Teach them the beauty of guns

[jeff77]

Probably have to go with a cable lock brother. You could even make one. Measure the barrels, double the length plus add a few inches, have a hardware store crimp loops on the ends, paint the cable with the plastic dip that they sell for tools (good stuff, I've used it) and getcha' a padlock. Tada locked up from children.

I wonder if a gunsmith could do that for me? If it is difficult to make I don't want to get it wrong.

 

[jeff77]

Here is what I think about guns. Suppose at first that there is no such thing as guns and someone breaks into your home and viscously attacks your family using only their bare hands and feet. Would you respond by using your own bare hands and feet to stop them (not even necessarily killing them)? Or would you stand there and wait for God to act?

Second scenario, since guns do exist. If someone broke into your house and you know that people often rob armed with a gun. Do you think it might be a good idea to have a gun of your own to defend your family against another gunman? Or would you wait for God to act?

Third scenario. Let's say an armed intruder breaks into your home, but you manage to round up your wife and kids and hide in a place in your house where the intruder might not find you (and you have your cell phone on you). Would you call the police for help? If you would call the police for help but your against the use guns, then make sure and tell them to leave their guns at the station.

 

[Edward]

I wonder if a gunsmith could do that for me? If it is difficult to make I don't want to get it wrong.

Probably could. The hardest thing about it would be crimping the loops on the ends, or eyelets. They gotta be small enough to go through the barrel of course. Find a place that works with cables and they'll have the tools. Probably be 50 dollars cheaper too because it's not done by a gunsmith. Heck, maybe you can buy the crimper at home depot?

 

[Edward]

Ahh, here you go Jeff. Got a Harbor freight locally?

http://www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html

Lowes even sells pre coated cables.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_348294-40391-AC6015C_4294856656__?productId=4329371&Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&pl=1&currentURL=?Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&facetInfo=

After you're done making it, get a little extra hardware and start making them to sell to friends and neighbors to recoup your investment into the tooling, lol.

 

[jeff77]

Ahh, here you go Jeff. Got a Harbor freight locally?

http://www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html

Not sure, I will have to check. Thanks brother!

 

[Edward]

Glad I could help brother. Hey, hows this sound? "Jeffs custom cable locks" made to order!

 

[jeff77]

Glad I could help brother. Hey, hows this sound? "Jeffs custom cable locks" made to order!

Sounds good, but I am not familiar enough with that sort of thing. Is there already a such thing as custom cable locks?

 

[jasonc]

No.

then what would do? the officer who responded to that call is a saved man. he described how sharp the cut. one slice and it went through the chest to include the rib cage. the man died within 10 minutes.

 

[Edward]

Sounds good, but I am not familiar enough with that sort of thing. Is there already a such thing as custom cable locks?

There is if you have the tooling and hardware! lol. Sure. Maybe someone wants a teeny one for their derringer, or someone is making a rifle rack and wants to run a cable through all of the triggerguards, locked on both ends to the wall or whatever, or they have built up some star wars monstrosity of a weapon with a bunch of doo-dads on it and it will no longer take a conventional locking device for that reason, or want to be able to secure their gun to the floor so someone can't walk out with it and work on the cable elsewhere...

Security is big business nowadays. With all of the hardware available, you could make any kind, any length cable locking system, and with a minimum of tooling. You could make them to order and they will give you the specs. You might mess a couple up at first, but just cut the cable back a little and try again until you get it right. This would be a good side business. Different size cables, different eyelets, different lengths...made to order. Throw an ad on Craigslist and I bet you money you'd get calls on it.

 

[Classik]

Here is what I think about guns. Suppose at first that there is no such thing as guns and someone breaks into your home and viscously attacks your family using only their bare hands and feet. Would you respond by using your own bare hands and feet to stop them (not even necessarily killing them)? Or would you stand there and wait for God to act?

Second scenario, since guns do exist. If someone broke into your house and you know that people often rob armed with a gun. Do you think it might be a good idea to have a gun of your own to defend your family against another gunman? Or would you wait for God to act?

Third scenario. Let's say an armed intruder breaks into your home, but you manage to round up your wife and kids and hide in a place in your house where the intruder might not find you (and you have your cell phone on you). Would you call the police for help? If you would call the police for help but your against the use guns, then make sure and tell them to leave their guns at the station.

You are also missing the point. We don't need to make guns our hobby.

Why is it always Americans - mostly? Trace the root of the problem.

Israel's case is a different scenario. What is your defence?

 

[Classik]

Edward. You owe me a response.

 

[jasonc]

we don't to make guns hobby? ok.

I counter with soccer, no fighting in that game. same thing with any sport.

 

[Obadiah]

I'm just really having a hard time understanding what gives one person the right to decide what another person can enjoy as a legal hobby? Is that what the agape love that we are supposed to have for each other all about? Imposing our personal will and preferences on our brothers and sisters by prohibiting them from something they enjoy for no other reason than we don't personally enjoy the same thing? That sure seems to be the case here. If that's what agape love is all about, count me out.

 

[jasonc]

I'm just really having a hard time understanding what gives one person the right to decide what another person can enjoy as a legal hobby? Is that what the agape love that we are supposed to have for each other all about? Imposing our personal will and preferences on our brothers and sisters by prohibiting them from something they enjoy for no other reason than we don't personally enjoy the same thing? That sure seems to be the case here. If that's what agape love is all about, count me out.

I agree. I don't care for soccer, golf, bingo,and a host of boring sports. my, I don't play them, but if someone does, im not damning them for doing I don't like to do.

 

[Gary]

I'm just really having a hard time understanding what gives one person the right to decide what another person can enjoy as a legal hobby? Is that what the agape love that we are supposed to have for each other all about? Imposing our personal will and preferences on our brothers and sisters by prohibiting them from something they enjoy for no other reason than we don't personally enjoy the same thing? That sure seems to be the case here. If that's what agape love is all about, count me out.

Me too.
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[Classik]

we don't to make guns hobby? ok.

I counter with soccer, no fighting in that game. same thing with any sport.

Why do you keep mentioning soccer? Do you know you could be charged under Section 14.241Bet 22 of the soccer COC?

 

[Gary]

Edward. You owe me a response.

You owe me a few too...
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[Classik]

Here is what I think about guns. Suppose at first that there is no such thing as guns and someone breaks into your home and viscously attacks your family using only their bare hands and feet. Would you respond by using your own bare hands and feet to stop them (not even necessarily killing them)? Or would you stand there and wait for God to act?

Second scenario, since guns do exist. If someone broke into your house and you know that people often rob armed with a gun. Do you think it might be a good idea to have a gun of your own to defend your family against another gunman? Or would you wait for God to act?

Third scenario. Let's say an armed intruder breaks into your home, but you manage to round up your wife and kids and hide in a place in your house where the intruder might not find you (and you have your cell phone on you). Would you call the police for help? If you would call the police for help but your against the use guns, then make sure and tell them to leave their guns at the station.

You already made up your mind...not even the souls of our legendary Jugadores who have slept can change it

 

[Classik]

Someone asked a question which I will also ask here: how would the unbelievers and muslims view this?

I add: Should we discourage their use of it?

 

[Obadiah]

I also have to wonder about the wisdom some are proclaiming here of simply letting God defend us if attacked by another person instead of doing what we can first and then trusting God to take over where we can't do any more. Is that really what God wants of us? If so, well, Jesus said God would take care of all our daily needs, food, clothes, etc. Under this logic that means I shouldn't bother earning a living either. Why go to work when I'm supposed to trust God to give me all the things I need. Is that what some people here think is the way Christians are supposed to live? I guess so, since that's what's being preached here. You can count me out of that too. It never works out too well.