Asimov said:
blueeyeliner said:
Asimov said:
Then you also have to look at:
Daniel 4:10-11. In Daniel, the king “saw a tree of great height at the centre of the earth...reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth's farthest bounds.â€Â
[quote:ecf4d]Matthew 4:8 says, “Once again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world [cosmos] in their glory.†Obviously, this would be possible only if the earth were flat. The same is true of Revelation 1:7: “Behold, he is coming with the clouds! Every eye shall see him...â€Â
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Oh',so now you take the scriptures literally?
A vision cannot have truth,right,and Jesus Christ cannot
have such powers huh?Hmmmm......................
Which is it? The bible is to be taken literally or it's not in your mind?
It doesn't matter how I interpret those scriptures, I'm asking berean how he interprets those scriptures.[/quote:ecf4d]
In Daniel 4:10-11 The King is giving a description of what he saw in a "vison". The vision is filled with symbols.
Daniel interprets this vision to the King.
Daniel 4:20 The tree that thou sawest, which grew, and was strong, whose height reached unto the heaven, and the sight thereof to all the earth;
Daniel 4:21 Whose leaves were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all; under which the beasts of the field dwelt, and upon whose branches the fowls of the heaven had their habitation:
Daniel 4:22
It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.
Obviously the King is not a tree. The whole thing is to make known unto the King the symbolism of the tree. It is not intepreted literally because the text does not allow itself to that type of interpretation.
Matthew 4:8
Matthew 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
Satan is using supernatural power to show the glory of the kingdoms of the earth.
No one even in that time would believe that a person could see every kingdom on earth from a mountain top.
All that is recorded is that Satan transported Jesus to a huge mountain and showed him the glory of the earths kingdom.
I believe just what it says. Satan supernaturally took Christ to a high mountain and showed Christ the riches of the earth and it's kingdoms in a supernatural manner.
I see no reason to believe that this indicates the bible shows the earth being flat.
I missed some of the other posts in this thread as I have been preoccupied elsewhere.
Revelation 1.
Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Jesus when He returns to rule and reign on the earth will be no secret.
All the nations of the earth will be brought before Him for judgement.
Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matthew 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matthew 24:30
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet,
and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
We are not given great detail on what the sign of will be of His coming except that it will be bright and that the whole world will know when He comes.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the
brightness of his coming:
Perhaps when He returns there will be a great light seen in the heavens. This could be in the outer reaches of space.
Perhaps this is the "sign of His coming" as read in Matthew 24:30. We don't know for sure but it seems likely that this will be the case.
There will be no doubt and there will be no atheists in that day.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Revelation 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
Revelation 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
Revelation 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Revelation 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Revelation 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Atheists are fools but their foolishness will turn to fear in that day.
There is time for fools to repent and come to Christ to receive the pardon He has so graciously offered evil men.
Those who do so will not see the wrath of God.
1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1 Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child;
and they shall not escape.
1 Thessalonians 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Praise God! :D
1 Thessalonians 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
1 Thessalonians 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
1 Thessalonians 5:7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
1 Thessalonians 5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
1 Thessalonians 5:9
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
1 Thessalonians 5:10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
The opportunity has been given for the skeptic and the atheist to repent and believe that their wicked sins have been paid for by Christ.
Time to make a choice.
All those who put their faith in Christ and His finished work on the cross shall be saved.
2 Corinthians 6:2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time;
behold, now is the day of salvation.)
To believe or not to believe that is the choice laid before you Mr. Asimov.
Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Revelation 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Revelation 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Revelation 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and
unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
For your sake and for Christ's sake I hope you consider these things.
You can never say that no one told you.
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Read interpretation number four on the bottom half of that
