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Right and Wrong

Kidron said:
Do you find that God becoming a man, wrapping himself in human flesh that he offered on a cross for your sins for FREE, to be a "religion"?
Really?
Do you find any other "religion" whereby God offers himself for you, so that you can be a part of him in eternity, and nothing is required because he did all the sacrificing for you?
Hummmmm.
The last time i checked, belonging to Christ and thereby adopted by God, is not a religion, but rather it is a family that is referred to as Jesus's own "body".
So, if this is a "religion", then its the only one like it.
And if you check your facts, you'll find that a "religion" is created my MAN, not GOD, to allow man to find himself a way to attempt to ither deify himself or reach up and by effort try to equal himself to "god", by himself.
Christianity, is God reaching to you.
So, i think you are wrong in your assessment, and if you would like to attempt to prove your opinion regarding Christianity being a "religion", you might start by sharing with us any other religion where God became a man to save humanity using himself as a sacrifice.
Name another one.
One.
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None of what you said addresses the fact that Christianity is a religion. You are using circular reasoning, like all who believe as you do. You first redefine religion in a way that precludes Christianity and then use that prove that Christianity isn't a religion.
 
gr8grace3 said:
What is the problem with someone calling Christianity a relationship instead of a religion? ONLY religion will want to place Christianity as just another religion.

EVERY religion is man going after God and trying to please Him

Christianity is God coming after man.

Why, Free, is that so bad for me to think this way and how does it hurt my witness for God?

I don't want to call Christianity a religion and won't. Who do I hurt?
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Fact check:

26 If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is worthless. 27 Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world. (James 1:26-27 NASB)

Let's stop redefining religion and start distinguishing between good and bad religion like the Word of God does.
 
gr8grace3 said:
What is the problem with someone calling Christianity a relationship instead of a religion? ONLY religion will want to place Christianity as just another religion.

EVERY religion is man going after God and trying to please Him

Christianity is God coming after man.

Why, Free, is that so bad for me to think this way and how does it hurt my witness for God?

I don't want to call Christianity a religion and won't. Who do I hurt?
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See my reply above as you are doing the same. The problem when it comes to your witness is that others recognize that Christianity is a religion, and so to redefine what religion means and then claim that Christianity isn't a religion, hurts the credibility of anything else you say regarding Christianity.
 
Free said:
See my reply above as you are doing the same. The problem when it comes to your witness is that others recognize that Christianity is a religion, and so to redefine what religion means and then claim that Christianity isn't a religion, hurts the credibility of anything else you say regarding Christianity.
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Grace believers don't recognize Christianity as just another religion. Others think and recognize Christianity as just another religion because Christianity is misrepresented by most Christians and religious folk and unbelievers.

Make a note of this, I have not redefined religion. I agree on the definition of religion. I disagree on how Christianity has been redefined.
 
Rollo Tamasi said:
Can anyone tell me the difference between right and wrong?
I don't mean by example, I mean by absolute truth.
And without the Bible as a guide.
Am I asking too much?
Also, just to let you know, I do not have an answer, just more questions.
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How about a conscience, I mean we are all born with one and over time we either harden our hearts to it or we obey it
 
Rollo Tamasi said:
Before the Bible existed, there were men who had faith in God, men who walked with God.
To say that these men did not have the truth is an absurdity.
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Paul addressed this in his Mars Hill sermon (Acts 17:22-31). They did not have truth and did not worship the True God exactly or had any idea that God was Mightier than an angel or the wind or lightening or was a god of the mountains versus the gods of the valley.

Your statement Rollo is likened unto "kindergarteners have truth too" so should they be allowed to run the world or be given the keys to nuclear arsenals?

Absurd!
 
JohnD said:
Paul addressed this in his Mars Hill sermon (Acts 17:22-31). They did not have truth and did not worship the True God exactly or had any idea that God was Mightier than an angel or the wind or lightening or was a god of the mountains versus the gods of the valley.

Your statement Rollo is likened unto "kindergarteners have truth too" so should they be allowed to run the world or be given the keys to nuclear arsenals?

Absurd!
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Think 'Abraham'.

You, like me, are thinking in terms of the world in general.

There most certainly was truth in the world, and the faith to walk in it, long before the full revelation of truth and faith came that we now have in the appearing of Jesus Christ.

I'd prolly let Abraham have the keys to our nuclear arsenal.
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JohnD said:
Paul addressed this in his Mars Hill sermon (Acts 17:22-31). They did not have truth and did not worship the True God exactly or had any idea that God was Mightier than an angel or the wind or lightening or was a god of the mountains versus the gods of the valley.

Your statement Rollo is likened unto "kindergarteners have truth too" so should they be allowed to run the world or be given the keys to nuclear arsenals?

Absurd!
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Hi John, why are you quoting the Bible?
We are suppose to be thinking outside the Bible.
Maybe what's really absurd is to think that you could do that.
In which case, your statement is correct.
 
gr8grace3 said:
Grace believers don't recognize Christianity as just another religion. Others think and recognize Christianity as just another religion because Christianity is misrepresented by most Christians and religious folk and unbelievers.

Make a note of this, I have not redefined religion. I agree on the definition of religion. I disagree on how Christianity has been redefined.
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If you truly haven't redefined religion, then you would see that Christianity is a religion. To say otherwise is to make your own definition of religion which precludes Christianity, which, as I have pointed out, is fallacious; it's circular. Christianity has not been redefined so that if fits the definition of religion.
 
Free said:
Romans 1:18-19 certainly seem to suggest that we can know God apart from the Bible.
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But to become a part of his FAMILY, takes a >New Birth<.
"you must be Born Again".
"for as many as RECEIVED HIM, gave he them POWER to BECOME > Sons of God".
 
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