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[__ Prayer __] Revival is breaking out !

Here are 5 wrong ways to respond to Asbury:

1. Responding with carnal curiosity:

Are you a revival, prophetic, or deliverance junkie? Do you binge on emotional events? Do you go with the latest buzz? If so, then consider staying away. You will do more harm than good.

Go because you are under conviction, ready to repent in the awe-inspiring presence of God. Go determined to return a changed person who can spread revival where you live. Don’t go to get a cheap blessing.


2. Responding with doubt that it is a real revival.

If the first thing out of your mouth about Asbury was something like, “If this was a real revival, they wouldn’t sing those kind of worship choruses, or use that translation of the Bible,” you are reacting, but not discerning.

All revivals come to us through imperfect human beings. In many cases, God seizes human frailties for His glory. The Bible says, “We have this treasure in earthen vessels.”

Andrew Murray had a great church in Cape Town, South Africa. He left it the hands of others during a sabbatical in England. He returned one Saturday evening to find the church house full of people wailing before God. He charged in and broke up the meeting, rebuking them for their “emotionalism.” But when he stepped out of the church, he saw his father standing there weeping. His father said, “How dare you stop something that I have prayed to happen for 30 years.”

This rebuke cut so deep that Andrew refused to preach for months. He sat in the back of the church, repentant and contrite. Finally, on one Sunday morning, the elders physically picked him up and carried him into the pulpit. Then the fire that had begun during that Saturday night prayer meeting hit him. That awakening won 5,000,000 Africans to Jesus.

3. A response of jealousy by the old school:

Another irony of revival is the fact that those who were in the last revival are the first to have a bad spirit toward the new one. Jealous, perhaps, because they assumed that if God ever did it again, it would once again be through them.

John Wesley was defrocked by the Church of England because he preached outdoors instead of in a church building. The result was the Methodist revival that spread to five continents.

Decades later, the Methodist church moved to remove the ordination of two of their firebrands: William and Catherine Booth. You guessed it—they were preaching outdoors. Thus, the Salvation Army was born.

4. A response of arrogance by the new school.

It was Finney who observed that revivals die, both because of the bad spirit of the old school, and the arrogant spirit of the new school.

We have heard much about how there is no big-time preacher or leader of this miracle at Asbury. But I disagree, there are leaders. They may not be big names, but they are leading this revival. If there were no decision makers, there would just be chaos.

Whoever they are, they must stay pure in the insane glare of media attention.

Though they may be totally new to revival, they will be asked to do interviews and will be treated like experts. The pull toward arrogance is the devil’s favorite weapon. It is lethal, sudden, and arrives early.

They must shed the title of ‘expert’. They must not feel superior to any who have gone before them. This miracle is not an endorsement of their talent or spiritual depth. This is the result of a God of love, desperate to save, and has found an available core.

5. The response of being hurt.

A minister who has labored for decades with scant results can feel hurt, even dismayed, when any event flies from obscurity to worldwide acclaim in just a matter of days.

A preacher can feel like the Psalmist who said in Psalm 73:13-14, “Surely, I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocence. For all day long I have been plagued, and chastened every morning.”

For this hurt, there is great healing and encouragement. There is an old saying, “The rising tide lifts all boats.” Revival is that rising tide. It is not important where the awakening begins, because it will ultimately raise the tide of power and the effectiveness of all ministries and churches. That means that any victory in Christendom is our victory.

But revival does not just lift all boats, it brings them together in unity. Peter obeyed Jesus and cast the net into the water in Luke 5. Here’s what happened next:

“And when they had done this, they caught a great number of fish, and their net was breaking. So, they signaled to their partners in the other boat to come and help them. And they came and filled both the boats, so that they began to sink” (Luke 5:6-7).

Revival will bring the boats together in unity, and a massive number of souls into the Kingdom.

Rejoice my brother! Rejoice my sister! You belong to a victorious army, and our side has just won a massive victory!

Our Father in heaven, we pray for this mighty miracle at Asbury University. Place your hand of protection on it and overshadow it. Take it to its full potential. Let us not do anything to tarnish the simple and innocent work You are doing. We ask all of this in the Name of Jesus. Amen.​

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Who says that that has posted ?

From personal experience locally .

If a 1000 repent and don't have a home church and all you see is them doing that and they never attend a church .was it real ?

If the sermon doesn't even mention the judgement .revivals include sermons and not just prayers and worship .

As stated earlier .these if not or probably mentored with think they will have to experience full fledge emotional highs.

Sometimes the walk is sorry upon sorry and you simply being held and carried by God .

I personally know two pentacostal saints who lost children and grandchildren.

I bet the parents wept for a season .asking God why ? This hurts .I bet they think of them on their birthdays and whenever
 
And I hope your right .

Locally the umc here all of the state ones have broke away from the unc over the umc on gay marriage issue .
 

Here are 5 wrong ways to respond to Asbury:

1. Responding with carnal curiosity:

Are you a revival, prophetic, or deliverance junkie? Do you binge on emotional events? Do you go with the latest buzz? If so, then consider staying away. You will do more harm than good.

Go because you are under conviction, ready to repent in the awe-inspiring presence of God. Go determined to return a changed person who can spread revival where you live. Don’t go to get a cheap blessing.


2. Responding with doubt that it is a real revival.

If the first thing out of your mouth about Asbury was something like, “If this was a real revival, they wouldn’t sing those kind of worship choruses, or use that translation of the Bible,” you are reacting, but not discerning.

All revivals come to us through imperfect human beings. In many cases, God seizes human frailties for His glory. The Bible says, “We have this treasure in earthen vessels.”

Andrew Murray had a great church in Cape Town, South Africa. He left it the hands of others during a sabbatical in England. He returned one Saturday evening to find the church house full of people wailing before God. He charged in and broke up the meeting, rebuking them for their “emotionalism.” But when he stepped out of the church, he saw his father standing there weeping. His father said, “How dare you stop something that I have prayed to happen for 30 years.”

This rebuke cut so deep that Andrew refused to preach for months. He sat in the back of the church, repentant and contrite. Finally, on one Sunday morning, the elders physically picked him up and carried him into the pulpit. Then the fire that had begun during that Saturday night prayer meeting hit him. That awakening won 5,000,000 Africans to Jesus.

3. A response of jealousy by the old school:

Another irony of revival is the fact that those who were in the last revival are the first to have a bad spirit toward the new one. Jealous, perhaps, because they assumed that if God ever did it again, it would once again be through them.

John Wesley was defrocked by the Church of England because he preached outdoors instead of in a church building. The result was the Methodist revival that spread to five continents.

Decades later, the Methodist church moved to remove the ordination of two of their firebrands: William and Catherine Booth. You guessed it—they were preaching outdoors. Thus, the Salvation Army was born.

4. A response of arrogance by the new school.

It was Finney who observed that revivals die, both because of the bad spirit of the old school, and the arrogant spirit of the new school.

We have heard much about how there is no big-time preacher or leader of this miracle at Asbury. But I disagree, there are leaders. They may not be big names, but they are leading this revival. If there were no decision makers, there would just be chaos.

Whoever they are, they must stay pure in the insane glare of media attention.

Though they may be totally new to revival, they will be asked to do interviews and will be treated like experts. The pull toward arrogance is the devil’s favorite weapon. It is lethal, sudden, and arrives early.

They must shed the title of ‘expert’. They must not feel superior to any who have gone before them. This miracle is not an endorsement of their talent or spiritual depth. This is the result of a God of love, desperate to save, and has found an available core.

5. The response of being hurt.

A minister who has labored for decades with scant results can feel hurt, even dismayed, when any event flies from obscurity to worldwide acclaim in just a matter of days.

A preacher can feel like the Psalmist who said in Psalm 73:13-14, “Surely, I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocence. For all day long I have been plagued, and chastened every morning.”

For this hurt, there is great healing and encouragement. There is an old saying, “The rising tide lifts all boats.” Revival is that rising tide. It is not important where the awakening begins, because it will ultimately raise the tide of power and the effectiveness of all ministries and churches. That means that any victory in Christendom is our victory.

But revival does not just lift all boats, it brings them together in unity. Peter obeyed Jesus and cast the net into the water in Luke 5. Here’s what happened next:

“And when they had done this, they caught a great number of fish, and their net was breaking. So, they signaled to their partners in the other boat to come and help them. And they came and filled both the boats, so that they began to sink” (Luke 5:6-7).

Revival will bring the boats together in unity, and a massive number of souls into the Kingdom.

Rejoice my brother! Rejoice my sister! You belong to a victorious army, and our side has just won a massive victory!

Our Father in heaven, we pray for this mighty miracle at Asbury University. Place your hand of protection on it and overshadow it. Take it to its full potential. Let us not do anything to tarnish the simple and innocent work You are doing. We ask all of this in the Name of Jesus. Amen.​

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A sixth wrong response is to jump too quick into calling it a revival.

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. (ESV)

Too many in the church these days, maybe even especially among Pentecostals and charismatics, lack discernment and are far too quick to accept anything with the appearance of being spiritual as from God. It could be a revival but it may not. There are several red flags and a much more cautious approach would be prudent.
 
A sixth wrong response is to jump too quick into calling it a revival.

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. (ESV)

Too many in the church these days, maybe even especially among Pentecostals and charismatics, lack discernment and are far too quick to accept anything with the appearance of being spiritual as from God. It could be a revival but it may not. There are several red flags and a much more cautious approach would be prudent.
Agree ,seeds planted by one are harvested by another and often plants grow and produce slowly over years.
 
You didn't actually listen .like her I have that experience with revivals .

My old church whose founder held revivals monthly and street preaching and did good things ,he passed ,his widow was my pastor .she had continued that .

They did have 24 hour revivals .it wasn't often but they did it . Usually prayer and worship . My current church founder ,hardly charismatic but grew up in Covington ky in a out there snake handling church ,led a revival once for a week .he also allowed with permission of the presbytery a Spanish pentacostal church to rent from the church .yet he was burned enough by his childhood that he eschews pentacostals.

He also as my pastor decided to continue it( revuve)

Discipling men to be fathers ,to equip them to train up their houses in the bible .

She said that will do much much more then a day at these "revivals" she never said it wasnt real but offered caution

Pentacostals will chase these Spiritual events rather then simply seek it in their own churches .I have heard a few pentacostals teach you don't need to go to Brownsville or any large revival to experience it .just seek it and He will show up.

Raising children to follow the Word is evidence of a follower who believes .
It's no use discipling persons that don't know the power of the Holy Spirit.

Revival is necessary.
Christianity is in danger.
 
A sixth wrong response is to jump too quick into calling it a revival.

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. (ESV)

Too many in the church these days, maybe even especially among Pentecostals and charismatics, lack discernment and are far too quick to accept anything with the appearance of being spiritual as from God. It could be a revival but it may not. There are several red flags and a much more cautious approach would be prudent.
Those young persons in the university seemed sincere to me.

They didn't have to be there unless they wanted to.

Let's not call good evil.
 
It's no use discipling persons that don't know the power of the Holy Spirit.

Revival is necessary.
Christianity is in danger.
It's no use discipling persons that don't know the power of the Holy Spirit.

Revival is necessary.
Christianity is in danger.
So in another words .

If a gay male having never known a woman gets saved and just let him not be taught about what men do in the home ?

You know I have that in part of my testimony .
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My church men's group seriously has spent a month on what men are to do and broke it down .

Instead just pray and don't have persons they can talk to there to lead them to the right ministry for them?

In time you will have to teach boys to nr boys and define the gender for them because they won't know


A man wouldnt know that he should of his mother of his child needs a car fixed he should fix it and if unable find a way .I know weak men who won't and dont care.

I raised Nathan in a way for that and his own dad according to Nathan is well not much of one .I didn't say that to Nathan as I have warned him and my wife don't spread that to Nathan .see his dad for his failings and good and judge accordingly.

I told my dad off a few times until I got saved and then realized I was an idiot my dad father me much and later regretted it and apologized.i wasn't much of a son .

Years later I have to unlearn where I didn't learn manhood right .

Elders help .I'm 50.!

I got saved at 26.

I know my jaci is exposed already to transgerdusm and thinks not much of it .not sure if it's bad she is but 12.

I have little say as I can't be there ,and can only control what I see.a few weeks in my church if not followed up won't do any good .I tried last year and it was naught!
 
So in another words .

If a gay male having never known a woman gets saved and just let him not be taught about what men do in the home ?

You know I have that in part of my testimony .
.
My church men's group seriously has spent a month on what men are to do and broke it down .

Instead just pray and don't have persons they can talk to there to lead them to the right ministry for them?

In time you will have to teach boys to nr boys and define the gender for them because they won't know


A man wouldnt know that he should of his mother of his child needs a car fixed he should fix it and if unable find a way .I know weak men who won't and dont care.

I raised Nathan in a way for that and his own dad according to Nathan is well not much of one .I didn't say that to Nathan as I have warned him and my wife don't spread that to Nathan .see his dad for his failings and good and judge accordingly.

I told my dad off a few times until I got saved and then realized I was an idiot my dad father me much and later regretted it and apologized.i wasn't much of a son .

Years later I have to unlearn where I didn't learn manhood right .

Elders help .I'm 50.!

I got saved at 26.

I know my jaci is exposed already to transgerdusm and thinks not much of it .not sure if it's bad she is but 12.

I have little say as I can't be there ,and can only control what I see.a few weeks in my church if not followed up won't do any good .I tried last year and it was naught!
Way too much to respond to.
Are those men in your church group spirit-filled men?
 
Way too much to respond to.
Are those men in your church group spirit-filled men?
It's the culture that is around .

You don't need to pentacostal to mentor.

Are you familiar with weselayan doctrine ?

They teach that Wondering could be a pastor of a flock .

While a minor Hersey and not apostate .but we'll God called Adam not eve to dress the garden .

Titus lists that if a man can't lead his house ,then he can't be an elder ,

Women can lead as elders in wesleyan theology .

Honestly I actually read their simplified sof at Asbury.

Students coming to learn theology ? Seriously I inquired of mine and my pastor sent me the wcf .and we quote it .
A seminary can't do more then the really over simple sof there?
I'm sure they have more but that is disappointing for one who if inclined want to dig into catechism.

Creeds and so forth .my church has copies of Wesleyan theology in books that they recommend.
 
A sixth wrong response is to jump too quick into calling it a revival.

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. (ESV)

Too many in the church these days, maybe even especially among Pentecostals and charismatics, lack discernment and are far too quick to accept anything with the appearance of being spiritual as from God. It could be a revival but it may not. There are several red flags and a much more cautious approach would be prudent.

2. Responding with doubt that it is a real revival.

If the first thing out of your mouth about Asbury was something like, “If this was a real revival, they wouldn’t sing those kind of worship choruses, or use that translation of the Bible,” you are reacting, but not discerning.

All revivals come to us through imperfect human beings. In many cases, God seizes human frailties for His glory. The Bible says, “We have this treasure in earthen vessels.”

Andrew Murray had a great church in Cape Town, South Africa. He left it the hands of others during a sabbatical in England. He returned one Saturday evening to find the church house full of people wailing before God. He charged in and broke up the meeting, rebuking them for their “emotionalism.” But when he stepped out of the church, he saw his father standing there weeping. His father said, “How dare you stop something that I have prayed to happen for 30 years.”

This rebuke cut so deep that Andrew refused to preach for months. He sat in the back of the church, repentant and contrite. Finally, on one Sunday morning, the elders physically picked him up and carried him into the pulpit. Then the fire that had begun during that Saturday night prayer meeting hit him. That awakening won 5,000,000 Africans to Jesus.
 
It's the culture that is around .

You don't need to pentacostal to mentor.

Are you familiar with weselayan doctrine ?

They teach that Wondering could be a pastor of a flock .

While a minor Hersey and not apostate .but we'll God called Adam not eve to dress the garden .

Titus lists that if a man can't lead his house ,then he can't be an elder ,

Women can lead as elders in wesleyan theology .

Honestly I actually read their simplified sof at Asbury.

Students coming to learn theology ? Seriously I inquired of mine and my pastor sent me the wcf .and we quote it .
A seminary can't do more then the really over simple sof there?
I'm sure they have more but that is disappointing for one who if inclined want to dig into catechism.

Creeds and so forth .my church has copies of Wesleyan theology in books that they recommend.
You didn't answer my question.
 
Those young persons in the university seemed sincere to me.
Therein lies one of the problems. JWs are sincere, Mormons are sincere, any number of people are sincere but are still very wrong. Emotions and feelings are absolutely not to be relied on to determine if something is of God.

They didn't have to be there unless they wanted to.
Of course, but sometimes emotions get the better of people. People wanting to worship and not leave isn’t in itself a sign of revival. People driving across the country isn’t a sign of revival.

Let's not call good evil.
And that I have not done. We need to be careful to not call something a revival or a move of God if it isn’t. As I have stated at least a couple of times, caution is necessary, especially since there are several red flags. Time alone will tell what this is as the fruit is made known.
 

2. Responding with doubt that it is a real revival.

If the first thing out of your mouth about Asbury was something like, “If this was a real revival, they wouldn’t sing those kind of worship choruses, or use that translation of the Bible,” you are reacting, but not discerning.

All revivals come to us through imperfect human beings. In many cases, God seizes human frailties for His glory. The Bible says, “We have this treasure in earthen vessels.”

Andrew Murray had a great church in Cape Town, South Africa. He left it the hands of others during a sabbatical in England. He returned one Saturday evening to find the church house full of people wailing before God. He charged in and broke up the meeting, rebuking them for their “emotionalism.” But when he stepped out of the church, he saw his father standing there weeping. His father said, “How dare you stop something that I have prayed to happen for 30 years.”

This rebuke cut so deep that Andrew refused to preach for months. He sat in the back of the church, repentant and contrite. Finally, on one Sunday morning, the elders physically picked him up and carried him into the pulpit. Then the fire that had begun during that Saturday night prayer meeting hit him. That awakening won 5,000,000 Africans to Jesus.
:shrug Doesn’t pertain to anything I’ve said.
 
Ok list the red flags you see.

People pouring their hearts out to God?
Repenting?
Praying?
Worshipping and singing praises to God?
Already done if you care to go back and read what I wrote, watch the two videos I posted, or the article jasonc shared.
 
You didn't answer my question.
So you believe that in order for to be saved one must be baptized in the spirit and speak in tongues ?

The Catholic as a whole .I know I have attended mass, charismatic prayer groups,the later is nothing like using missilates and forgoes the high church ritual of the Catholics

Don't do that .only the charismatic prayer groups .which one is locally teaching on the gifts .but they are a tiny section.

In your opinion therefore the papacy Is dead ?

Does mass have to be as it was with the charismatic prayer meeting .

One hour of worship .testimony and prayer time .annoucemts as needed .

Bible reading unless led to sing only .
Alter call to repent to intercede ,and more singing while others are at the alter .

I grew up in this so to speak .

Even my old church that are pentacostals,my church founder preached a few revivals there ,doesn't say that you need to have the Holy Ghost to be saved as in speaking and operating in all the gifts .
 
Therein lies one of the problems. JWs are sincere, Mormons are sincere, any number of people are sincere but are still very wrong. Emotions and feelings are absolutely not to be relied on to determine if something is of God.


Of course, but sometimes emotions get the better of people. People wanting to worship and not leave isn’t in itself a sign of revival. People driving across the country isn’t a sign of revival.


And that I have not done. We need to be careful to not call something a revival or a move of God if it isn’t. As I have stated at least a couple of times, caution is necessary, especially since there are several red flags. Time alone will tell what this is as the fruit is made known.
Too late here to really reply.

ANY move toward God is a good move.
A person raising a hand or crying is good.
Only the Holy Spirit can cause this to happen.
A person can't make believe.

Why criticize obvious love toward God?
Let's encourage not discourage and make the evil one have victory.
 
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