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Science Vs. Christianity

So, now what you're basically saying is that you do not believe in the theory of evolution.




No. I'm not saying that all. I'm saying that I believe that our ancestors resembled monkeys, but never actually were. That's the difference.
 
I thought that was the same thing, but maybe you're talking about coloning. Like what they did in Jurassic Park where they brought back the dinosaurs.
Gene splicing is medically or biologically altering the actual genes of a species to achieve something different.
No. I'm not saying that all. I'm saying that I believe that our ancestors resembled monkeys, but never actually were. That's the difference.
But that's what the Theory of Evolution claims. That we are here because we evolved over time from lower primates.
 
With breeding, we can predict with some level of accuracy the likely eye colors of the offspring between a blue-eyed man and a green-eyed woman. We can also predict other things with some reasonable accuracy such as blood type, body type, height, etc. These are examples of using breeding to advance a particular trait.
 
I see what you're saying about the genes now but you and a lot of other people still seem to be missing my point. I'm saying that there's a possibility that Adam and Eve just looked like prehistoric human beings because what proof do you or anybody else have that we look exactly (and I do mean exactly) the way we did over two thousand years ago even before Christ was born? I would also like to hear KevinK chime in on this one for a bit more of his insight.
 
I see what you're saying about the genes now but you and a lot of other people still seem to be missing my point. I'm saying that there's a possibility that Adam and Eve just looked like prehistoric human beings because what proof do you or anybody else have that we look exactly (and I do mean exactly) the way we did over two thousand years ago even before Christ was born? I would also like to hear KevinK chime in on this one for a bit more of his insight.
Not sure what you mean by exactly since no two of us look exactly alike. Even clinically identical twins don't look exactly alike.

What does a prehistoric human look like?

Natural selection accounts for how we have variety within our species such as skin color, eye color, hair color, tall, short, thin, heavy, and so on but we are still the same species.
 
Not sure what you mean by exactly since no two of us look exactly alike. Even clinically identical twins don't look exactly alike.

What does a prehistoric human look like?

Natural selection accounts for how we have variety within our species such as skin color, eye color, hair color, tall, short, thin, heavy, and so on but we are still the same species.





Prehistoric human=caveman.
 
Prehistoric human=caveman.
What did a caveman look like? There were many people that lived in caves during Biblical times. There is mention of cave dwellers in the Old Testament. I think King David spent some time in one. There are people that live in caves yet today.
 
What did a caveman look like? There were many people that lived in caves during Biblical times. There is mention of cave dwellers in the Old Testament. I think King David spent some time in one. There are people that live in caves yet today.



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LOL!!! :hystericalJK :tongue I think that was my whole point is that we weren't really sure what humans looked like back then.
 
That's right.




Then why does it always seem like everybody on this thread and forum for that matter acts like they always know everything? I do believe that this is a legitimate question by the way. None of us were around when Adam and Eve were created and therefore nobody knows for sure what they looked like, or what Jesus looked like, or if a big bang followed God speaking the world and the universe into existence, and if an asteroid will follow the earthquakes and volcanoes.
 
I see what you're saying about the genes now but you and a lot of other people still seem to be missing my point. I'm saying that there's a possibility that Adam and Eve just looked like prehistoric human beings because what proof do you or anybody else have that we look exactly (and I do mean exactly) the way we did over two thousand years ago even before Christ was born? I would also like to hear KevinK chime in on this one for a bit more of his insight.
Well, I think here is a situation where science and Scripture agree. I don't see that the first people would look substantially different than we do now. It's just been too short a time.

Acc. to "Science", life started on our planet some 3.5 billion years ago. Fast forward, and the genus Homo (primitive humans) appeared 2.5 million years ago. A couple more million years go by, and species Homo sapiens (us) comes about.

So we modern peeps have been on the planet only about a half million years (give or take), i.e. about a thousandth of a percent of the time that life has existed at all. On the 24-hour clock of evolution, that means we've been around for less than one second. Not enough time for any major morphological changes.

However, that doesn't mean I don't believe in evolution because I do, and according to the above timeline. I believe the "days" described in Genesis are not 24-hour earth days, but loosely represent long epochs in the creation of the universe. After all, what is a billion years to God?
 
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In response to the OP, I actually think it's a valid possibility that the universe was created by an unrecorded big bang. Genesis 1 states "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." It doesn't say how He created it. Maybe it was with a rapidly expanding point singularity.
 
I agree, but I'm not really sure what natural selection is.
WIP already explained it in detail, but to say it another way: natural selection is one possible way by which some people (Darwinists) believe evolution occurs. (There are other possible mechanisms, for example Intelligent Design.)

Using simple terms (probably overly-simple), in natural selection those traits that increase adaptability tend to be kept, and those that don't become unexpressed or lost completely. This rather random process takes a very long time, which is why it stands in apparent oppostion to more literal interpretations of the Bible.
 
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Also to be clear, I do believe we are all stil evolving, but I don't think early sapiens looked like cavemen, they looked pretty much like us. The development has been in small increments, i.e. minor changes like average height and hair color, but not foreheads longer than our noses or knuckles that dragged on the ground.
 
In all fairness to the original post I did some further research. There does seem to be some latitude to the question of what early sapiens may have looked like. Some say you wouldn't notice a difference if one walked down the street in modern clothes; others say the difference in their features would be more than enough to differentiate them.

Re-examining the timeline, it took early Homo two million years to speciate into modern humans, the latter being around some half-million years. So focusing our timeline into more recent vintage, we are basically a quarter of the way to a brand new species completely. That could certainly accomodate significant physical differences between us today and the first Homo sapiens. So it is technically possible they had "caveman"-like attributes. With the current fossil record, I can't completely rule it out.
 
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Here's another angle. If we accept the Evolutionary Theory then the earliest humans were microbes that looked very much like the photo below.

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Here's another angle. If we accept the Evolutionary Theory then the earliest humans were microbes that looked very much like the photo below.

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Even if you don't accept the theory of evolution, I looked up what microbes were and it's basically like bacteria and so we all have it in our bodies anyways.
 
Even if you don't accept the theory of evolution, I looked up what microbes were and it's basically like bacteria and so we all have it in our bodies anyways.
Yes, but the Theory of Evolution says we started as microbes billions of years ago and slowly evolved into what we are today. Do you honestly think that is what God did?
 
Here's another angle. If we accept the Evolutionary Theory then the earliest humans were microbes that looked very much like the photo below.
Whoa there, those ancestral single-cell organisms were not human, early or otherwise. Human = member of genus Homo. Modern human is the species Homo sapien.
 
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