerusalem. whew the gentiles are safe! he hasnt judged the dead has he? that is that last part on revalation where the end of mans rule on the earth and men are judged part that you and stormcrow missed.

revalation 21:22

And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

revalation 20:13

13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works

this has happened????

 

[Hitch]

good i dont have be a christian anymore. i can go back to being a man lover and women lover and not have to crucify the flesh.

he didnt raise from the dead.

uh, judgment and his return is the same really? all means only in jerusalem. whew the gentiles are safe! he hasnt judged the dead has he? that is that last part on revalation where the end of mans rule on the earth and men are judged part that you and stormcrow missed.

revalation 21:22

And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

revalation 20:13

13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works

this has happened????

Originally Posted by jasoncran
ok, give me the spatial grid coordinates in the current time space continium.

Ok give me the ones for Calvary, that action required his physical presence so since you brought up the spatial grid coordinates in the current time space continium. it should be easy for you to answer specifically.

 

[Hitch]

good i dont have be a christian anymore. i can go back to being a man lover and women lover and not have to crucify the flesh.

That is up to you, but frankly Im sick of you glorying in you sordid past every chance you get.

he didnt raise from the dead.

uh, judgment and his return is the same really? all means only in jerusalem. whew the gentiles are safe! he hasnt judged the dead has he? that is that last part on revalation where the end of mans rule on the earth and men are judged part that you and stormcrow missed.

revalation 21:22

And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

revalation 20:13

13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works

this has happened????

 

[jasoncran]

Ok give me the ones for Calvary, that action required his physical presence so since you brought up the spatial grid coordinates in the current time space continium. it should be easy for you to answer specifically.

ok i asked you to do that, i know where he is, it aint on the cross, you appear to claim that jesus has come and wont ever return. thus revalation is a historical book. theres no need to repent as this is what God wanted.

is jesus going to return? i say yes, what say you. the context of come quickly lord was in context of the whole book or revalation to include the FINAL JUDGMENT OF MAN! THAT IS WHAT JOHN MEANT WHEN HE SAID EVEN SO COME.
revalation 22

11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. in my bible that in red


and john


20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

so that cant have happened hitch.

 

[jasoncran]

i dont for the record glorify in my past. in fact, theres some of it that i block out at times and the holy spirit forces me to relive so that i might be healed.

that has happened a time or two. i said that to make a point hitch. revalation isnt just about ad 70. and you know it. i made it clear a few pages ago on the last verses of that book and posted it again to show context.

 

[Lehigh3]

The last hour was upon them. That is why John was told to let who was "unjust & filthy" remain so.

Otherwise, God would have told John to try to "save them" But no, the judgment was at hand, & the wicked God would & did judge.

No more general judgment day. God judges every day now between good & evil. Some mens sins are obvious now & some follow them later. But that is God's sovereign decision, about the degree of punishment anyone faces- now or later.

Just my humble (yet educated) 2 cent.

 

[jasoncran]

The last hour was upon them. That is why John was told to let who was "unjust & filthy" remain so.

Otherwise, God would have told John to try to "save them" But no, the judgment was at hand, & the wicked God would & did judge.

uh we after that time. sin isnt done away with nor is satan gone.

i will take the stance of hitch on satan. the church is still holding him bound and also death is still here. where is the resurected saints. i dont see paul, or the apostles on the earth. so that refutes what you say.

satan is restrained but not totally imho. i see more and more christians sounding like the world, today in my church a pro christian mag had new age /eastern thought advice on dealing with stress and immune system strengthening!

 

[Hitch]

ok i asked you to do that, i know where he is, it aint on the cross, you appear to claim that jesus has come and wont ever return.

ACTUALLY IVE OFTEN AND OPENLY STATED THE OPPOSITE YOU ARE PLAYING YOU DISGUSTING GAMES AND WAVING YOUR FILTHY UNDERWEAR AND I DONT BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT THIS FORUM'S PURPOSE IS

. thus revalation is a historical book. theres no need to repent as this is what God wanted.

is jesus going to return? i say yes, what say you. the context of come quickly lord was in context of the whole book or revalation to include the FINAL JUDGMENT OF MAN! THAT IS WHAT JOHN MEANT WHEN HE SAID EVEN SO COME.
revalation 22

11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. in my bible that in red


and john


20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

so that cant have happened hitch.

 

[Hitch]

ok i asked you to do that, i know where he is, it aint on the cross, you appear to claim that jesus has come and wont ever return. thus revalation is a historical book. theres no need to repent as this is what God wanted.

SO SMARY T GUY YOU CANT ANSWER IN THE SAME MANNER YOU DEMANDED OF ME NOW THATS A SURPRISE. LOL

is jesus going to return? i say yes, what say you. the context of come quickly lord was in context of the whole book or revalation to include the FINAL JUDGMENT OF MAN! THAT IS WHAT JOHN MEANT WHEN HE SAID EVEN SO COME.
revalation 22

11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. in my bible that in red


and john


20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

so that cant have happened hitch.

 

[jasoncran]

SO SMARY T GUY YOU CANT ANSWER IN THE SAME MANNER YOU DEMANDED OF ME NOW THATS A SURPRISE. LOL

i guess thats a no, he hasnt returned. so therefore you either dont know and must act like this, sadly

or that the book of revalation is just about 70 ad alone. and i take this to be correct given i prefer not to call you a full preterists since i ALREADY KNEW THE ANSWER. WHY did i ask you state this again, because it was apparent a confusion on my part on why you would agree that jesus comes again.

and to answer you he isnt on the earth and hasnt been since the ascencsion 40 days from the time of the cross.

acts 1:8 hasnt been fulfilled in like manner he hasnt come back.

 

[Lehigh3]

uh we after that time. sin isnt done away with nor is satan gone.

i will take the stance of hitch on satan. the church is still holding him bound and also death is still here. where is the resurected saints. i dont see paul, or the apostles on the earth. so that refutes what you say.

satan is restrained but not totally imho. i see more and more christians sounding like the world, today in my church a pro christian mag had new age /eastern thought advice on dealing with stress and immune system strengthening!

"The church is holding satan bound?" Really? I think satan's influence of evil shouldn't even affect the church! God's children had satan crushed under their feet a long time ago!
Whether satan's influence is more active in the heathen- I will say yes to that. But not satan as a being himself. The kingdom of darkness just has no light & life - so without the protection of Christ's blood covering- the faithless are still subject to the consequences of sin - & of course we (all mankind) are capable of creating our own evil bc of free will.

Christians aren't sounding more like the world, Jason- the church, if you notice lost much of its charismatic gifts throughout the centuries. Why? I believe bc of religious dogmas & differences. The Holy Spirit being so divided into denominations & differences in doctrines & theologies- how could He not be "grieved" from all of that dissension by now?

 

[jasoncran]

"The church is holding satan bound?" Really? I think satan's influence of evil shouldn't even affect the church! God's children had satan crushed under their feet a long time ago!
Whether satan's influence is more active in the heathen- I will say yes to that. But not satan as a being himself. The kingdom of darkness just has no light & life - so without the protection of Christ's blood covering- the faithless are still subject to the consequences of sin - & of course we (all mankind) are capable of creating our own evil bc of free will.

Christians aren't sounding more like the world, Jason- the church, if you notice lost much of its charismatic gifts throughout the centuries. Why? I believe bc of religious dogmas & differences. The Holy Spirit being so divided into denominations & differences in doctrines & theologies- how could He not be "grieved" from all of that dissension by now?

uh, why then do more does christian america is turning away from God?

so satan cant attack god's kid. i know that to be false, when i was into porn any time i stated i'm done that day some girl would wear half of nothing or some coworker would have a porn mag and just so happen to walk by.

florida is very consertive and even here i hear that we should just let gays adopt and etc amongst some churches that a few yrs ago were stauch fundie churches! those have split. so theres no breaking away. and you are wrong on the pentacostal thing. i am pentacostal. that isnt bound to a church , i went to christian and missionary alliance church and some members would praise god in the spirit.

yes satan may not have the elect but they do have TO PUT ON THE WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD TO FIGHT HIM OFF.

 

[Sam21]

uh, why then do more does christian america is turning away from God?

so satan cant attack god's kid. i know that to be false, when i was into porn any time i stated i'm done that day some girl would wear half of nothing or some coworker would have a porn mag and just so happen to walk by.

florida is very consertive and even here i hear that we should just let gays adopt and etc amongst some churches that a few yrs ago were stauch fundie churches! those have split. so theres no breaking away. and you are wrong on the pentacostal thing. i am pentacostal. that isnt bound to a church , i went to christian and missionary alliance church and some members would praise god in the spirit.

yes satan may not have the elect but they do have TO PUT ON THE WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD TO FIGHT HIM OFF.

Satan CAN be bound by a christian,however satan is NOT bound. Since I have been in this forum I have watched satan romp and stomp all over people claiming to be christian. What was the first act of satan against mankind? To seperate man from the truth of the word of God! I have read post after post of the most outlandish distortions of what God is saying through His word...and most of the people doing the distortions are claiming that satan is bound...ha,ha,heh, that is rich(really very poor).