question for all christians

[jasoncran]

when was hebrews written and some say that paul didnt write hebrews. the author isnt listed, but it has a pauline style.

Paul is accredited for writing Hebrews, but in reality it does not matter, because the message is ultimately from God and the meaning is still the same

not if it was written after the destruction of jersusalem

 

[Cornelius]

when was hebrews written and some say that paul didnt write hebrews. the author isnt listed, but it has a pauline style.

Paul is accredited for writing Hebrews, but in reality it does not matter, because the message is ultimately from God and the meaning is still the same

not if it was written after the destruction of jersusalem

Brother , this is pointless . If there is something that is bothering you about what is written, then you should pray about it. God always answers if we ask Him about His Word.

blessings
C

 

[jasoncran]

not really, it changes the latter day rain to then and now which is my point.

 

[Cornelius]

not really, it changes the latter day rain to then and now which is my point.

That would be so sad, don't you think ? If this is it. If this is the final experience for Christian. Always defeated, even by the common cold. No power in their words. Kind of makes you wonder if it is all real then.

But praise God it is not. You should be glad it is not, because you too are suppose to receive it. God will not miss you , if you want this too. The fullness of Jesus is coming to Christians. Why is that something that Christians find depressing ? Why do they not jump for joy ? I really do not understand.

Whenever somebody speaks of this fullness of Christ, Christians seem to go into a slump as to say " Oh dear, please, not that " Its like they cannot handle the thought of Jesus manifesting in them .

I praise God for, because I need it. I cannot wait for the time to come when I can shake off the curse in total manifestation.

 

[jasoncran]

you are neglecting the great judgment that is with that joel 2:28 verse, the sun and the moon turning dark and then red. that's in the revalation when the star wormwood hits the earth.many of the lost will go to hell, sadly that day.

 

[Cornelius]

Yes, Wormwood is almost here brother.

 

[glorydaz]

not really, it changes the latter day rain to then and now which is my point.

That would be so sad, don't you think ? If this is it. If this is the final experience for Christian. Always defeated, even by the common cold. No power in their words. Kind of makes you wonder if it is all real then.

But praise God it is not. You should be glad it is not, because you too are suppose to receive it. God will not miss you , if you want this too. The fullness of Jesus is coming to Christians. Why is that something that Christians find depressing ? Why do they not jump for joy ? I really do not understand.

Whenever somebody speaks of this fullness of Christ, Christians seem to go into a slump as to say " Oh dear, please, not that " Its like they cannot handle the thought of Jesus manifesting in them .

I praise God for, because I need it. I cannot wait for the time to come when I can shake off the curse in total manifestation.

Wow...I certainly don't see the believer as always defeated...the common cold doesn't defeat me, nor does anything else that comes my way. I find great joy in any and all adversities the Lord deems should come my way because He is always right beside me. There may be a greater joy awaiting me in heaven, but I love every single minute of the life the Lord gives me now. The weaker I am, the stronger He is. The more trials that come my way, the greater my love for Him becomes. His yoke is easy and His burden is light....I have to admit, I don't know where you're coming from with this kind of talk, brother.

 

[Cornelius]

I am happy that you are enjoying your colds brother

I use the stripes of Jesus and I conquer mine. I really cannot remember when last I had one. I give God all the glory, because its nothing that I did or do. He did it all at the cross.

 

[glorydaz]

I am happy that you are enjoying your colds brother

I use the stripes of Jesus and I conquer mine. I really cannot remember when last I had one. I give God all the glory, because its nothing that I did or do. He did it all at the cross.

LOL...I'm happy you think you are weller than I am.

Actually, I rarely get sick...I have a very hearty constitution, but I don't judge those who do manage to catch every bug that comes along. Nor do I judge the child who gets Lukemia or is autistic. I realize Jesus' stripe was for our transgression, and our healings are because of His mercy. I'd be careful, if I were you, of boasting over something that was never promised nor atoned for on the cross. Atonement is for sin...that's a fundamental truth. Perhaps you should look into that from a scriptural perspective.

 

[jasoncran]

i recall that you had a heart condition for yrs, cornelius.

and one other that you had for long time.

i'm glad that you got you healings but in the end this body of death will be done away with.thus we all have the victory.

 

[Cornelius]

i recall that you had a heart condition for yrs, cornelius.

and one other that you had for long time.

i'm glad that you got you healings but in the end this body of death will be done away with.thus we all have the victory.

I have had a heart condition for a month . I never said we cannot get sick. I AM saying that God will heal those who trust in His promises. When I became sick, I read up on it and that condition does not get cured, because its not a germ or virus. Its a lifestyle condition. Something that can become better after about one year of therapy. After prayer and confessing the truth to people aloud, that I have been healed by the stripes of Jesus, I was healed. No more problems. My heart is now perfect.

God even went further than what I prayed for ! In the past, when I had as much as two glasses of wine, I would wake up at 3am and my heart would be racing. Well, no more of that as well too, praise God.. God touched my heart in such a way that it has perfect rhythm now.


We have victory now. We do not have to wait until this body is done away. I live this reality, I am not speaking of something that I only post about in words. This is my and many other's reality in this life, here and now.

 

[Cornelius]

I am happy that you are enjoying your colds brother

I use the stripes of Jesus and I conquer mine. I really cannot remember when last I had one. I give God all the glory, because its nothing that I did or do. He did it all at the cross.

LOL...I'm happy you think you are weller than I am.

Actually, I rarely get sick...I have a very hearty constitution, but I don't judge those who do manage to catch every bug that comes along. Nor do I judge the child who gets Lukemia or is autistic. I realize Jesus' stripe was for our transgression, and our healings are because of His mercy. I'd be careful, if I were you, of boasting over something that was never promised nor atoned for on the cross. Atonement is for sin...that's a fundamental truth. Perhaps you should look into that from a scriptural perspective.

Neither do I judge anybody. But I will boast in the Lord, because His salvation was complete.

Here is a dear sister's report of how God healed her autistic son. April walked the walk of faith and today have the result of that. A completely healed son, through the stripes of Jesus.

http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.or ... tism-april

 

[Cornelius]

Here is little bit of the final testimony for those who do not want to read the link:

So that's what happened. At that moment the Lord gave me an indescribable joy and a peace. I was dancing, singing, and praising Him in my living room! I was so excited I barely slept for the whole night. I learned later that Bill had a vision of demons leaving my son as he drove home that night!

The Results
May 3, 2007- It is apparent to me that Sasha's healing has accelerated dramatically. Within a few days it is clear that manifestly Sasha is healed and delivered from autism.

Specifically I notice:

-BIG improvements in language. He is using complete sentences with proper syntax.
-BIG improvement in mood. His expression is happy and clear.
-Social skills: Sasha is very cheerful and plays cooperatively with his siblings. He is engaged in appropriate play, including pretend play, reading and coloring. He shows me things that he is doing and asks me to participate with him.
-Self help -- no potty accidents since. I had been potty training him for 2 years with many, many accidents.
-Gets dressed by himself.
-Food intolerances to dairy and gluten are gone.
-Temper tantrums are gone. Rage is gone. We are trying new foods.
-In addition, Sasha reads, writes and cuts with scissors well. He likes to ride his bike with his brother Jonah and was learning to hit a tennis ball with his dad a few days ago. I do not have to make any adjustment for his learning style or character. He will clean up and participate with chores when asked. He is obedient to his parents.

My son no longer fits the criteria for diagnosis of autism, PDD or any disorder on the autism spectrum. This healing and deliverance was done by Jesus and no man or method can take credit for it. He is set free by the blood of Jesus! The gratitude and joy I feel is hard to express. I just want to sing songs to God all day long. Thank you Lord!!!

It's not by might, or by power, but by My Spirit says the Lord! (John 9:2-3)... his disciples asked him, saying, `Rabbi, who did sin, this one or his parents, that he should be born blind? Jesus answered, `Neither did this one sin nor his parents, but that the works of God may be manifested in him.

(1 Peter 2:24) who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness--by whose stripes you were healed.

(Matt 9:28) And when He had come into the house, the blind men came to Him. And Jesus said to them, "Do you believe that I am able to do this?" They said to Him, "Yes, Lord."

Amen, ultimately these healings bring glory to God only, because no man had anything to do with it. The glory goes to where it belongs: To God !

In any other way, man still gets some glory, but not when only God has been trusted through His Word. What a glorious God we serve !

 

[Mysteryman]

I am happy that you are enjoying your colds brother

I use the stripes of Jesus and I conquer mine. I really cannot remember when last I had one. I give God all the glory, because its nothing that I did or do. He did it all at the cross.

LOL...I'm happy you think you are weller than I am.

Actually, I rarely get sick...I have a very hearty constitution, but I don't judge those who do manage to catch every bug that comes along. Nor do I judge the child who gets Lukemia or is autistic. I realize Jesus' stripe was for our transgression, and our healings are because of His mercy. I'd be careful, if I were you, of boasting over something that was never promised nor atoned for on the cross. Atonement is for sin...that's a fundamental truth. Perhaps you should look into that from a scriptural perspective.

Neither do I judge anybody. But I will boast in the Lord, because His salvation was complete.

Here is a dear sister's report of how God healed her autistic son. April walked the walk of faith and today have the result of that. A completely healed son, through the stripes of Jesus.

http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.or ... tism-april

Hi C.

Why do people like yourself bring these kinds of healings to other people here on the internet ?

What are you trying to prove ?

Do you not know, that if they did happen, praise God, right ? But why tell us about them ? We do not know these people, and we do not even know if what you are telling us is true or not.

For all we know , this could be just a hoax, or a false example.

This is not the way in which to prove God. In fact, it is the wrong way ! Where are the witnesses ? And even if you bring witnesses, this is just the internet. For all I know they again are nothing but false witnesses. We don't know these people and we don't know the circumstances .

I believe God heals, because the Word tells us that God heals. I also believe that there is a time table by which God uses for healing. Some people will remain sick or injured in some way for a period of time, or forever. That is because God does not heal all people, all the time. An individual believer can claim healing, but only if it is available , because it has to be according to the will of God .

Way too many people make claims that they can just believe and be healed. This is false ! We first should be asking for prayer of healing. God can heal when and whereever he pleases. Even without one being prayed over. However, most of the time, God wants others to pray for those who are sick or injured.

So don't you think it is about time you stop giving us these testimonies of healings from people we don't even know ? You might know these people, but we don't ! ! And if you don't know these people, then you can just as easily be deceived into believing a hoax .

 

[Cornelius]

Hi C.

Why do people like yourself bring these kinds of healings to other people here on the internet ?

What are you trying to prove ?

Do you not know, that if they did happen, praise God, right ? But why tell us about them ? We do not know these people, and we do not even know if what you are telling us is true or not.

For all we know , this could be just a hoax, or a false example.

This is not the way in which to prove God. In fact, it is the wrong way ! Where are the witnesses ? And even if you bring witnesses, this is just the internet. For all I know they again are nothing but false witnesses. We don't know these people and we don't know the circumstances .

I believe God heals, because the Word tells us that God heals. I also believe that there is a time table by which God uses for healing. Some people will remain sick or injured in some way for a period of time, or forever. That is because God does not heal all people, all the time. An individual believer can claim healing, but only if it is available , because it has to be according to the will of God .

Way too many people make claims that they can just believe and be healed. This is false ! We first should be asking for prayer of healing. God can heal when and whereever he pleases. Even without one being prayed over. However, most of the time, God wants others to pray for those who are sick or injured.

So don't you think it is about time you stop giving us these testimonies of healings from people we don't even know ? You might know these people, but we don't ! ! And if you don't know these people, then you can just as easily be deceived into believing a hoax .

Boy oh boy, but you are a contentious person are you not.

Pro 26:21 As coals are to hot embers, and wood to fire, So is a contentious man to inflame strife.

 

[Cornelius]

Rom 13:13 Let us walk becomingly, as in the day; not in revelling and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and jealousy.

 

[Mysteryman]

Rom 13:13 Let us walk becomingly, as in the day; not in revelling and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and jealousy.

Well Cornelius, if your are drinking too much, then just stop and then you will have more peace in your life. :yes

If you need prayer, I would be glad to pray for you .

 

[Cornelius]

Rom 13:13 Let us walk becomingly, as in the day; not in revelling and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and jealousy.

Well Cornelius, if your are drinking too much, then just stop and then you will have more peace in your life. :yes

If you need prayer, I would be glad to pray for you .

Be blessed brother.

 

[Free]

Keep this thread on topic and address the arguments. Any further posting against persons will result in warnings and this thread being locked. It seems to have run it's course anyway.

 

[faithtransforms]

Well, whatever is not of faith is sin.
Breaking God's law, rebellion against God, and falling short is sin.
(I believe Heb. says rejecting God is willful sin.)
The only sin that isn't covered at the cross is rejection of our Lord and Savior (unbelief).

I'm sure happy Jesus defeated sin at the cross, because otherwise we'd all earn our wages of death.

Oh, and love covers a multitude of sins...so it would be wise to love your neighbor. :yes

That said, we are called to liberty, being freed from the law of sin and death, so I believe the only "sin" a Christian can commit is rebellion (walking in disobedience), and that, by the way, is always willful. We don't have to disobey. We know we shouldn't commit adultery, lie, cheat, steal, so if we do such things, we're in rebellion. It comes down to our motives and our heart attitude. I've found the older I get, knowing God is faithful to make my life miserable when I don't do what I should, or when I do something I know I shouldn't, I'm inclined to just obey...out of fear of the repercussions.
(That should set a lot of people off)... :biglaugh

Seriously, don't we all desire to please Him? He is so worthy. I honestly believe our hearts are programmed to be pleasing in His sight.

I don't believe when I react in the flesh when I smash my thumb with a hammer it's sin (since it isn't rebellion....although it certainly is falling short of the glory of God. I'm still in the flesh and until we receive our glorified body we'll be subject to reacting under certain circumstances. But when the Lord puts it on my heart to speak a word of encouragement to that annoying lady across the street, and I put it off, then I'm in rebellion against God. I have no peace until I have set things right.

Now here I am rambling ...boring all my friends so I'll just say goodnight. Good topic, though, Jason. I hope we can all remember to show some love for our brothers and sisters in the Lord as we discuss the Word.

I know this is an old thread, but I love your thinking on this glorydaz. That's pretty much exactly how I feel, every word of it