Bible Study Spirit Taught Knowledge

[Soul man]

An absolute shocker! And an absolute relief.

I cried for 2 weeks straight, like a baby. It was like being born again, again. I mentioned in a previous post that I don't hear God talk to me like some claim God talks to them.
But I have had some wonderful experiences, one was my conversion, and then when I had a revelation of the Christ in me, Gal. 1:15-16.
Let me say your testimony of what you went through is powerful to the grace of God.
I stayed away from the church for about a year, all the while being rebuked by any number that had followed my ministry up until then. I was anywhere from being of the devil, to a heritic, to just plain deceived and needed to get back on track. This is happening all while the lord is opening up a new world I never new existed.
There is another world, be it spirit world, it is a world.
I came off the streets of SoCal and had witnessed unbelievable things, knew nothing of a God one day to preaching hell so hot you could feel the flames the next.
Long story short I became a money preacher, I used what I learned from the street to manipulate people just for money. It's hard to talk about because I had a serious problem, I loved God.
What He had done for me know one would ever know. You could try to give a testimony but there is no way to express what God had really done.
But I knew, He knew and when I talk about grace I know a little about it. Through it all, I quit, I quit ministry, I quit manipulating, I quit everything but God my Father.
I promised if He could use me I would, a week later a friend called wanted me to do an open air (outside) meeting. I agreed, she wanted to introduce me to a fella by the name of Tony.
I preached 'entering the rest' I could tell Tony could really careless.
After the meeting she introduced us and we began to chat. What was strange about this guy was he didn't care about all the religious jargon, he had one thing on his mind and that was to minister Christ to me. I saw it, it opened up, I had a revelation of the Christ that had been in me since the moment I believed.
It is not just me, it is happening all over the world. There is a fellowship of believers that come together based solely on the Christ in you. We meet at the 1st of next month in Dallas Tx. People from all over the world come to fellowship, it is a powerful thing to be in the midst of a group that see Christ in each other.
It is the Father's intention from the foundation of the world.
The atmosphere is absolutely electric, I have been involved for over 20 years now and have met some wonderful people that simply see Christ as their life as well as the life of every believer.

 

[Hermit]

Thanks for sharing that great story. The Spirit definitely shifts us from old to new, sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly, but the shift is profoundly doubtless and True. Even for the smallest revelation, there is no halfway, we are either injected with Truth or not at all. There is no such thing as a half-truth, because a half-truth is a deception in itself. It really is black or white.

I am happy that the fellowship meeting, next month in Dallas, exists. Hopefully one will occur where I am, near Byron Bay.

 

[Soul man]

I have been living in silence (no TV/radio) since the above revelation.

Solitude is a powerful thing, you can be anywhere, doing or not doing anything, and have the peace that passes all understanding.
Aloneness is far different than loneliness, they are at different ends of the spectrum.
Where do you reside if you don't mind me asking.
The prison ministry has had its rewards, alot of the guys/girls because of their time developing solitude have come to great understanding.
They become the ministers, we provide matls that proclaims the liberating secret of Christ in the believer. But they do the work, they hold the meeting, they have meeting separate from the religious institutions that come in. Of course all are welcome.
The matls we send in, we have labeled our 'Life in the Son' magazine our missionary.
The little magazine that is made up of writers, writing about this life we have in Christ has reached a hungry world.
The magazine reachs into the prisons and many many of them can see Christ now.
It's not just prisons, testimonies come in all the time "I was in a doctors office and found one.
One fella wrote he found one in a trash can, and it speaks to them. On and on it goes. Were worldwide but relatively small, I could not say a number, their are folks I don't even know, it's a God thing.

 

[Hermit]

Local prison is too far for me to travel without a car, which I do not have (too poor). I cycle everywhere.

My mission for past 25 years is visiting various AA meetings throughout most weeks. Most newcomers to AA are extremely shy to the word God, so I always refer God as Truth, which is what they can accept, because they all know that AA is a program of honesty. Most old-timers embrace God (of their understanding) and they can understand the concept of Truth.

I am used to being alone. I am an only child of an abusive alcoholic father. So to be incognito (out of sight out of mind) I stayed in my room in silence. Drawing was my companion and art therapy without knowing it. To go in and out of my room, for over ten years, I would use the window. Dinner time was always a problem.

Since seven, when introduced to God at school I wanted God to be my Father. However, I was told that only martyrs could go straight to the Father. I was prepared to die to do so. But the Sunday school teacher missed my truth and quickly laughed and said that only special people can be martyrs. I was crest fallen, because I believed I was not special, but a mistake (shaming starts at home). So for the next twenty years I was a lost sheep bleeping everywhere. When I returned Home, via AA, I found Father again, and this time no person, place, thing, or situation will deter me from wanting to be of service to Him. Actually I have been in service, even while bleeping, because I needed these experiences to understand the deeper truths of bleeping and the cries of despair. It is in these depths that the desperate reside, and the hand of Christ in us needs to reach into (so to speak). It is the Truth, Christ in us, that can cut the deepest like a two-edged sword, cutting through all self-denial.

There is a coupling between knowing self-deception and knowing the Truth. All self-knowledge is the depths of self-denial, and all Spirit taught knowledge is the Truth. In this regard, any servant of Christ in us, becomes us in Christ, and the service comes from Christ and not from us. We are just the vehicle, the body of expression, expressing Christ in us by being us in Christ (cloaked in Christ).

 

[Soul man]

dirtfarmer here

It is my belief that there is knowledge given by the Spirit that does not necessarily come from scripture or revealed in scripture. God's power is revealed in nature but his love is not revealed there.

Soul man here

I just couldn't resist, thank you for your insight and understanding of the things that are taught to us by the HolySpirit.

I try keeping in mind when writing or just thinking on the things of God, there is 7000 we know nothing about that the lord has placed somewhere for His glory.
Seems things are opening up to people like never before, of coarse that is just a personal observation.
Based on meeting I'm involved in from time to time, some travels to minister, as well as this type of setting where everyone is in deep discussion and searching the scriptures.
I still believe that He fills the hungry, nothing like a hunger for the things of God. Taste and see' the scripture say, once you have tasted the things of God you are ruined, in a good way of coarse. Nothing can satisfy the longing soul like Jesus.
Wonderful is He, precious is the lover and bishop of our soul, bless you dear brother.

 

[Soul man]

Since seven, when introduced to God at school I wanted God to be my Father. However, I was told that only martyrs could go straight to the Father. I was prepared to die to do so. But the Sunday school teacher missed my truth and quickly laughed and said that only special people can be martyrs.

Nothing like a good dose of religion to keep you clawing through life searching for answers.
I believe that is one of the reasons it exists, it holds no real answers to the plight of mankind.
It can be for some like a spiders web, once caught no escape.
It's like a burning house it takes the real experts to get you out.
If I run in to save you, now we are both in trouble. Father, Son and HolySpirit is the only way out.
There is no other way, for centuries man has tryed to escape on their own, other have tryed to help.
There is only one way, and to go around that way will lead to a spiritual demise.

 

[Hermit]

This may sound terrible for some Christians, but I went on a marvelous weekend retreat some 25 years ago. The theme of the retreat was to find God of your own understanding, and not the one of wrath religious type which scared us away.

In short we had to kill that religious one off and replace it with one that suited us so we could embrace God instead of running away from Him. By the end of the retreat, the new God of my understanding still holds today. The image is my imagination of Uncreated Light which is The Source and Truth of All that is Real (GOD), and its expression is Unconditional Love. This understanding enlightens me, welcomes me, embraces me with such tenderness and warmth. Nobody can tell me differently and I do not expect anybody else to understand it. It is a personal understanding which fits me like a glove, and has never ever failed me, because it came from me (not from religion).

My default word for God is Truth, mainly because Truth has no human image for me. But the word God still presents a male father image which still associates me with my abusive biological father. I know God is not like my father, but after about twelve years of abuse its has not yet dissolved, though I have accepted it and forgiven my father for his own enslavement.

 

[for_his_glory]

Religion tells you what you can and cannot do and becomes socially acceptable by mans interpretations, traditions and doctrines. Religion is what nailed Christ to the cross because the Bible is not socially acceptable to society, if it were then Christ would have died in vain. God is not about mans religion, nor does he recognize organized religion. God is about a personal relationship with you and His son Jesus Christ. John 1:1-5; John 3:3-6; Romans 10:9, 10

The biggest deception Satan can use is to confuse the unlearned mind. God said his people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. You forget me and my word and I will forget you and your children. This is a pretty profound statement that holds so much truth. This is why this world is in the shape it is in today with so many religions claiming they are the true religion and only they will go to heaven and those who do not conform to their ways will go to hell. Hosea 4:6-9

Truth has now turned to deception of the carnal minds ways of thinking which produces mans interpretations, traditions of law and doctrine. Satan has such a foothold on religions and has side blinded all of us into believing whatever is taught behind the pulpit is truth because after all, they are the Priest, Rabbis, Pastors, etc. etc. and they should know what they are talking about because they are our teachers. Satan is pretty clever and the master of lies and deceit. 1 Peter 5:8-10; 1 Peter 4:11

We can be sure of what we are being taught by getting into the word for ourselves and allow the Holy Spirit teach us all things as only then will we know how to separate truth from error. The saddest part is that most teachers do not even realize they are preaching a different gospel as they teach through traditions and mans Internationale doctrines because they have become to lazy to dig for truth and want to give you what you want to hear and not what you need to hear. I praise God for the many times he has stepped on my toes and showed me what I needed to see even though it hurt seeing it, but it brought me into all truths, praise his glorious name, Amen. 2 Timothy 2:15, 16; Romans 15:18-21; 2 Corinthians 10:12, 13; 11:13,14; Galatians 1:6-8

 

[Soul man]

Religion tells you what you can and cannot do and becomes socially acceptable by mans interpretations, traditions and doctrines. Religion is what nailed Christ to the cross because the Bible is not socially acceptable to society, if it were then Christ would have died in vain. God is not about mans religion, nor does he recognize organized religion. God is about a personal relationship with you and His son Jesus Christ. John 1:1-5; John 3:3-6; Romans 10:9, 10

Religion can be a great blessing for a believer, if they come to see why it exists. Nothing exists if the Father has no use for it. All things are of God and are used as part of the school house.
Christians coming to understand there is something the Father wants, and He uses the school house on most occasions to get it.
When we try buck to the system is when it works against us.

 

[Soul man]

Picture the cocoon of a caterpillar, if is is broken away it is no good and the process will have to start over again.
Example; as a parent I have done this many times before, when the lord has my child where He wanted them, me too the rescue and the process has to start over again.
We want to be the savior of the world, of course that's a lie.
So life is very easily misinterpreted, therefore we miss what God is doing in the world.
Every individual experiences this no one is exempt.

 

[for_his_glory]

It's only when we have Spiritual eyes and ears that we can know for a surety that what we are being taught by others is truth and not of the traditional teachings of ones religious affiliation. To those who are yet on the milk of the word can be led astray from truth as I and many others were at one time. Each of us are an individual and our relationship with Christ is a personal one as no one comes to Jesus exactly the same way. God knows our heart and the intents there of as we humble ourselves before Him and seek His word in all truth.

There is a spirit of Jezebel (Church of Thyatira) that stands behind many pulpits and loves to teach a twisted word and can easily cause many to fall away from truth if they do not Spiritually guard themselves. The true Church of God (Church of Philadelphia) needs to step up and teach more about the Holy Spirit and how important it is to learn how to discern that of what is being taught whether it is truth or error.
John 14:26; Rev 2,3; 1 John 4:1-6

 

[Soul man]

There is a spirit of Jezebel (Church of Thyatira) that stands behind many pulpits and loves to teach a twisted word and can easily cause many to fall away from truth if they do not Spiritually guard themselves.

I understand what you are saying, but nothing the lord is doing in this world can be out done by anything or anyone.
The world works toward Gods purpose, all things in this world are of God.
Example; He uses all things to bring an individual to Christ and the same things work in the same life (Christian) to teach them Christ.
The wisdom of God is the only knowledge that works in this world.

 

[for_his_glory]

What God sets his hands to can not be changed as God knows who are His own. I would not say the world (people) works towards Gods purpose, but that Gods purpose works through His obedient servants in this world to bring about Gods favor in others. Many question God about their struggles in this life, but each struggle has a purpose to draw us even closer to God to know and understand the Spiritual things of God.

 

[dirtfarmer]

Picture the cocoon of a caterpillar, if is is broken away it is no good and the process will have to start over again.
Example; as a parent I have done this many times before, when the lord has my child where He wanted them, me too the rescue and the process has to start over again.
We want to be the savior of the world, of course that's a lie.
So life is very easily misinterpreted, therefore we miss what God is doing in the world.
Every individual experiences this no one is exempt.

hello Soul man, dirtfarmer here

It is so true that we hinder God's work in our children when we try to keep them from learning about God's way of discipline " by being a good parent". When we come to the place of understanding that God is "working on" our children, it is difficult to stand still and let God have his maturing (perfecting) process. We can be there to listen and give advice, but we should never interfer.

I agree that no one is exempt.

 

[Hermit]

Faith is the way to discerning what is true in all things true.

God's work is done when we are faithful to what is true at the time.
Regardless of who, what, when, why and where of being a parent, if the parent is faithful to what is true, they will respond according to God's will. To interfere or not depends on God's will for us to be faithful to what is true.

 

[new covenant preacher]

Isn't that a shame? Scripture sure does talk about revelation from the Spirit quite a bit. I think a lot of people are so scared of being deceived that when truth comes, they can't receive it. They typically fall back to either, show me in scripture, or science says it can't be so. These same people usually are not the ones who read and study their scriptures, but do go to church and sunday school, and just believe what they're told so thereby put their faith in that man or woman rather than do the work of studying themselves. The science guys too, they're not scientists, no letters after their name, but the scientists speak so much scientific doubletalk and make it sound plausible, that they're willing to put their faith in them (men) and parrot what they say as fact. Many spiritual issues are spiritually discerned, so one has to take some of it in faith for now, until the Holy Spirit gives the revelation of knowledge which will then give us understanding. Sort of like how, little children simply accept what dad says with their wonderful leap of faith.

It seems to me that we have four ways of learning. Logic and reasoning, revelation from the Spirit, experience, and our senses.


I don't think I've ever seen revelation discussed here on this board. Probably a good thing because it wouldn't be accepted. Like you say, it seems to be a thing of the past. Maybe revelation is a hard thing to accept because we like to think that we know and are right? (vanity and pride). But unless we can throw off what we think we know (preconceived notions) and admit that we don't know much at all if anything...how can we remain teachable or even able to receive revelation. Perhaps that's what scripture means when it say we have to become as little children?

What an excellent synopsis of what is occurring within many churches today!


John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

The earnest (which is a down payment) of our inheritance with Christ, is that we are sealed with that holy Spirit of promise. The fulfillment of this contract is our redemption which is realized when Christ returns with our Salvation (Eph 1:13-14, Heb 9:28, 1 Peter 1:5).

2 Cor 1:21-22 Now he which establishes us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

And then shall the Son of man appear, and when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption is near (Luke 21:27-28).

Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Romans 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

He that endures until the end shall be saved, and to those that overcome the world and all of the deception in it, they shall be called the sons of God (Rev 21:7).

Those in Christ Jesus that are led by the Spirit of God, are the Sons of God (Rom 8:14). We are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, in order that we may have fellowship with Christ through the Spirit (1 Cor 1:9; Eph 3:5-12; Phl 2:1).

Romans 8:16 The Spirit of Christ beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

God would not tolerate idols or of the workers of iniquity to inhabit His temple; that is why they were put away and their house was declared desolate, and it is also the reason why we as followers of Christ, are now referred to as the people of God. We are commanded to come out from among those that are living lives unto idolatry, and we must put off iniquity. By doing so we become the Sons and Daughters of the Father (2 Cor 6:16-18).

Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

All that fulfill the Law of Christ, are the Israel of God (Gal 6:1-16).

 

[Hermit]

In regards to experiencing revelations, Spirit taught knowledge is revelation. It has to be, because the only thing the Spirit of Truth reveals is the Truth. It would not reveal anything else. Even if the Truth is already known, intellectually by us, the re-revealing of the Truth is always refreshing, because of it is pure and liberating.

God/Truth, as is, has no end, and eternal. Because of this, God is inconceivable to us.
When humbled to receive God's will (Truth), The Spirit of Truth, will reveal (make conceivable) what was hidden (the inconceivable) from us, i.e., God's will. Revelation is conceiving the inconceivable.