Slain in the Spirit

[Free]

Try and understand, that what God does not promote is not of God.

No one is saying that he does. You are the one presuming that being slain in the Spirit is not of God. Your position

For instance, does God promote you being bathed in hot boiling oil ? And if you see a group , that calls themselves christian, boiling people alive in hot oil. And then you claim that the word is silent on this, so it must be okay for them to boil people in hot boiling oil. I would think you are mad for even considering this to be okay, just because the Word is silent on this matter.

And it doesn't say anything about using computers, the Internet, cars, etc., so they must be wrong since the bible is silent on the matter. We should all be writing on papyrus, wearing sandals and walking on dusty roads everywhere we go. :gah Let's use some common sense here.

Edited to add: Your analogy would fall under the "Do not murder" category, so the Bible actually isn't silent on the matter.

Those who are ignorant of the scriptures, will allow themselves to believe just about anything. And this is true of people who allow themselves to be slain in the spirit. They are being slain by a devil spirit, and not the One True God, who is the Holy Spirit.

And, again, you have not proved this point; indeed, you can't.

Why do you think the apostle Paul constantly said - "I would not have you ignorant brethren" ? That which is not promoted by God is not of God. People then accept false doctorine or false beliefs not based upon the Word of God, and that which God promotes. They are devil spirit influences and devil spirit promotions.

Conjecture.

Even laughing out of control, is not of the One true God.

Conjecture.

The bottom line is this --- Do that which God promotes, and do not do that which God does not promote !

The bottom line is that you have not backed up your initial argument in the slightest and your position is based entirely on presumption and is quite unreasonable.

 

[Mysteryman]

Quote Free : "And it doesn't say anything about using computers, the Internet, cars, etc., so they must be wrong since the bible is silent on the matter. We should all be writing on papyrus, wearing sandals and walking on dusty roads everywhere we go. Let's use some common sense here."


Hi Free


Yes, when would be a good time to start using some common sense ? I always wondered why people who do not use common sense, always suggest the other start using common sense. Bewildering isn't it ?

Peach to all nations -- Would not computers and internet fall into preaching to all nations ? Sure saves traveling time and expense !

Lets not forget phones as well - :yes

 

[Vic C.]

In Revelation, it says that John fell to the ground like a dead man when he was in the presence of an angel. Now that was just an angel! Can you imagine if the Holy Spirit of God manifests in your presence with all his Glory and touches you (figuratively) that you would not fall down in the weight of that Glory? The power of God knocks that flesh right out. I've been slain in the Spirit during worship when nobody touched me at all but God Himself. The worship was so intense and God inhabits the praises of His people. I got so full of God I got knocked out! (I'm a pretty radical worshipper, I love to sing the praises of my God). Now I wasn't unconscious or anything, I was just bathing in the Love of God.

No offense, but it sounds more like a emotional experience over and above a spiritual experience.

To quote the late Adrian Rogers:

"A spiritual experience is more than just an emotional burp."

We do have a fine example in the Bible concerning what happens when the Spirit is laid upon mere mortals:

John 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
John 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

Now I didn't quote it all because you all can read the rest. Then, you may come back and tell us if they too rolled around similar to what we witness today. I can tell you that nowhere does it say they buckled under the weight of God's Holy Spirit.

All this Latter Rain stuff is man-made. Sorry, but most of what happened in Acts 2 was for their day, not ours. Peter was quoting Joel and proclaiming a (mostly) fulfilled prophecy. :yes

 

[Free]

Quote Free : "And it doesn't say anything about using computers, the Internet, cars, etc., so they must be wrong since the bible is silent on the matter. We should all be writing on papyrus, wearing sandals and walking on dusty roads everywhere we go. Let's use some common sense here."


Hi Free


Yes, when would be a good time to start using some common sense ? I always wondered why people who do not use common sense, always suggest the other start using common sense. Bewildering isn't it ?

Yes, it is. Are you going to address my points?

 

[Mysteryman]

Quote Free : "And it doesn't say anything about using computers, the Internet, cars, etc., so they must be wrong since the bible is silent on the matter. We should all be writing on papyrus, wearing sandals and walking on dusty roads everywhere we go. Let's use some common sense here."


Hi Free


Yes, when would be a good time to start using some common sense ? I always wondered why people who do not use common sense, always suggest the other start using common sense. Bewildering isn't it ?

Yes, it is. Are you going to address my points?

Read this please Free


Jesus Christ warned us in Matthew 24:24

Again Jesus speaking - John 4:48

And you would think that II Thess 2:9 would be enough of a warning , but if these are not enough, then what about I Timothy 4:1 - "seducing spirits" ?

And what about I Peter 5:8 - "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" < To be sober is to be aware or wide awake. I Thess 5:6 - "Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober"

Romans 12:3 - "but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith"

I Thess. 5:8 - "But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith, and love ; and for an helmit, the hope of salvatin"

If these are not enough, I can come up with more scripture than this.

For instance Jeremiah 14:14 - "Then the Lord said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name : I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them : they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart"

Or, how about one who was possessed with a spirit of divination (spiritual deceit) who even claimed that the apostles were servants of the most high God ? -> Acts 16:16 - 17


Bless

 

[Mysteryman]

Hi Free

Lets turn this around for a moment, shall we ?

If you are saying that being slain in the Spirit, is of God. Then by all means show from scripture where it is from the one true God. I want detailed scripture showing that being slain in the Spirit is of God.

Bless

 

[Free]

Quote Free : "And it doesn't say anything about using computers, the Internet, cars, etc., so they must be wrong since the bible is silent on the matter. We should all be writing on papyrus, wearing sandals and walking on dusty roads everywhere we go. Let's use some common sense here."


Hi Free


Yes, when would be a good time to start using some common sense ? I always wondered why people who do not use common sense, always suggest the other start using common sense. Bewildering isn't it ?

Yes, it is. Are you going to address my points?

Read this please Free


Jesus Christ warned us in Matthew 24:24

Again Jesus speaking - John 4:48

And you would think that II Thess 2:9 would be enough of a warning , but if these are not enough, then what about I Timothy 4:1 - "seducing spirits" ?

And what about I Peter 5:8 - "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" < To be sober is to be aware or wide awake. I Thess 5:6 - "Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober"

Romans 12:3 - "but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith"

I Thess. 5:8 - "But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith, and love ; and for an helmit, the hope of salvatin"

If these are not enough, I can come up with more scripture than this.

For instance Jeremiah 14:14 - "Then the Lord said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name : I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them : they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart"

Or, how about one who was possessed with a spirit of divination (spiritual deceit) who even claimed that the apostles were servants of the most high God ? -> Acts 16:16 - 17


Bless

Again, this doesn't prove anything regarding your initial argument.

Hi Free

Lets turn this around for a moment, shall we ?

If you are saying that being slain in the Spirit, is of God. Then by all means show from scripture where it is from the one true God. I want detailed scripture showing that being slain in the Spirit is of God.

Bless

It is apparent that you are not at all following what I my argument. I have clearly stated, as have you, that the Bible says nothing on being slain in the Spirit. My main point with this was that it is fallacious to therefore conclude that it isn't of God, as you have done. This is all I have said.

 

[Mysteryman]

Quote Free : " My main point with this was that it is fallacious to therefore conclude that it isn't of God, as you have done. This is all I have said."


Hi Free


Yes, I know

Now show that it is of God.

All the scriptures I have given show clear evidence that being slain in the Spirit is being an example of possession. You loose your faculties by being slain in the Spirit.

Now , if you are going to defend being slain in the Spirit. Please show us from scripture , where what I have shared is wrong.

 

[Free]

Yes, I know

Now show that it is of God.

All the scriptures I have given show clear evidence that being slain in the Spirit is being an example of possession. You loose your faculties by being slain in the Spirit.

Now , if you are going to defend being slain in the Spirit. Please show us from scripture , where what I have shared is wrong.

You are wrong because demonic possession does not prove that being slain in the Spirit is not of God. This is another error in logic.

 

[Mysteryman]

Yes, I know

Now show that it is of God.

All the scriptures I have given show clear evidence that being slain in the Spirit is being an example of possession. You loose your faculties by being slain in the Spirit.

Now , if you are going to defend being slain in the Spirit. Please show us from scripture , where what I have shared is wrong.

You are wrong because demonic possession does not prove that being slain in the Spirit is not of God. This is another error in logic.

Hi Free

Says who ?

 

[Free]

Yes, I know

Now show that it is of God.

All the scriptures I have given show clear evidence that being slain in the Spirit is being an example of possession. You loose your faculties by being slain in the Spirit.

Now , if you are going to defend being slain in the Spirit. Please show us from scripture , where what I have shared is wrong.

You are wrong because demonic possession does not prove that being slain in the Spirit is not of God. This is another error in logic.

Hi Free

Says who ?

Logic/rational thought.

 

[Mysteryman]

Now show that it is of God.

All the scriptures I have given show clear evidence that being slain in the Spirit is being an example of possession. You loose your faculties by being slain in the Spirit.

Now , if you are going to defend being slain in the Spirit. Please show us from scripture , where what I have shared is wrong.[/quote]
You are wrong because demonic possession does not prove that being slain in the Spirit is not of God. This is another error in logic.[/quote]
Hi Free

Says who ?[/quote]
Logic/rational thought.[/quote]


Hi Free

I mean no disrespect. But whoes logical/rational thought ? God's ? Man's ? Religious affiliation ?

 

[jasoncran]

does a person that is slain in the spirit praise the lord for whatever he asked for? or that he was in a trial and is depressed and now his spirit is blessed?

no demon would praise the Lord in church if they were in a person. that name above names put fear in them.

i have been slain in the spirit.

nothing of the sort like a demonic possession.

a fellow christian was a bus driver for yrs and would often mention this story of a kid that was possesed.
this child was hell on wheels on the bus and would bully the others. the christian(millie) cried out to the Lord in frustation and that child then shook and turned white. and asked did you just say the name Jesus. and Millie said yes, the kid said( the spirit in him) i will make a deal with you, if you dont call that name in front of me.or mention him i will be nice. she agreed.and that demon kept the deal. he also told her i know that the holy spirit is in you.


whenever the kid would run into millie the conservation was always polite. with demonic possesion the possesed must want to be free, and if i recall that boy didnt want to be free for that demon did leave him and millie asked him if he wanted to be free of that demon. the boy said he makes me feel good and gives me power.

 

[Free]

Says who ?

Logic/rational thought.

Hi Free

I mean no disrespect. But whoes logical/rational thought ? God's ? Man's ? Religious affiliation ?

Why do you assume there is a difference?

 

[faithtransforms]

Being slain in the spirit is devilish . It causes deception and sometimes devil spirit possession. Even if only temporary. Or if just for the purpose to deceive.

It deceives people into falling in love with Jesus? Hmmmm.... sounds counter productive.

Exactly Aaron, exactly. When I got baptized in the HS, I became a gospel preaching soul winner. (And no, it wasn't the prosperity gospel either, I don't even think I knew the prosperity gospel then). Being slain in the Spirit is just a bonus. An elder in my church calls it basking in the "Son" shine. And that's exactly what it is, bathing in the presence of God.

 

[jasoncran]

obviously you havent exercience that yet, faith, its more than that. being layed out as falling down becuase he is near you, hard to put in words.

i have been hit like that once or twice.

 

[Mysteryman]

obviously you havent exercience that yet, faith, its more than that. being layed out as falling down becuase he is near you, hard to put in words.

i have been hit like that once or twice.

Would someone be willing to show me the profit from falling down ? Not an opinion, but a biblical reference of the profit of such an happening.

 

[Free]

Would someone be willing to show me the profit from falling down ? Not an opinion, but a biblical reference of the profit of such an happening.

I am not sure how many more times are necessary to tell you that there is no reference in Scripture to such an event. You've even said so yourself, so why do you keep asking?

 

[Mysteryman]

Would someone be willing to show me the profit from falling down ? Not an opinion, but a biblical reference of the profit of such an happening.

I am not sure how many more times are necessary to tell you that there is no reference in Scripture to such an event. You've even said so yourself, so why do you keep asking?

Hi Free


Because ---- All scripture is profitable for doctrine, reproof, and correction, which is instruction in righteousness

 

[Free]

Would someone be willing to show me the profit from falling down ? Not an opinion, but a biblical reference of the profit of such an happening.

I am not sure how many more times are necessary to tell you that there is no reference in Scripture to such an event. You've even said so yourself, so why do you keep asking?

Hi Free


Because ---- All scripture is profitable for doctrine, reproof, and correction, which is instruction in righteousness

Yes, I agree; no one is saying otherwise. But that has nothing to do with your argument and its lack of support. It is error to use that verse to support any notion that every spiritual experience or every way in which God speaks and ministers to believers must therefore be found in the Bible or it is not of God.