The abomination of desolation

[Elijah674]

to all who claim antichrist to have already been in history.

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Elijah here: It is the Godhead that DOCUMENTS Eccl. 3:15 for all savational issues. (not mankind) But as a faulty man (little 'i') perhaps some others are the problem in their understanding of the work of satan?? His work started in heaven.. anti/christ against the Godhead!
OK: could there be any work that was worse or more ANTI/CHRIST than that??? It caused the REBELLION in heaven to where there was %50 at perhaps one time in a severe TESTING, to where we see 1/3 finally rejected. (but no execution as of yet!) And the PLAN from the Godhead to soon have need to be implimented. Rev. 14:6 has it the EVERLASTING GOSPEL. (Christ to become the Son of God)

Now come on down to earth. Do we EVER see a time that there was not a war against [[[ANTI/CHRIST]]] Christ?? A REPEAT?? Eccl. 3:15. Think O.T.'s Ending & your question (or fact?) of the N.T.'s Ending? (same war, educated repeats, escalating in size & hate of Christ!)

It appears from my ending of understanding, that all that that God has documented is that satan has alway's been against Christ! [Anti/Christ] And I see two times that satan has been chosen over Christ by His very own Eph. 4:5 ONE FOLD. (Isa.5:3 & Rev. 3:16) His First Coming & His second coming + ALL OF THR REV. 17:1-5 ones!

OK: you can talk of the 70AD Slaughter(?) 39 years after Old Israel's [[MIDNIGHT CRY]], but it appears that the ANTICHRIST had already been choosen before that! Matt. 23:38, Matt. 10:5-6 + verse 15 Time/period. For Christ's FOLD to be TOTAL APOSTATE (we have NO KING BUT CEASAR) seems to me to be the worst fate that mankind could ever endure! Obadiah 1:16

And surely the LAND will be a central point of the End Issue for satan deception.
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If this had been true, then a couple of important thing would have happened :
1) fourth kingdom described in Revelations (which is his kingdom)
2)it must have ruined the world, unlike three previous (and at the end of its rule to set the world on fire - nuclear fire, fire from skies, sun in the night, call it whatever you want)
3)antichrist must have implanted his marks (microchips?) into men's right hands or foreheads
4)the most severe persecution of christians all around the world
5)and the most important: Christ would have been here with us

None of these occured. This fact sets the time of his reign to the future.

And counting events chronologically as written in Bible, the fourth kingdom is preceded by three other kingdoms but less horrifying.
In my opinion they are:
1)Napoleon's empire (not sure about it though, but quite possibly)
2)Soviet Union (fits description perfectly) - I'm sure about this one, that's definitely the second beast
3)Nazi Germany (fits description rather vaguely)
4)?

and since the fall of Soviet Union in 1991, no such powerful and human-hating country has existed.

 

[n2thelight]

It is a very simple story. It is a TRUE story. God said don't eat from one tree - but they ate. The moment Adam Ate, BOTH of them lost their glory. Both of them died in their spirit. And both of them began to die physically. Every child born to them, carried their sin and their sin nature. The entire human race was polluted - unfit for heaven - because of sin.

That is the true story; they disobeyed one simple rule: don't eat from one tree.

Coop

They ate a piece of fruit,and somehow this fruit opened their eye's that they were naked...Why didn't they cover their mouth with the fig leaves?

GodspromisesRyes

both seeds are spiritual! the woman is not a literal woman it is the CHURCH.

Rom 16:17 ¶ Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Rom 16:19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all [men]. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.

Genesis 3:13 "And the Lord God said unto the woman, "What is this that thou hast done?" And the woman said, "The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

Does this look like a church?Please!!!

A few verses later God is talking about child birth....

Genesis 3:16 "Unto the woman He said, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."

God knew that Eve was pregnant at this point....Do tell how did we all of a sudden get to,having children,from eating a piece of fruit???

This same false doctrine, just like all the others has been around and around and around. I am quite confident, if I knew where to look, that it was dismissed as false doctrine at some church counsel hundreds and hundreds of years ago.

Can you find just ONE (1) verse that tells us angels have children?

Read what is written:
Coop

Genesis 6:4 "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

What's the meaning of the below verse

I Corinthians 11:10 "For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels."

This is ALL FALSE DOCTRINE that has no basis in scripture.
Man fell because ADAM disobeyed God. The sin was in the disobedience.
Angels (including Satan) do not have offspring. They do not have wives or concubines.
The entire idea that angels mated with flesh and blood human women is FALSE DOCTRINE.

Coop

Only because you have not eye's to see,...

It is amazing that Jude 14 records that ENOCH was the SEVENTH from Adam, which confirms that CAIN was really not the son of Adam, but the SON of the SERPENT. The genealogies of ADAM was on this wise : (1) Adam, (2) Seth, (3) Enos, (4) Cainan, (5) Mahaleel, (6) Jared, (7) Enoch. Notice that Cain was never mentioned in the list of the Bible as a son of Adam; and Abel, of course, was never mentioned because he was murdered by Cain, and did not have any descendant.


"And Adam and Eve heard the
Voice of The Lord and they were
ashamed and covered themselves
with fig leaves."

The shame of Adam and Eve clearly shows a new "knowledge" and awareness of sexuality and their own nakedness. Now let's look at what happened next.

"And the Lord said unto the
woman, "You shall have pain
in childbirth and your desire
shall be towards your husband."

The Punishment upon Eve (womenhood) was pain in childbirth. This seems directly linked to sexual intercouse and pregnancy. Also her "desire" is to bear her husband's children yet have to endure this great suffering to do so. This "curse" provides more proof that "eating the forbidden fruit" does represent SEX.

Again I ask what were the two different tree's in the Garden...

 

[Elijah674]

And PS:
'THE BLIND LEAD THE BLIND AND THEY ALL FALL INTO THE 'ETERNAL' DITCH OF OBADIA 1:16.
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Elijah here: It is the Godhead that DOCUMENTS Eccl. 3:15 for all savational issues. (not mankind) But as a faulty man (little 'i') perhaps some others are the problem in their understanding of the work of satan?? His work started in heaven.. anti/christ against the Godhead!
OK: could there be any work that was worse or more ANTI/CHRIST than that??? It caused the REBELLION in heaven to where there was %50 at perhaps one time in a severe TESTING, to where we see 1/3 finally rejected. (but no execution as of yet!) And the PLAN from the Godhead to soon have need to be implimented. Rev. 14:6 has it the EVERLASTING GOSPEL. (Christ to become the Son of God)

Now come on down to earth. Do we EVER see a time that there was not a war against [[[ANTI/CHRIST]]] Christ?? A REPEAT?? Eccl. 3:15. Think O.T.'s Ending & your question (or fact?) of the N.T.'s Ending? (same war, educated repeats, escalating in size & hate of Christ!)

It appears from my ending of understanding, that all that that God has documented is that satan has alway's been against Christ! [Anti/Christ] And I see two times that satan has been chosen over Christ by His very own Eph. 4:5 ONE FOLD. (Isa.5:3 & Rev. 3:16) His First Coming & His second coming + ALL OF THR REV. 17:1-5 ones!

OK: you can talk of the 70AD Slaughter(?) 39 years after Old Israel's [[MIDNIGHT CRY]], but it appears that the ANTICHRIST had already been choosen before that! Matt. 23:38, Matt. 10:5-6 + verse 15 Time/period. For Christ's FOLD to be TOTAL APOSTATE (we have NO KING BUT CEASAR) seems to me to be the worst fate that mankind could ever endure! Obadiah 1:16

And surely the LAND will be a central point of the End Issue for satan deception.

 

[johnny botwright]

cain satans seed?

The second reason is that Genesis 4:1 contradicts what you say about Cain being Satan's son: Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. Firstly this verse states that Adam knew his wife intimately and then she bore him a son. Secondly Eve, herself, tells us this son was from the Lord. You have to really twist scripture, or ignore it, to make it read as anything else.




Notice that Eve did not say the same concerning Abel who was born at the same time, for he came second.

Cain and Abel were fraternal twins, conceived in close association of time, but from different donars.

All that Eve was expressing is that Life came through God.

There are many that will disagree with this, but the evidence is in the day that Cain and Abel went before God to worship, for they went up at the same time because they came of age at the same time.

Abel was of the seed of Adam whom God had planted in the earth and God had respect unto his offering, but Cain was of the seed of Satan (hybrid) and God had no respect unto him.

Jesus Himself stated that the Pharisees in the time that He walked the earth as the son of man, were the offspring of Cain (the first murder) and that their father (as Cain) was the devil (deceiver) or Satan.

Argue as you will concerning the translations of the Chaldee language in Genesis, but you cannot argue that which the Lord made known Himself.


Many claim that (the serpent seed doctrine) is a "Strange" doctrine and should not be listened to.

What is strange unto me is that Moses wrote concerning it, the prophets spoke of it, Jesus supported it, and Paul warned of it, but the Church will not even consider it.
its new to me, johnny

 

[Elijah674]

No offense meant. But God's Word teach's NOTHING THAT IS SALVATIONAL IS NEW! Eccl. 3:15 by the bunchs! Even Heb. 6:6 has [REPEATS!]

--Elijah