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Salvation through baptism in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth for the remission of sins.
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Jesus is mentioned 1089 times in the New Testament. So it is not important to include everything mentioned as part of His "name", as there are many times when His name is mentioned without His tile, place of birth, etc. In fact, to show where are clearly wrong, here is Matthew 1:20-21, "But just when he had resolved to do this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for the child conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will bear a son, and you are to name him Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” So even God's angel didn't say that He was to be named "Jesus Christ of Nazareth".
Of those 1089 times, He is called Jesus Christ 217 times, and Jesus Christ of Nazareth twice. Apparently the divinely-inspired authors of the New Testament disagree with your statement that "it is important to include everything mentioned as part of His "name".
And you violate your own rule when you wrote "in order to be speaking of the real Jesus (see 2 Corinthians 11:3-4), it is important to utilize every element of His name when speaking of Him and to understand that in utilizing every element you are speaking His true Name."
And 2 Corinthians11:3-4 says, "But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by its cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough." So Paul violated your rule!!! LOL.
Clearly, there was a Jesus called Justus; and in history there may indeed have been another Jesus who lived in Nazareth.
So, in order to identify the true Messiah, we must needs identify Him by every element, i.e. "Jesus Christ of Nazareth" if we are going to distinguish Him from other Jesus's who might be in the mix.
As for Paul, it was clear which Jesus he was talking about...for Paul met "Jesus Christ of Nazareth" on the road to Damascus; and his life was forever changed after that.
So, in order to identify the true Messiah, we must needs identify Him by every element, i.e. "Jesus Christ of Nazareth" if we are going to distinguish Him from other Jesus's who might be in the mix.
As for Paul, it was clear which Jesus he was talking about...for Paul met "Jesus Christ of Nazareth" on the road to Damascus; and his life was forever changed after that.
LOL!!! There were and are many men who have been given the name Jesus, but none of them have been confused with the Messiah. Clearly in order to identify the true Messiah, we do not have to identify Him by every element, i.e. "Jesus Christ of Nazareth". Of the 1,089 times "Jesus" appears in the New Testament, "Jesus Christ of Nazareth" appears twice, roughly 1/500th of the mentions of His name, by the Bible's authors. You are clearly wrong!
No, I am not wrong.
But, believe what you want to on this.
As long as you don't end up mistaking another Jesus for the true Messiah, it is a peripheral issue.
I'm not the one who brought it up, you are. And I agree that it is a peripheral issue, pointless to discuss.
I don't recall who brought it up first. And, what does it matter who did?
So, reread the second part of my post: "it is a peripheral issue, pointless to discuss." So I won't discuss it.
Fine by me; as long as you don't go trusting in another Jesus because you have not specified the name of the real Jesus properly.
You can try to cast out demons in the name of Jesus of Nazareth; but if you are not talking about Jesus Christ of Nazareth, nothing is going to happen.
Likewise with salvation in Acts 4:10-12.
Jesus’s name is Jesus. Nazareth just specifies where he is from to differentiate him from others named Jesus. It’s no different than Simon of Cyrene—Cyrene is not a part of his name, it’s just a way to differentiate him from other Simons.
Exactly...and so, in order to specify the real Jesus, one must specify Him by the name "Jesus Christ of Nazareth" (Acts 4:10-12).
I have cast demons with the name of the Lord Jesus.
If you are not in Christ and filled with His Spirit, it doesn’t matter what you add to the name of Jesus.
When Jesus Christ is in you, and is leading you, devils know exactly which Jesus is exercising His authority over them.
Same thing with salvation.
that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
Romans 10:9
JLB
Not really. There is no one else in history named Jesus who anyone would think was someone other than Jesus the Christ.
See Colossians 4:11.
Yes, and was he also called Jesus the Christ? Did Paul say some were mistaking him for the Messiah?
That's what I'm saying. When we identify Him by name, we qualify that He isn't just "Jesus" or "Jesus of Nazareth" but "Jesus Christ of Nazareth".
Every element in some cases, is needed to identify the true Messiah.
If we merely say "Jesus", or even "Jesus Christ" (the Antichrist may have the first name Jesus and would therefore try and usurp that title), or "Jesus of Nazareth" (as there may be a Jesus who lived in Nazareth other than our Lord at some point in history), then we may be referring to the wrong Jesus.
It is important to have the right Jesus, wouldn't you say (see 2 Corinthians 11:3-4)?
The scriptures are clear that we have one Lord (Ephesians 4:5) (the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost) Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 8:6).
Because the Father is Lord (Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21, 2 Corinthians 6:17-18), the Son is Lord (1 Corinthians 12:3), and the Holy Spirit is Lord (2 Corinthians 3:17).
And there is one Lord (Ephesians 4:5) Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 8:6).
That with the true Jesus, all the fulness of the Godhead dwelleth within Him bodily (Colossians 2:9).
Even as the singular name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19) is "Jesus Christ" (Acts 2:38).
It is important to have the right Jesus, wouldn't you say (see 2 Corinthians 11:3-4)?
The scriptures are clear that we have one Lord (Ephesians 4:5) (the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost) Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 8:6).
Because the Father is Lord (Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21, 2 Corinthians 6:17-18), the Son is Lord (1 Corinthians 12:3), and the Holy Spirit is Lord (2 Corinthians 3:17).
And there is one Lord (Ephesians 4:5) Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 8:6).
That with the true Jesus, all the fulness of the Godhead dwelleth within Him bodily (Colossians 2:9).
Even as the singular name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19) is "Jesus Christ" (Acts 2:38).
They had to refer to him as "Justus" in order to distinguish him from "Jesus Christ of Nazareth"; since they generally called Him by shorter versions of His Name.