The battle of Ezekiel 38 and it's timing.

[Codger]

If you would have taken the time to look at something besides your own stupid posts in this thread,you would have noticed I already have.Its a waste of my time reading your mindless drivel.Now run along and quit wasting everyone's time on this board.You obviously have no interest in prophecy and have never seen anything.

That's your way of ignoring my posts. The absolute fact is that you or any futurist can't name one thing that has come to pass. That's my point in saying that Ezekiel 38-39 is past and is not future. When you are an old man of 100 years you will still be waiting for this prophesy to be fulfilled.

If you don't read history how do you know what has been fulfilled or not?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

That's your way of ignoring my posts. The absolute fact is that you or any futurist can't name one thing that has come to pass. That's my point in saying that Ezekiel 38-39 is past and is not future. When you are an old man of 100 years you will still be waiting for this prophesy to be fulfilled.

If you don't read history how do you know what has been fulfilled or not?

Those chapters are not going to be forfilled in 100 years.It wont be forfilled for another 1000 years.

 

[Adstar]

I didnt say that you lier.
I was quoting scripture.
Now if you feel convicted then thats your problem.

According to Jesus "Jerusalem"is responsible for ALL the righteous blood shed upon the earth.
And thats what I mean by you dont listen to Jesus.If yopu did you would understand what Ive been saying,but you dont.
I quote the verses and put them in front of your face but you look away and ignore them.Jesus words you ignore.

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[/FONT]Nooo i don't feel convicted by you at all Shilohsfoal i wrote the last two posts in that hope that you would feel convicted and repent...

And my disagreement with you was on the identity of the 10 horns but you keep on posting scripture about the harlot as if i have disagreed with you on that point. Everyone can look back at my posts in this thread and see that i have made no such statement of disagreement about the harlot causing the death of the Messengers of God. That’s something you are unjustly projecting upon me to try and make me out to be one who rejects the World of God.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

 

[Strangelove]

And my disagreement with you was on the identity of the 10 horns but you keep on posting scripture about the harlot as if i have disagreed with you on that point. Everyone can look back at my posts in this thread and see that i have made no such statement of disagreement about the harlot causing the death of the Messengers of God. That’s something you are unjustly projecting upon me to try and make me out to be one who rejects the World of God.

Yeah I thought that was a bit odd too.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Yeah I thought that was a bit odd too.

Jesus was speaking to the beast .
Mt 23 ;34
Wherefore,behold,I send unto you prophets,and wise men and scibes;and some of them ye shall kill and crucify;and some of them shall ye scorge in your synagogues,and persecute them from city to city.


Why is it people focus on the past and not the future when they take these words into account?
The beast was and then was not and is yet again.

Jesus knew who was going to kill the saints .Jesus knew who this beast is.I do too.

Daniel 7;25
And he shall speak great words against the most High,and shall wear out the saints of the most High,and think to change times and laws;and they shall be given into his hand untill a time and times and the deviding of time.

Dont you know who make the laws in Jerusalem?It is the beast.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

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[/FONT]Nooo i don't feel convicted by you at all Shilohsfoal i wrote the last two posts in that hope that you would feel convicted and repent...

And my disagreement with you was on the identity of the 10 horns but you keep on posting scripture about the harlot as if i have disagreed with you on that point. Everyone can look back at my posts in this thread and see that i have made no such statement of disagreement about the harlot causing the death of the Messengers of God. That’s something you are unjustly projecting upon me to try and make me out to be one who rejects the World of God.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

OK Answer me this then.How many horns(kings)sit upon those seven mountains today?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I'll give you a hint.In the 1948 war,all these fault for the kingdom but only one of these sits upon those seven mountains today.




Belligerents
Israel (IDF).

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Egypt
Anglo-Egyptian Sudan[2][3][4]
Syria
Jordan
Lebanon[5]
Iraq
Saudi Arabia[6]
Mutawakkilite Kingdom of Yemen [7]
Holy War Army
Arab Liberation Army Muslim Brotherhood

 

[Adstar]

OK Answer me this then.How many horns(kings)sit upon those seven mountains today?

The scriptures say that the the Horns are on the scarlet beast. No where does it say that horns sit upon seven hills.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

 

[Adstar]

I'll give you a hint.In the 1948 war,all these fault for the kingdom but only one of these sits upon those seven mountains today.




Belligerents
Israel (IDF).

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Egypt
Anglo-Egyptian Sudan[2][3][4]
Syria
Jordan
Lebanon[5]
Iraq
Saudi Arabia[6]
Mutawakkilite Kingdom of Yemen [7]
Holy War Army
Arab Liberation Army Muslim Brotherhood

You needed to inject non national organizations into your list of 10 to make it seem to fit prophecy. Holy War Army and Arab Liberation Army Muslim Brotherhood are not kingdoms/nations, they cannot be horns. Seems the person who made this theory up has done so because they want the arab nations to be the 10 horns. Once again the arab nation never gave palestine to the zionists, they fought against it from the very start. Palistine was handed over to the zionists by an act of the british parlament.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

 

[Shilohsfoal]

The scriptures say that the the Horns are on the scarlet beast. No where does it say that horns sit upon seven hills.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Rev 17;9
And here is the mind which hath wisdom.The seven heads are seven mountains,on which the woman sitteth.

Note the woman sits upon the seven mountains.Not ten horns.
I know for a fact the heads have only one little horn upon them today.

Now what ten horns are you claiming is on the seven mountains of Jerusalem?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

You needed to inject non national organizations into your list of 10 to make it seem to fit prophecy. Holy War Army and Arab Liberation Army Muslim Brotherhood are not kingdoms/nations, they cannot be horns. Seems the person who made this theory up has done so because they want the arab nations to be the 10 horns. Once again the arab nation never gave palestine to the zionists, they fought against it from the very start. Palistine was handed over to the zionists by an act of the british parlament.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

I didnt inject anything.I copied that list from wikipidia.
Those are the combatants of the 1948 war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War
The list is on the right side of the page.

 

[Adstar]

Rev 17;9
And here is the mind which hath wisdom.The seven heads are seven mountains,on which the woman sitteth.

Note the woman sits upon the seven mountains.Not ten horns.
I know for a fact the heads have only one little horn upon them today.

Now what ten horns are you claiming is on the seven mountains of Jerusalem?

Don't ask a question you have already asked before and i have answered. I told you the horns do not sit on the heads.



All Praise The Ancient Of Days

 

[Adstar]

I didnt inject anything.I copied that list from wikipidia.
Those are the combatants of the 1948 war.

1948 Arab
The list is on the right side of the page.

What does it matter if wikipedia has them down. They are not nations/kingdoms/horns.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

 

[Shilohsfoal]

What does it matter if wikipedia has them down. They are not nations/kingdoms/horns.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

It matters because you was wrong again.
You said I injected them when I didnt.
All I said was these were in the war of 1948 and they were.

As for them giving the kingdom to be beast.
They did.If they hadnt they would still be fighting.
They rederd the kingdom to the beast just as the bible says.Just because you cant understand the prophecies concerning the beast is not a big thing.Very few people do understand it.It is ment for Israel to understand anyways.
If you understood who Israel is ,it would help you.Not everyone who dwells in the land of Israel is Israel.Only a few will be called by that name .And it is those who overcome the beast who recieve that new name.

Those who overcome are those who the land was promised to so long ago.That is why it is called the land of Israel.Not because who abides there now but because who the true heir is.
Lucifer king of Babylon is a lier.He called himself Israel and decieved the world.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Don't ask a question you have already asked before and i have answered. I told you the horns do not sit on the heads.



All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Those ten horns sure dont.But the little horn abides upon those seven heads today.
Those seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sittith.Those seven mountains are in Jerusalem.
The little horn upon those seven heads is the Israeli goverment.
And it is that little horn that shall cause the saints to be killed.

The king of the north shall give them a host.
And that host shall kill the saints for them.Just as the Romans killed Jesus for the jewish leaders.


Daniel 8;12
And a host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression,and it cast down the truth to the ground;and it practiced,and prosperd.

That host(army) is mentioned in daniel 11;31 also.

Those jews who do wixckedly against the covenant are friends with the king of the north -see daniel 11;32
But the saints are killed in Daniel 11;33.

 

[Strangelove]

What does it matter if wikipedia has them down. They are not nations/kingdoms/horns.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Exactly.

Shilo,,,theres just too many mental gymnastics you need to make this thing work.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Exactly.

Shilo,,,theres just too many mental gymnastics you need to make this thing work.

Im not doing any gymnastics. copied and pasted the list of combatants for the kingdom.
That was the list.No gymnastics needed.
Your problem is you dont know who the beast is or those who renderd the kingdom to him.
Its you who does not know.

You can answer the question if you want.
If your going to claim there are ten horns on the beast then name them.
Tell us of wise one,Name the ten horns you claim are on the seven mountains of Jerusalem.

An even easier problem for you.
Name the three horns the little horn plucked up from the seven heads.


You cant do it nor will you ever be able to unless you change your way of thinking.You would have to set aside pre concieved ideas of what the beast is.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Daniel 2;41
And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes,part of potters clay,and part of iron,the kingdom shall be devided;but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron,forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.


People on this board dont even know what "the kingdom "is.
When you try to explain to them 'THE KINGDOM' is the promised land they deny it and claim the kingdom is the world.

 

[Strangelove]

Your problem is you dont know who the beast is or those who renderd the kingdom to him.
Its you who does not know.

I'm not claiming that I know for sure anything thats written in Revelation. It's a very tricky book and no-one can know the whole picture. Thats why I'm very dubious of people who claim to know exactly what everything means.

To me the beast is world communism/fascism/globalism which can be defined in one word....communitarianism. The enforcing power. Physically and mentally. The brainchild of the Whore of Babylon. Which will eventually destroy her.

You can answer the question if you want.
If your going to claim there are ten horns on the beast then name them.
Tell us of wise one,Name the ten horns you claim are on the seven mountains of Jerusalem.

An even easier problem for you.
Name the three horns the little horn plucked up from the seven heads.

Your right I dont know who the ten horns are because I think it's future prophecy. All I know is that they will be rulers of kingdoms/nations for a short time with the beast. And the Holy War Army is definately not a nation or Kingdom so your wrong there. Sorry bud.

My best guess is that in the future the world will be split into 10 regions for one hour when the NWO is officially announced. Or there will be 10 rulers of countries or kingdoms that will represent these horns.

You cant do it nor will you ever be able to unless you change your way of thinking.You would have to set aside pre concieved ideas of what the beast is.

Well you're not doing a very good job of convincing friend.

 

[Sissy]

Your right I dont know who the ten horns are because I think it's future prophecy.

That's understandable since scripture tells us ...

Revelation 17
(12) And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
(13) These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
(14) These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
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So, at the very least, it is future in respect of when John wrote this.
And the "one hour" does convey a very short period of time.

Also, notice that these (10 horns) make war with the Lamb.
This would be a clue as to the timing.
To make war with the Lamb would mean that the war is happening wherever the Lamb is.
So, where is the Lamb when this war takes place? Heaven or earth?

If we conclude the Lamb is on earth, then this war does not happen until after the return of Christ.