The Battle of Armageddon

[Alfred Persson]

Why don't you explain yourself so that all may see...

The "Strong Delusion" is the Satanic lie that will deceive the earth that the "man of sin, son of destruction" false Christ, is "the Christ".

Then, after 3.5 years, after "ancient alien theory" replaces all belief in God, and the False Christ reveals he is the "seed of Satan", and the entire world believes the falsehood preached by the "evil Trinity", that Yahweh God is an oppressive Extraterrestrial Overlord who can be defeated at Armageddon by the Dragon and his Nephilim Army, combined with the Antichrist Beast's Army:

Then, after 3.5 years, after "ancient alien theory" replaces all belief in God, and the False Christ reveals he is the "seed of Satan", and the entire world believes the falsehood preached by the "evil Trinity", that Yahweh God is an oppressive Extraterrestrial Overlord who can be defeated at Armageddon by the Dragon and his Nephilim Army, combined with the Antichrist Beast's Army:

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 "Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame."
16 And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon. (Rev. 16:13-16 NKJ)

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And for this reason God will send them strong (1753 ἐνέργεια energeia) delusion, that they should believe the lie, (2 Thess. 2:11 NKJ) God sends "the energy of delusion" so those who did not receive love of God's Truth (the Bible) will believe "the BIG LIE" (2 Thess. 2:11-12), the miracle...

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[reddogs]

You were good till 'after 3.5 years, after "ancient alien theory"...... none of which is scriptural, and some might say not even Christian...

 

[Shilohsfoal]

The United States wasnt even around when they started fighting, this is from ancient times..

The prophecies written in ancient times about the time of the end are about the time of the end when the United states polices the world as it does today.

Let ten Muslims nations attack Israel and overcome Israel and watch what the US does to them.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

And wont because it is a battle between good and evil, the ending of the conflict that began in heaven between God and the Dragon, the devil...

Revelation 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

This is the war of armegeddon

Daniel 11:40-12:2

40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him

12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

 

[reddogs]

This is the war of armegeddon

Daniel 11:40-12:2

40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him

12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

As I said, a battle between good and evil, Satan leading his minions against Christ and His angels, as He comes to take us to His heavenly kingdom to be with Him...

 

[Shilohsfoal]

As I said, a battle between good and evil, Satan leading his minions against Christ and His angels, as He comes to take us to His heavenly kingdom to be with Him...

There's nothing good about the king of the north or the king of the south. The word of God says they both lie.

 

[reddogs]

There's nothing good about the king of the north or the king of the south. The word of God says they both lie.

Atheist and Pagans both are haters of God, but they come from different views, but they both lie.

 

[DavidT]

The Bible puts the Battle of Armageddon before the New Jerusalem comes down as Revelation is clear that is when the wicked meet their end in the Lake of Fire.

That idea in red of course is not written.

The battle of Armageddon is shown in Rev.16 to occur on the very last Vial, the 7th Vial, which is timed with the 7th Trumpet, because just prior to that, on the 6th Vial, Lord Jesus is warning His Church that He comes "as a thief".

These Revelation 16 verses reveal Jesus comes on the 7th Vial and ends this present world...

Rev 16:15-21
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And He gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
KJV

Then... immediately after that, begins Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect saints, per Revelation 20. And the wicked that are left, and those of raised of the "resurrection of damnation", are NOT cast into the "lake of fire" until AFTER that "thousand years" reign by Christ and His elect.

To claim that all the wicked and deceived are destroyed on the day of Christ's future coming is a doctrine of man called Amillennialism that began to be pushed into the Church in the 2nd century A.D. The 1st century Christian Church did not hold to that doctrine. And the reason should be simple, because it is nowhere written of in God's Word. One who believes it must omit much of Bible prophecy about the end, and many try to do that with applying false speculation with twisting the written Scripture to try and make it conform to their Amillennialist theories.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

That idea in red of course is not written.

The battle of Armageddon is shown in Rev.16 to occur on the very last Vial, the 7th Vial, which is timed with the 7th Trumpet, because just prior to that, on the 6th Vial, Lord Jesus is warning His Church that He comes "as a thief".

These Revelation 16 verses reveal Jesus comes on the 7th Vial and ends this present world...

Rev 16:15-21
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And He gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
KJV

Then... immediately after that, begins Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect saints, per Revelation 20. And the wicked that are left, and those of raised of the "resurrection of damnation", are NOT cast into the "lake of fire" until AFTER that "thousand years" reign by Christ and His elect.

To claim that all the wicked and deceived are destroyed on the day of Christ's future coming is a doctrine of man called Amillennialism that began to be pushed into the Church in the 2nd century A.D. The 1st century Christian Church did not hold to that doctrine. And the reason should be simple, because it is nowhere written of in God's Word. One who believes it must omit much of Bible prophecy about the end, and many try to do that with applying false speculation with twisting the written Scripture to try and make it conform to their Amillennialist theories.

All of the wicked in Christs kingdom are destroyed at his coming.

Mathew 13:41-42
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

The wicked outside his kingdom are not destroyed.They continue to live outside the millinial kingdom.Many will come from the east and west to the millinial kingdom but the occupants are cast out.

Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”


The occupants of the kingdom who are in Christ ,remain in the kingdom during the millinium.

 

[journeymanisnothing]

All of the wicked in Christs kingdom are destroyed at his coming.

There is mo doubt from how both Peter and Paul describe the 2nd coming as Christ appearing in fire that engulfs all of creation in heaven and on earth.

Pe 2:9 - The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations...

Believers are delivered by faith in Jesus. Anyone claiming faith In Jesus should be ashamed at their hate for God by the great sin of trying to end His life. Our Lord said,

Mt.10:34-36 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to sendpeace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall bethey of his own household.

This happens when sinners hear the gospel and surrender to the Holy Spirit.

...and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: KJV

Jesus returns on judgment day.

Mathew 13:41-42
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
The wicked outside his kingdom are not destroyed.They continue to live outside the millinial kingdom.Many will come from the east and west to the millinial kingdom but the occupants are cast out.

Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

The occupants of the kingdom who are in Christ ,remain in the kingdom during the millinium.

The angels (messengers to the church entrusted with the gospel) separate the redeemed from the lost as we come to faith in God.
The Messiah came with the most devestating weapon ever seen on earth, the word of God.

God sees the meek as the strong on earth.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

There is mo doubt from how both Peter and Paul describe the 2nd coming as Christ appearing in fire that engulfs all of creation in heaven and on earth.

Pe 2:9 - The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations...

Believers are delivered by faith in Jesus. Anyone claiming faith In Jesus should be ashamed at their hate for God by the great sin of trying to end His life. Our Lord said,

Mt.10:34-36 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to sendpeace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall bethey of his own household.

This happens when sinners hear the gospel and surrender to the Holy Spirit.

...and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: KJV

Jesus returns on judgment day.

The angels (messengers to the church entrusted with the gospel) separate the redeemed from the lost as we come to faith in God.
The Messiah came with the most devestating weapon ever seen on earth, the word of God.

God sees the meek as the strong on earth.

But it's not the entire world that is engulfed in fire at Christs coming.Its just the kingdom .

The nations outside the kingdom are not destroyed.The world and the nations outside the kingdom are not destroyed till after the millinium .After Gog,Persia,Ethiopia,Lybia come against the kingdom after the millinium.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

And just so everyone knows,armegeddon is in Israel.Its not in Russia,China,South America .

 

[journeymanisnothing]

But it's not the entire world that is engulfed in fire at Christs coming.Its just the kingdom .

The nations outside the kingdom are not destroyed.The world and the nations outside the kingdom are not destroyed till after the millinium .After Gog,Persia,Ethiopia,Lybia come against the kingdom after the millinium.

I know what you believe Tenchi. I was indoctrinated with it for 40 years. Now lets' have a conversation where every question is answered with sensible reasoning leaving no contradiction in the Bible,

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

How are the wicked removed from His Kingdom if they were outside to begin with?

 

[Tenchi]

I know what you believe @Tenchi. I was indoctrinated with it for 40 years. Now lets' have a conversation where every question is answered with sensible reasoning leaving no contradiction in the Bible,

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

How are the wicked removed from His Kingdom if they were outside to begin with?

I think you've posted this in the wrong thread. Or you've addressed it to the wrong person.

 

[journeymanisnothing]

I think you've posted this in the wrong thread. Or you've addressed it to the wrong person.

You are right and I'm very sorry Tenchi. I'm glad you corrected me.
I'm engaged in conversations with 2 other members and the we are testifying to others members here about what God said.
That's no excuse but,

Whoever receives his testimony sets his seal to this, that God is true. Jn.3:33 ESV

So disagreeing by His oath about how sinners are forgiven means one if us or all of us are committing blasphemy.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I know what you believe Tenchi. I was indoctrinated with it for 40 years. Now lets' have a conversation where every question is answered with sensible reasoning leaving no contradiction in the Bible,

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

How are the wicked removed from His Kingdom if they were outside to begin with?

His kingdom is a specific area of land.
Everyone within that kingdom who commits iniquity will be cast into a furnace.

Mathew 13:41-42
The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.
They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


I myself do not presently live within that area of land.I would need to travel east to arrive in that land.


Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”




I would need to travel a great distance to the east to arrive in that kingdom with Abraham Issac and Jacob after they are resurected.

 

[journeymanisnothing]

His kingdom is a specific area of land.
Everyone within that kingdom who commits iniquity will be cast into a

Do you mean the Capital City within His Kingdom? Because His Kingsom is the whole world,
Mat 13:38 - The field is the world
Psa.50:12 the world is mine, and all that is in it. NIV
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, andthem which do iniquity;

Jesus used the terms "world and Kingdom" as meaning the same thing. And You didn't my question.

 

[journeymanisnothing]

Jesus made an incredible statement by saying, "Don't you understand this parable? Then how will you understand any parable?"
Mk.4:13 NET

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Do you mean the Capital City within His Kingdom? Because His Kingsom is the whole world,
Mat 13:38 - The field is the world
Psa.50:12 the world is mine, and all that is in it. NIV
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, andthem which do iniquity;

Jesus used the terms "world and Kingdom" as meaning the same thing. And You didn't my question.

In revelation 20,it shows the saints being surrounded by the nations when fire comes down from.heaven and devours the nations around the saints

Where are the saints located when the nations surround them?


Revelation 20
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.


Are these saints located all over the world or are they located in a specific part of the world when Gog,Persia ,Ethiopia and Lybia surround them?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Jesus made an incredible statement by saying, "Don't you understand this parable? Then how will you understand any parable?"
Mk.4:13 NET

If you don't understand what kingdom Gog invades after the millinium,then how will you know where the saints will be?

Ezekiel 38
38 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,

3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.

8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates