Sign of the Beast

[Jake99]

Kerravon,

I recommend you go to salvationnetwork.org and read the works of one man who clearly outlines the dangers of your free will system in terms of the fruit that grows from capitalism. The site lists 120 sites or topics that are failures of capitalism and how they negatively effect the world. The Iraqi blogs are something I am not familiar with ( I thought a blog was a web site of someones opinions) I solve problems at a rate you have never seen before and I do it systematically. I don't need dictators, I need resource and service management systems that reap and serve, not rape and destroy the environment. I am recommending total instantaneous global change to what the bible recommends. That is the only system that can ever work and I am the only man that can implement it.

 

[kerravon]

I recommend you go to salvationnetwork.org and read the works of one man who clearly outlines the dangers of your free will system in terms of the fruit that grows from capitalism. The site lists 120 sites or topics that are failures of capitalism and how they negatively effect the world.

In comparison to what? Against communism, capitalism (a NATURAL system of trade) is a breath of fresh air.

The Iraqi blogs are something I am not familiar with ( I thought a blog was a web site of someones opinions)

It is. The thing is, it was crucial to find out why only half of Iraq was happy to be liberated, and the other half felt humiliated. We needed to find out why large numbers of Arabs didn't value freedom. So that they could hang on to their democracy and human rights.

I solve problems at a rate you have never seen before and I do it systematically.

You should have been applying your alleged skills to the Iraqis, to find out why the motto of nearly the entire country wasn't the same as in America/Australia, ie "give me liberty or give me death". You were conspicuously absent. Apparently you were spending your effort trying to spread a failed system like communism, designed to bring out the worst in people.

I don't need dictators, I need resource and service management systems that reap and serve, not rape and destroy the environment.

What you need is your priorities changed so that instead of railing against the US's proven system, you were instead trying to save the Arabs from their self-destructiveness.

I am recommending total instantaneous global change to what the bible recommends.

The bible is a dogma. There's your first problem. We have separation of church and state just to overcome the problems with religious dogma. Communism is another dogma which should equally be excluded from the state.

That is the only system that can ever work and I am the only man that can implement it.

Capitalism is already working. And it doesn't need anyone to implement it, it happens automatically. And within the capitalist system you can get willing participants to start a hippy farm based on communism etc without needing to force the rest of the country to subscribe to such bullshit. Just start your own hippy farm. What are you waiting for? Or you could go and join the other failed hippy farms.

There is one problem with capitalism in 3rd world countries, described here:

http://www.ild.org.pe/eng/mystery.htm

 

[Jake99]

Kerravon,

Obviously you did not read Salvationnetwork.org, because if you did you would clearly see that capitalism is a total environmental failure. That does not mean all the other systems of the world are not worse in many ways. Spreading this system to the world is the biggest cancer you could endorse from an efficiency and environmental standpoint. I know the Iraq's want what US people have and I want to give it to them. That is where internet in every home and free standard internet education in one language comes in. If you want to watch a movie, get educated or play an online game just look it up and press play. Stress, according to Dr Don Colbert is the cause of 70-90% of all US doctor visits. Capitalism has attacked the minds of children and people in general and I stand against it as Jesus did, in every way. I like the Hippies way better than your CEOs and corporate and political criminals,( I mean incompetent leaders).

 

[Vic C.]

Jake, that post brings me back to my younger days. I agree with most of what you said about capitalism. If we are here when antichrist hits the scene, I'll see you at the commune. :rainbowafro: LOL

 

[kerravon]

Obviously you did not read Salvationnetwork.org,

I did go there and didn't see anything of interest.

because if you did you would clearly see that capitalism is a total environmental failure.

It is the USSR that produced Chenobyl, not safety-conscious USA.

That does not mean all the other systems of the world are not worse in many ways. Spreading this system to the world is the biggest cancer you could endorse from an efficiency and environmental standpoint.

No it isn't. It's the most efficient system know to man, and it is entirely natural.

I know the Iraq's want what US people have and I want to give it to them. That is where internet in every home and free standard internet education in one language comes in.

I don't have a problem with doing these things. Just so long as it doesn't interfere with the natural running of the economy. I think that Americans living in dumpsters is entirely wrong. There should be a government guarantee that all humans will be housed and fed.

If you want to watch a movie, get educated or play an online game just look it up and press play. Stress, according to Dr Don Colbert is the cause of 70-90% of all US doctor visits. Capitalism has attacked the minds of children and people in general

It has not attacked the minds of children. It's a totally natural phenomenon.

and I stand against it as Jesus did, in every way. I like the Hippies way better than your CEOs and corporate and political criminals,( I mean incompetent leaders).

Then why don't you get a hippy farm working in America and demonstrate to us how to do it properly? As I have already said, you can implement communism on top of a capitalist system. You have freedom of association.

And you are still weaseling out of the fact that you didn't do a damn thing to ensure that the Iraqis never lost their human rights again.

 

[Jake99]

Everyone on the planet should have the same rights and live under the same simple operating system. Capitalism and Communism and Socialism combined is fine by me as long as you earn the right to use things and property not own them. Management of resources cannot be left up to individuals who managed to be born first and or in many cases lied, cheated, stole or murdered to get what they possess. Chernobal's would not happen if dangerous things were managed by a global authority. Inspect and repair every facility, transportation vehicle and home and recycle the junk and build great stuff only. I do not need a currency system and the payroll system would be automated and standardized. I don't need a stock, money or real estate market and all products come factory or distribution center direct (no salesman or advertisers). No lines on the map means no borders, or resources to militarily protect. Open booked distribution of products and materials. Get clearance to travel and distribute so that disease of all kinds is kept in check. The end of small business and where the next meal comes from means you wont be selling skin to survive or plants and animals into areas they do not belong. And all the extra airplanes and boats could be staged for emergency evacuation in natural disaster areas which would take you to the thousands of buildings that are set up for temporary refugees. No more gambling means we have a lot of empty hotel rooms and casinos that turn into indoor recreation centers.

Capitalism may be the best system known to man but that is because man never tried the system that is recommended in the bible which supposedly is what the capitalists say they believe in. You will buy and sell no more is because it is an inefficient use of manpower and the pricing of products and advertising is not user or environmentally friendly. You will not draw lines on the map means no ownership papers and no selling of natural resources. And the list goes on and on until you are on the simplest system possible with equal opportunity.

 

[kerravon]

Everyone on the planet should have the same rights and live under the same simple operating system. Capitalism and Communism and Socialism combined is fine by me as long as you earn the right to use things and property not own them.

As I have already explained, you can implement what you wish on top of a capitalist society. Just start your own hippy farm and the enormous success it will presumably be will cause more and more people to switch to your "great" system where no-one owns property etc etc. You have no right to run an absurd social experiment on an entire country or the entire world.

Additionally, you still haven't explained why you weren't desperately trying to ensure that the Iraqi people never lost their human rights again. Why weren't you in the Iraqi blogs?

 

[Jake99]

I don't need to go into the Iraqi blogs to know what their problems are its obvious. And my so called hippy farm, high on pot could outperform your suit and tie pig farm on alcohol a million to one. I am not giving you the opportunity to manage the land on a profit basis which leads to poor quality and environmental destruction. Why do you have to own what you can use for free? I just want the right to use land for the common good not the good of some unqualified small business or homeowner. Small business is environmentally unfriendly and extremely inefficient and Capitalism supports it. I think its time to put George Bush and the rest of Satans Capitalistic disciples in a tent in the Himalayas for the winter or as long as other people are in that situation.

 

[kerravon]

I don't need to go into the Iraqi blogs to know what their problems are its obvious.

If the problems are obvious, when and where did you first let the rest of the world know that the solution was for the Iraqis to join the tribe of anti-subjugators?

And my so called hippy farm, high on pot could outperform your suit and tie pig farm on alcohol a million to one.

Then just do it. Lead by example. When you show how great the living standards are when we do things your way, I will join it too, and be an ardent supporter. Just do it.

 

[MrVersatile48]

Re: The Mark of the Beast

Hi all !

Look at these Scriptures... maybe these may help us to understand what the " Mark of the beast" really is.

Revelation 12:9
" And the great dragon was CAST OUT [ remember, Christ told satan to get behind Him; therefore only his spirit is able to roam the earth from that time to present] that OLD SERPENT, called the DEVIL, and SATAN, WHICH DECEIVETH THE WHOLE WORLD; HE WAS CAST OUT INTO THE EARTH [ at this time it's not just his evil spirit anyore, but he is actually CAST OUT ONTO THE EARTH, where he plays the role of anti (instead of) christ, he at this time will be the anti-christ; let's remember that anti in the Greek means instead of christ, at this time he will play the spurious messiah, and deceive most of the world as they will believe him to be Jesus Christ]
and his angels [the fallen angels] were CAST OUT WITH HIM [ with who...? with satan, the devil, as he plays the role of anti-christ]

II Thessalonians 2:3
" ...... AND THAT DAY [ what day ? The Lord's Day, the second advent, the True Jesus Christ's return] SHALL NOT COME, except there come a falling away [also known as the great apostacy, those that have been deceived by the dragon, satan, the devil and fall AWAY to the wrong christ], AND THAT MAN OF SIN [what man of sin ? satan, the devil, that same one that has been cast out to the earth] BE REVEALED, THE SON OF PERDITION [ satan has already been sentenced to death, he is a dead man walking, satan is the son of perdition]

*** ISAIAH 14:12-16 ***

II Thessalonians 2:4
" Who opposeth and exaulteth himself [himself ? that being satan, the son of perdition, the devil while he plays the role of anti-christ] above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; SO THAT HE AS GOD SITTETH IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD, SHEWING [ claiming to be] HIMSELF THAT HE IS GOD [ satan is going to be cast to the earth in this generation, the generation of the fig tree, and he is going to pretend that he is Jesus and deceive most of the world].

Mark 13:14
" But when ye SHALL [not maybe, not perhaps, but you SHALL] see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, [it=meaning he, meaning the anti-christ, meaning the "instead of"-christ, that same one who was cast out to the earth in Revelation 12:9] (let him that readeth UNDERSTANDETH.) Then let them that be in Judea' flee to the mountains.

Revelation 13:11
" And I beheld another beast [ John saw this, he is telling us what was going to happen, he is teling us how satan is going to play Jesus] coming up out of the earth [Revelation 12:12= read it !]; AND HE HAD TWO HORNS LIKE A LAMB [horns are symbolic of power, John is telling us that he looked like the Lamb, he looked just like the Lamb of God, but....] AND HE SPAKE AS A DRAGON [that same dragon spoken of in Revelation 12:9, that old serpent , called the devil]

Revelation 13:13
" And he [he.. who's he? the dragon, that old serpent, the devil, as he plays his role as the instead of christ or anti-christ] doeth GREAT WONDERS, SO THAT HE MAKETH FIRE [ lightening] COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN ON THE EARTH IN THE SIGHT OF MEN [ who's gonna see it ? the people on the earth as he plays the role of the spurious messiah]

*** I have also read on through verses 14 & 15; for IT IS WRITTEN THAT he is going to deceiveth those that DWELL ON THE EARTH ! I believe from other scriptures that the first beast is a political beast, a one world system, the second beast is a religious beast.

Now with those scriptures being read, for there are more that support that satan will come to this earth and pretend that he is God, I believe we can better see what the MARK OF THE BEAST really is.

REVELATION 13:16
" And he causeth all [ all that have NOT the seal of God in their minds, which is to say God's truth, all those that have NOT read & understood the end time prophecies], both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, TO RECEIVE A "MARK" "IN" their right hand [in their right hand, the right hand is symbolic of power, and these are doing his work, THINKING that that are doing the work of Jesus christ] or "IN" their foreheads. " [ What is "IN" your forehead ? Well.... your brain, your mind, where you think, and these THINK and BELEIVE that this dragon is Jesus Christ, but it's not.. it is that old serpent, the devil in his role as anti-christ, it is the instead of christ, this is an idiom in that they beleive in their minds that the false one is Jesus Christ.]

REVELATION 13:18
" HERE IS WISDOM. Let him that hath understanding COUNT the number of the beast; FOR IT IS A NUMBER OF A MAN [ lucifer. lucifer means morning star, there are two moring stars, the FAKE ONE which is anti-christ and the True One, that being our Lord Jesus Christ, many are going to FALL AWAY to the FAKE first.], AND HIS NUMBER IS SIX HUNDRED THREESCORE AND SIX. "


666; I believe that this "mark" in their foreheads, which simply means in their brains, in their minds are the lies which satan deceives the world with at the end of this earth age BEFORE the Lord's Day. [This is the flood of the endtimes, satans's flood of lies.] Therefore, one MUST pay close attention to the 6th seal, the 6th trump, and the 6th vial, for SATAN WILL BE CAST OUT TO EARTH IN THE SIXTH TRUMP, HE WILL BE CAST DOWN TO EARTH ! [ Revelation 12:12 & Revelation 9:5; remember how Jesus Christ said that He had shortened the time for the elects sake? five months according to Revelation 9:5]. SATAN WILL PRETEND TO BE "CHRIST"; HE WILL BE THAT "ANTI-CHRIST"!!!! Those that believe that satan is Jesus Christ take the "mark" of the beast, for satan is that beast, you know that beast that looked like the lamb of God, but spake as a dragon. Remember that the TRUE Christ does NOT come until the SEVENTH TRUMP, THE FURTHEST TRUMP OUT, THE LAST TRUMP and there are SEVEN !

Abiyah

I only had time to read this far & get this link in case its details help any readers:-

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=18503

do forgive any duplication, OK?

Must go!

Ian

 

[Jake99]

The way you identify the christ is by his works and so forth with the anti christ. I see the anti christ hard at work all over the globe everyday and the environment gets worse by the second. I have worked smart not hard and the only thing in my wake is total success at doing the same things. You cannot eat the fish in Lake Ontario and many of the Cape Cod lakes and Houston has 12 superfund clean up sites before the hurricanes hit. Those accomplishments are normal across the USA and we have only been here a few centuries. If that is your idea of a good system and good leadership that you want to keep standing behind the greedy fools that brought you those problems. I have yet to hear of a good leader on this planet and Ronald Regan, Bill Clinton and the Bushs have been the worst in the US. Why not just hand over the most powerful job in the world to a child he probably has a better compass.

 

[MrVersatile48]

See related thread..

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=18527

My post - @ 5th down - may help folk here

God bless!

Ian

 

[kerravon]

The way you identify the christ is by his works

Yes Jake, and at the time of the Iraq war, the most important thing in the world was securing the human rights of Iraqis so that never again would the population be subjected to "rape rooms" and other unspeakable crimes. And also to see if we can end the unspeakable crimes in other countries too. The answers were all in the Iraqi blogs. I was the one who came up with the final solution to the problem (in message 666 dated 2004-09-11). You weren't there Jake. You weren't desperately trying to secure the human rights of fellow human beings. You aren't Christ.

 

[Hawkins]

Re: The Mark of the Beast

I agree with you :smt038 about 'the mark of the beast' being 'mental acceptance' by the individual as opposed to an actual 'physical' mark. I believe that one who receives this mark will be in total agreement and will fully cooporate with 'something' that Satan initiates in the future.

As far as the 'mark' in the right hand is concerned, I believe that one may not fully approve of 'whatever it is' that Satan initiates, but they choose to go along with it anyway.

A doctrine needs to be thought out (mind) and written to convey (right hand).

 

[Jake99]

MrVersitile48,

I read your post mentioned above and it is right on target. I do disagree that Israel is in any way more than theoretical as far as being gods people, we are all gods people. God does not discriminate based on religion and all have been following the anti christ since the beginning of time. George Bush is in different but similar ways even more dangerous than Hitler, he is a wolf in a sheep suit. If you compare how he resolves problems VS how christ resolves problems you will find that they are complete opposites.

As far as the Iraqi blogs, it does not take a trip to the ghetto to figure out what is wrong with the planet and it all begins with a corruptible and inefficient operating system. If you change the operating system to what it recommends in the bible you won't get any complaints from people which is what I have demonstrated in this world already. At least a thousand people have worked for me and none have registered a complaint about the systems I used over three decades. I just did the right thing every time and the results were miraculous. Practice what you preach and believe in the word if you want what you are promised. Seek and you shall find is not a fairy tale. Be watchful and listen for the day of the lord is upon you.

 

[kerravon]

As far as the Iraqi blogs, it does not take a trip to the ghetto to figure out what is wrong with the planet and it all begins with a corruptible and inefficient operating system.

No Jake. We needed an explanation as to why ALL the Arab countries were dictatorships, while the West are all democracies. Was there something genetic about Arabs that prevented a decent democratic government from flourishing? The answer was DESPERATELY NEEDED in order to prevent the Iraqis from losing their human rights again. The answer was in the Iraqi blogs. You had no interest at all in solving this crucial problem. You aren't the Messiah, Jake. You're just another communist who thinks if only it is "done right" it will be successful. Like I keep telling you, you can implement communism on top of a capitalist society. You can start a hippy farm without restriction. Show the hippy farms how to be successful and everyone will willingly sign up to your great new system. In the meantime, you should be trying to export the PROVEN TECHNOLOGY of the West into the Middle East, so that human rights and standard of living can be secured. You aren't doing this. You weren't on the Iraqi blogs. You aren't the Messiah, Jake.

 

[Jake99]

Kerravon,

Spreading western technology to the world is my objective and it cuts through all the red tape that your beloved and inefficient system uses. I am all for democracy as long as it is environmentally friendly. Just because you vote to dump raw sewerage into the canals of Venice does not mean its ok. And if you own land then you can misuse it, which means the end of the lines on the map. I have no problem with competing for better luxuries but no way will you waste energy, resources and manpower on fruitless and destructive things like the stock market. My supervisory performance is heavily documented 24/7/365 for 21 years and the only thing I produced was peace, prosperity and long life. This I did in many places that were once the chaos your system generated. I don't want a dictatorship, I just want the truth and the way just like it says in the bible and if that is Communism then that is Communism. I assume you are a Christian. Don't get me wrong the US has done many, many, many good things the hard way to make it a better place for all of us. I want to spread technology at an unheard of rate and get simple and efficient which is my specialty. No one in all of time has posted the numbers that I have and they are all way beyond what my predecessors and competitors were able to do. I am and have always been outside the box that this world has limited itself to. The Eastern world needs the help of the Western world in much bigger ways and with a sense of urgency. I can stop the terrorists tomorrow and that includes the polluters and the salesman.

 

[kerravon]

Spreading western technology to the world is my objective

Your primary objective SHOULD be to spread human rights to the world. Western technology is spread automatically already. It's human rights that need your care and attention. And as I said before, when you were most needed, you weren't there in the Iraqi blogs. I was, you weren't.

I just want the truth and the way just like it says in the bible and if that is Communism then that is Communism.

As I have already explained, Communism has already been proven to be a failure. And if you still don't accept the verdict of decades of testing, feel free to implement it in a hippy farm. Don't just sit there advocating a useless system while the far more important human rights of innocent Iranians et al are being violated.

I assume you are a Christian.

I'm not a Christian, I'm God. The Christian bible is way too inadequate. Jesus never bothered to outlaw slavery, causing centuries of horror. And he never specified when to fight either. FIGHT SUBJUGATION is missing.

 

[MrVersatile48]

5 MORE USEFUL LINKS IN HERE..

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... 199#219199 8-)

Having just read the 1st link, the Beast will be intellectually brilliant: HRH is widely assessed as an idiot who talks to his plants & falls for every flaky New Age - (= ancient occult, merely spin-doctored!) - wind of doctrine :

 

[Vic C.]

I assume you are a Christian.

I'm not a Christian, I'm God. The Christian bible is way too inadequate. Jesus never bothered to outlaw slavery, causing centuries of horror. And he never specified when to fight either. FIGHT SUBJUGATION is missing.

One more comment like the one above and you will not be allowed to post in this forum anymore. :x Subjugate that! :-?