The Baptism that saves us Now

[GodsGrace]

Note: Im a learner trying things on. Here to discuss with those that want to come to an answer.

The more I see 1 Peter 3:21 from surrounding passages. I am coming to believe that the baptism that saves us now is: God ____________________________________


Now First thing I probably need to look up is the term itself. But instead I am going to make a claim and either prove it true or false. With others who are searching for truth.

My answer is quickened by the " Spirit"

Which makes the presence of God our baptism
1 Peter 3 kjv

and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death* in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein* few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us* (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him
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Verse 16 is about having a good conscience before man or God? My guess is man.. if you do what is right and someone accuse you the accuser should be ashamed.

So a good conscience before man is in -your righteous acts before man

He went to preach to the souls in prison because He was quickened by the Spirit vs 18

(One way I see that is by Him setting captives free.)

The reason I crossed out the passage is because they were all prepositions

So then we can automatically connect vs 18 to 21

But quickened By the Spirit...... the baptism doth also save us

Remember the so called great commission
Surround(baptise, identify, immerse)them in the presence of the holy trinity ( the name of the father, son, and holy ghost)

Ok Jesus was quicken by who? The SPIRIT

Question? Was removal of dirt off the skin ritual washings? Well what would be our ritual washing that gives us a clear conscience before God? JESUS Christ the resurrected.>>>>Christ Jesus

So is this talking about being baptized into His Death, or being immersed into His life?

But quickened by the Spirit, is the like figure...." "BUT" quickened by the Spirit>>the baptism that saves us.

Jesus said He always did what was pleasing to the father and the father never left Him alone.

John 15
Abide

Righteous acts before man are only done in Christ- as we submit our bodies dead.
As our hearts are purified by obeying the word.

Wait but righteous acts before God are caused by God based on the Love of God all found in Christ.

yet if our bodies our dead then the only way to live is by His life....So what does it mean to walk in the newness of life? One It shows whereever Jesus is we are, ruling with Him, next to the father ...Alive by the Spirit. Immersed in the presence of The holy trinity.

So if we are walking in the newness of life we are living by the power of the Holyghost. GOD who has manifested Himself in three distinct persons.




Just remember im trying this on...so don't eat me alive scholars.

The Baptism that saves is God.
God is I am that I am.
So Is God his presence? I'd like to think so

So lets use what is new to me Identification

Recall there where to words that were under baptism- to temporarily dip, and one that had to do with permanent change.

So dip the pickle in boiling water and immerse it in vinegar...recall from other post

What did the pickle identify with when it was permanently changed? The vinegar Solution?

IF WE STAY SURROUNDED IN THE PRESENCE OF God (his life)what would we identify with?

His Glory?
His Peace?
His Love?
His Joy?
His patience

And who can eat from these fruits people

In the end I believe the prefigured baptism is the quickening by the Holy Spirit.

And the Baptism is God (or God's life)who gives us a clear conscience before God..

Romans 5:10
For if when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life

My thoughts GodsGrace

I just saw the above.
Later...

 

[Corinth77777]

1 Peter 3 kjv

and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak

How does one have a good conscience- being committed following Christ's example- one is quickened made alive

evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death* in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein* few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us* (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him
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The answer of a good conscience would be life.
Life from a quickening Spirit.

A quickening Spirit quickens our Spirit

The like figure is symbolic of verse 18- so water baptism is the like figure of the reality of Being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the Spirit.

And if the word is "appeal" instead of "answer"
I recall a statement ->what will you give me so that I will know this is true.

Now sense Baptism is seen as what one identifies with from how the term was used back when:

Then we can say that what you identify with saves you. Almost like from faith to faith

So while I can Identify with Him through the symbol of water Baptism which may be the way people can help to explain what takes place.

I can also have identified with Christ when I had commited myself to His teachings.

In the End it is God who saves through our identification with His sons life on earth.

This just came to me how God walked through some doves..let me find scripture ...John 15:10-12.. ill read it later. But I have a feeling this may help me understand the details.







Its not water that saves but God that can use the water to Save. God saves.

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