See here.

[ronniechoate34]

You are extremely ill informed, and what is worse is you truly don't understand the scriptures. Of course there will be accusers but the proof is in the pudding. And all we have is accusations against King James that were raised after his death. But we do have solid evidence that the devil has counterfeited the Word of God. But to see it you must yield to the Spirit.

 

[ronniechoate34]

Firstly I dont use the NIV.

All bibles in use except the KJV use the same corrupt manuscripts that Westcott and Hort used for their revision.

Secondly the PUBLISHER isnt necessarily the person who TRANSLATES.

No but if you own the rights to the niv as Rupert Murdoch does then you can revise it anyway you like. The words belong to him and he can change them at will. In fact it's being revised again for the newer more satanic generation. I believe Rupert is probably in on this one. It's huge for him really because he has such a deceived mass following him that the power must be going way past his head by now. He probably really believes that he is the Prince of Darkness. Just look at what he permits, says, and does.

As far as a PUBLISHER goes, its all books regardless and its all money....that includes some of the money grubbing publishers who print the KJV simply for the cash.

I know that I am predictable sometimes but I've just got to put this out there.


1Tm:6:5: Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
1Tm:6:6: But godliness with contentment is great gain.
1Tm:6:7: For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
1Tm:6:8: And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
1Tm:6:9: But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
1Tm:6:10: For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
1Tm:6:11: But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

 

[follower of Christ]

You are extremely ill informed,

oh brother.
You need a new line

and what is worse is you truly don't understand the scriptures.

See above
The scriptures say NOTHING about a sinner named King James and the bible that was translated during his reign

Of course there will be accusers but the proof is in the pudding.

You better be breaking out some pudding then, friend because we've seen no proof yet ;)

And all we have is accusations against King James that were raised after his death. But we do have solid evidence that the devil has counterfeited the Word of God. But to see it you must yield to the Spirit.

What solid evidence, poster ? Other than ONE version printed by this publisher, what claims can you support ? Any at all ?

I thought not....

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[westtexas]

All bibles in use except the KJV use the same corrupt manuscripts

Ronnie, I need you to do me a favor, please sir. Pick any version of the Bible except the KJV and pick any verse that you think has been perverted and put it side by side with the KJV and let's talk about the differences.
Westtexas

 

[follower of Christ]

All bibles in use except the KJV use the same corrupt manuscripts that Westcott and Hort used for their revision.

Inevitability...gotta love it ;)

READERS TAKE NOTE that weve caught this person either in an outright lie or a complete lack of knowledge.
There are a number of bibles that are based on the same manuscripts that the KJV is, including the MODERN KJV and the LITV, both by Sovereign Grace Publishers.
So it is an outright falsehood that 'all bibles in use except the KJV' that this poster claims
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What it does for us, however, is show us conclusively that ronnie doesnt have a clue about the FACTS


Youre burying yourself, friend, with every post you make...
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[follower of Christ]

No but if you own the rights to the niv as Rupert Murdoch does then you can revise it anyway you like.
The words belong to him and he can change them at will. In fact it's being revised again for the newer more satanic generation. I believe Rupert is probably in on this one. It's huge for him really because he has such a deceived mass following him that the power must be going way past his head by now. He probably really believes that he is the Prince of Darkness. Just look at what he permits, says, and does.

As I said, I dont use the NIV....so you need to talk to someone else ;)

Additionally, even if we assume that the NIV is corrupt, that has NO bearing on the MANY other versions that mr Murdoch has NO impact on and it certainly DOESNT show that the KJV is the only godly version out there.

Your argument has pretty much no foundation whatsoever....and this discussion is becoming more of a nuisance than anything else seeing that its getting out of hand on two levels now.

 

[ronniechoate34]

All bibles in use except the KJV use the same corrupt manuscripts

Ronnie, I need you to do me a favor, please sir. Pick any version of the Bible except the KJV and pick any verse that you think has been perverted and put it side by side with the KJV and let's talk about the differences.
Westtexas

From which perversion should I choose? There are so many. What's your poison?

 

[follower of Christ]

All bibles in use except the KJV use the same corrupt manuscripts

Ronnie, I need you to do me a favor, please sir. Pick any version of the Bible except the KJV and pick any verse that you think has been perverted and put it side by side with the KJV and let's talk about the differences.
Westtexas

From which perversion should I choose? There are so many. What's your poison?

I think the point was that YOU find one that YOU find objectionable

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[westtexas]

All bibles in use except the KJV use the same corrupt manuscripts

Ronnie, I need you to do me a favor, please sir. Pick any version of the Bible except the KJV and pick any verse that you think has been perverted and put it side by side with the KJV and let's talk about the differences.
Westtexas

From which perversion should I choose? There are so many. What's your poison?

Take your choice
Westtexas

 

[ronniechoate34]

READERS TAKE NOTE that weve caught this person either in an outright lie or a complete lack of knowledge.
There are a number of bibles that are based on the same manuscripts that the KJV is, including the MODERN KJV and the LITV, both by Sovereign Grace Publishers.
So it is an outright falsehood that 'all bibles in use except the KJV' that this poster claims
.
What it does for us, however, is show us conclusively that ronnie doesnt have a clue about the FACTS


Youre burying yourself, friend, with every post you make...
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I know this is true and I thought that I had made that clear enough. But since I didn't let me say that while some of these new versions do incorporate the Textus Receptus into their translation they are not purely without vaticanus and sinaiticus. That makes them corrupt. They are based on the same corrupt manuscripts used for the 1881 revision.

 

[ronniechoate34]

Take your choice
Westtexas

Use the niv to tell me what gets rid of demons according to Matthew 17:21.

 

[follower of Christ]

I know this is true and I thought that I had made that clear enough. But since I didn't let me say that while some of these new versions do incorporate the Textus Receptus into their translation they are not purely without vaticanus and sinaiticus. That makes them corrupt. They are based on the same corrupt manuscripts used for the 1881 revision.

So if you KNEW that it wasnt true when you said this:

ronniechoate34 wrote:
All bibles in use except the KJV use the same corrupt manuscripts that Westcott and Hort used for their revision.

...then this means you knowingly fabricated information to push your agenda ?
Dont we call that sort of thing a 'lie' ?
I mean, if you claim you knew then how can you say "All bibles in use except the KJV" and NOT have been lying ?
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[Free]

Here is an example of the KJV trying to remove the deity of Jesus:

Joh 1:18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known. (ESV)

Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. (KJV)

 

[ronniechoate34]

So if you KNEW that it wasnt true when you said this:

ronniechoate34 wrote:
All bibles in use except the KJV use the same corrupt manuscripts that Westcott and Hort used for their revision.

...then this means you knowingly fabricated information to push your agenda ?

No. What this means is that all other translations except the KJV referred to the same corrupt manuscripts as Westcott and Hort. They were most certainly used to some extent in all new revisions.

I mean, if you claim you knew then how can you say "All bibles in use except the KJV" and NOT have been lying ?
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I thought I was clear about it. Anyway. It isn't hard to understand and now that it's clear you can cut out the liar talk. You wouldn't want to judge me too harshly would you?

 

[ronniechoate34]

Here is an example of the KJV trying to remove the deity of Jesus:

Joh 1:18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known. (ESV)

Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. (KJV)

These were most certainly Jesus' Words and the same who declared Him made Him known as well. You know...because of His declaration and everything.

 

[Free]

Here is an example of the KJV trying to remove the deity of Jesus:

Joh 1:18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known. (ESV)

Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. (KJV)

These were most certainly Jesus' Words and the same who declared Him made Him known as well. You know...because of His declaration and everything.

You completely missed the point.

 

[ronniechoate34]

This ^ proves the KJV is not guilty of the charge of heresy. But the esv is guilty of declaring a gnostic god. BURN IT!

 

[follower of Christ]

No. What this means is that all other translations except the KJV referred to the same corrupt manuscripts as Westcott and Hort. They were most certainly used to some extent in all new revisions.

Sorry but that is, again, untrue.
Youre pushing the same KJVonly rhetoric that all KJVonlyers do, Im afraid.

And AGAIN, youre precious KJV translators referenced OTHER bibles at the time when translating, so lets not pretend that the KJV can claim that ONLY the TR influenced the translation.

I thought I was clear about it. Anyway. It isn't hard to understand and now that it's clear you can cut out the liar talk. You wouldn't want to judge me too harshly would you?

I'll let it go since I dont want to get into trouble here, but you and I BOTH know what you just did, friend.
Were we at another forum where I could say what needs to be said here, yes, Id be pretty harsh with you at this point.


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[ronniechoate34]

The previous post I made proves the KJV is not guilty of the charge of heresy. But the esv is guilty of declaring a gnostic god. BURN IT!

 

[follower of Christ]

This ^ proves the KJV is not guilty of the charge of heresy. But the esv is guilty of declaring a gnostic god. BURN IT!

You still have yet to explain how your 'inspired' translation was so imperfect that it had to be corrected and updated.

You still have yet to explain why these supposed 'inspired' translators felt to include the Apocrypha yet its been removed by much of the protestant church.

Anything to present here, or just more of the 'satandidit' lines ?

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