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Right and Wrong

Kidron said:
For example.
A man is in a gym, and a beautiful young woman, in tight gym shorts, walks past him to the next machine and starts to stretch.
So, the man notices.
In his mind he sees a movie begin..
This is temptation.
The fruit of the Spirit in him, his conscience, hits him with a rebuke...
At THAT POINT< he evaluates, and responds to ither keep playing the movie, or change the channel.
Right in there, temptation ither becomes the deed, or it became cast down.
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My wife canceled my subscription to that movie channel for me years ago.
 
Rollo Tamasi said:
If there were no Bible and no Christianity and no knowledge given to us of God, could we still know that there is a God and that he is good and that he wants us to be good?
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No. You wouldn't even be able to ask the question if this were all true. No one can answer your questions without the bible.

Its why no religion in the world can have the right answers. Its man trying to get to God and man will never succeed.

It is why Christianity is unique, and not a religion. It is God seeking after man. Man will never find God on his own. God had to come after man in order to be found by man.
 
gr8grace3 said:
No. You wouldn't even be able to ask the question if this were all true. No one can answer your questions without the bible.

Its why no religion in the world can have the right answers. Its man trying to get to God and man will never succeed.

It is why Christianity is unique, and not a religion. It is God seeking after man. Man will never find God on his own. God had to come after man in order to be found by man.
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Romans 1:20;
"For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities---his eternal power and divine nature---have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse".

Have you read your Bible lately?
 
Jethro Bodine said:
My wife canceled my subscription to that movie channel for me years ago.
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I was just exploring a universal temptation, for the sake of making a point about how temptation, if not checked, explodes in the mind.
I was not trying to convict you about your forgotten gym membership:)
 
Rollo Tamasi said:
This thread has turned into a Bible study.
That was not my intentions.
If there were no Bible and no Christianity and no knowledge given to us of God, could we still know that there is a God and that he is good and that he wants us to be good?
How is it possible for us to come to this conclusion?
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I expect God would speak to people directly more often.
Plus, if there's a creation, it does follow to reason that there is a creator. I suspect people would try to reach Him in some way.
 
Kidron said:
I was just exploring a universal temptation, for the sake of making a point about how temptation, if not checked, explodes in the mind.
I was not trying to convict you about your forgotten gym membership:)
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The 'movie' temptation of my mind usually plays out in the grocery store....in the frozen section....sometimes in the canned goods area. That's why in our househhold my wife does all the grocery shopping.

Hmmm......I wonder if that's where the movie temptation of her mind plays out? I never asked her. She did seem awfully anxious to get to Kroger's the other day.
 
reba said:
with out the scriptures there is no solid right or wrong
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Amen.

Frank Paretti in the 1980's did a sermon called "the Chair" in which he establishes the absolute necessity for an absolute truth on which to base all truth. That chair / absolute is the Bible the word of God. Hard to find a full length video of this online these days. Goofy guy alright (I think of Yoda on Dagobah) but brilliant teacher.
 
JohnD said:
Amen.

Frank Paretti in the 1980's did a sermon called "the Chair" in which he establishes the absolute necessity for an absolute truth on which to base all truth. That chair / absolute is the Bible the word of God. Hard to find a full length video of this online these days. Goofy guy alright (I think of Yoda on Dagobah) but brilliant teacher.
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Before the Bible existed, there were men who had faith in God, men who walked with God.
To say that these men did not have the truth is an absurdity.
 
Rollo Tamasi said:
Before the Bible existed, there were men who had faith in God, men who walked with God.
To say that these men did not have the truth is an absurdity.
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Surely, but the knowledge of right and wrong, and the faith to reject the wrong and walk in the right are two different things, no?
 
Rollo Tamasi said:
This thread has turned into a Bible study.
That was not my intentions.
If there were no Bible and no Christianity and no knowledge given to us of God, could we still know that there is a God and that he is good and that he wants us to be good?
How is it possible for us to come to this conclusion?
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That's the question I was trying to answer with my last post. We know of God not because of the existence of the Bible but because He made himself known.
 
That is exactly what I believe WIP. I believe the Bible is true because of God and not the other way around. I also believe that to some extent non believers are aware of right and wrong. Non believer's have to be held accountable for what they do in their lives.
 
gr8grace3 said:
It is why Christianity is unique, and not a religion. It is God seeking after man. Man will never find God on his own. God had to come after man in order to be found by man.
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Christianity is a religion and Christians need to stop saying otherwise.
 
Free said:
Christianity is a religion and Christians need to stop saying otherwise.
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Amen bro.

The Bible does not say Christianity is not a religion. Actually quite the opposite. It defines the religion that is pure and faultless and useful.

We are the ones who decided that 'religion' will always and categorically have a negative definition, not God.
 
Free said:
Religion won't but irrationality will. Christianity is a religion. There is no escaping that fact.
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Do you find that God becoming a man, wrapping himself in human flesh that he offered on a cross for your sins for FREE, to be a "religion"?
Really?
Do you find any other "religion" whereby God offers himself for you, so that you can be a part of him in eternity, and nothing is required because he did all the sacrificing for you?
Hummmmm.
The last time i checked, belonging to Christ and thereby adopted by God, is not a religion, but rather it is a family that is referred to as Jesus's own "body".
So, if this is a "religion", then its the only one like it.
And if you check your facts, you'll find that a "religion" is created my MAN, not GOD, to allow man to find himself a way to attempt to ither deify himself or reach up and by effort try to equal himself to "god", by himself.
Christianity, is God reaching to you.
So, i think you are wrong in your assessment, and if you would like to attempt to prove your opinion regarding Christianity being a "religion", you might start by sharing with us any other religion where God became a man to save humanity using himself as a sacrifice.
Name another one.
One.
 
Free said:
Religion won't but irrationality will. Christianity is a religion. There is no escaping that fact.
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What is the problem with someone calling Christianity a relationship instead of a religion? ONLY religion will want to place Christianity as just another religion.

EVERY religion is man going after God and trying to please Him

Christianity is God coming after man.

Why, Free, is that so bad for me to think this way and how does it hurt my witness for God?

I don't want to call Christianity a religion and won't. Who do I hurt?
 
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