Bible Study The Book of Life. Can you lose salvation?

[Maria222]

[10/17, 14:17] .: We must take care that this never happens to us. We must ask the Lord to give us true repentance so that we can be sure of inheriting all His promises, changing our hearts and lives to be holy !!!
[10/17, 14:22] .: Unrepentant, deliberate sin or in other words "The Sin unto Death" should cause us to question whether we are saved at all or we lost our salvation ("see that no one falls short (lacks) of the grace of God") If you are engaging in such sin, repent today, CHANGE YOUR LIFE FROM SINS TO HOLINESS in true repentance. And remember some fellow Christians will be held accountable for their immoraliry/ kids raping/pedophilia/ murders/ lie/ stealing and other deadly sins.
[10/17, 14:27] .: It seems God will not forgive a pedophil/beheader/raper, if he will ask for a new forgiveness after his salvation...but God gives a chance to immoral christians saying to churches:
[10/17, 14:33] .: Revelation 2,3: By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. 21 I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. 22 So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. 23 I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.
[10/17, 14:34] .: God gave you time to repent if you will not repent, God will strike you dead for the deadly sins/the sin unto death!!!
[10/17, 14:40] .: Iimmoral christians, REPENT of jerking, porn, immorality, illegal marriages and adulterous marriages (illegal marriages in the eyes of God), abandon lovers, close immoral accounts on porno sites and remove any immoral pictures from your eyes to live holy, or you will be killed by God.
[10/17, 14:40] .: Amen
[10/17, 14:42] .: Immoral christians, REPENT of jerking, porn, immorality, illegal marriages and adulterous marriages (illegal marriages in the eyes of God), abandon lovers, close immoral accounts on porno sites and remove any immoral pictures from your eyes to live holy unless you would be killed by God.
Amen
[10/17, 14:44] .: Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One (GOD) who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Mth 10: 28.

 

[Knotical]

Frankly speaking, as salvation won't be guaranteed until one hears their name is in the book of life, losing something we don't even have yet is a superfluous idea.

So, based on your understanding no one can actually call themselves Christians. For to be a Christian one has to be effectually called by God unto Salvation.

 

[Maria222]

So, based on your understanding no one can actually call themselves Christians. For to be a Christian one has to be effectually called by God unto Salvation.

Do you know that Smokers do NOT inherit the Kingdom of God!?
"nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers [whose words are used as weapons to abuse, insult, humiliate, intimidate, or slander], nor swindlers will inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God."
Hell is your choice, smokers, drunkards, drug addicts, and those who married the divorced! Amen

 

[Maria222]

IF YOU are not LIVING HOLY now, then YOU are not a Christian now, though you may have been one in the past. There are NO Christian liars, NO Christian drunks, NO Christian adulterers, NO Christian thieves (1 Cor. 6:9-11; Eph. 5:5-7; Rev. 21:8). NOW is the time to DEEPLY REPENT. God wants the backsliders back, but you must repent to return to salvation or to become a Christian.

 

[Knotical]

IF YOU are not LIVING HOLY now, then YOU are not a Christian now, though you may have been one in the past. There are NO Christian liars, NO Christian drunks, NO Christian adulterers, NO Christian thieves (1 Cor. 6:9-11; Eph. 5:5-7; Rev. 21:8). NOW is the time to DEEPLY REPENT. God wants the backsliders back, but you must repent to return to salvation or to become a Christian.

Have you ever heard the term Sanctification? Try looking it up some time.

 

[Hopeful 2]

So, based on your understanding no one can actually call themselves Christians.

Wrong.
Folks can call themselves anything they like.

For to be a Christian one has to be effectually called by God unto Salvation.

Being called, and answering appropriately, are two different things.
If a man truly submits to God, that submission will be illustrated on the day of judgement.
If submission is lacking, they will hear..."Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. )Mat 7:22-23)

 

[Knotical]

Wrong.
Folks can call themselves anything they like.

Being called, and answering appropriately, are two different things.
If a man truly submits to God, that submission will be illustrated on the day of judgement.
If submission is lacking, they will hear..."Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. )Mat 7:22-23)

It would appear you are pretty much sticking to the gospels for your reasonings. You should really read through Paul's letters. There you will see the path to salvation even more fleshed out, including aspects of it like sanctification, propitiation, and justification. When someone becomes a Christian they are not automatically no longer able to sin. Being a Christian is a journey, not a destination. The Destination is Heaven. Everything else we do along the way will show whether we are Christians or not. We will still sin, but how we respond to sin is the important part.

 

[Maria222]

Guys, can you give me a list of those who do not inherit the Kingdom of God?
I offer you to add these people there too:


Question:

Do you think adherents of Judaism will attain salvation?
My response:
I hold the view that God demonstrates special loyalty to his chosen Jewish people, Israel, in various ways. However, those who persist in rejecting Jesus as their Messiah are no better off than non-Jews who do the same. In this case they will be judged by God as unbelievers too.
There exist numerous Messianic Jews, comprising a significant portion of Judaism's followers, who adhere to Jewish laws while also acknowledging Jesus as the Messiah and Son of God. These individuals are considered as heretics and cult followers because Christians are free from implementation of the Jewish laws (for example circumcision is forbidden for them and food dietary laws too).
Galatians 5: "Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace".

These groups of the messianic heretics are fallen away from grace and they are not believers anymore!
As for others who do not share Christians beliefs and who do not live holy, based on Scripture, they will not gain entry into heaven. So, while we cannot fully grasp the extent of God's mercy, there is no guarantee that those Jews who reject Jesus will be accepted.
The natural follow-up question pertains to individuals who lived before Jesus, such as Abraham and David. I believe, and Scripture supports, that they are in a state of blessedness in paradise.

Ultimately, it is our faith in God's promises, whether regarding future events like the Messiah's arrival (as was the case for Old Testament believers) or reflecting on past events like the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ, that renders us acceptable to Him.
God accepts only holy Christians! 1 Cor. 15:2 and Col. 1:22,23 declare the true Gospel of grace and reveals that it has a conditional security for the believer attached to it! That was the original message, as taught by the Lord Himself and His Apostles.

IF YOU are not LIVING HOLY now, then YOU are not a Christian now, though you may have been one in the past. There are NO Christian liars, NO Christian drunks, NO Christian adulterers, NO Christian thieves (1 Cor. 6:9-11; Eph. 5:5-7; Rev. 21:8). NOW is the time to DEEPLY REPENT. God wants the backsliders back, but you must repent to return to salvation or to become a Christian.

 

[Tenchi]

Those who believe in the SON of God and live a holy life have their name written in His Book of Life (the Lamb's book) and it is retained there.

??? No, there is only one Savior and he doesn't need our help, our contribution of right living, in order to save us.

John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Acts 4:12
12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

1 Timothy 2:5
5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

When we add in our own obedience, our holy life, to the Gospel, we make ourselves a co-Savior with Christ, elevating ourselves to his level and diminishing his saving work on the cross. What blasphemy! There is only one Savior and what he has done to save us is perfect, fully satisfying God's holy justice. Nothing more is required by God in order to accept us as His own. Read Hebrews 9-10:21.

Titus 3:5-7
5 he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,
6 whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
7 so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Those who reject the SON of God or who backslide, never have their name written in His book. Their name is removed from the Book of Life, of which everyone’s name is written down that ever lived. They are like unbelievers. And they will be judged with unbelievers. They need to repent and live a holy life, otherwise they will perish.

Nope. All of God's children are "accepted in the Beloved" (Ephesians 1:6), who is Christ and ONLY in him are they accepted by God. Christ is perfect and thus always accepted by God. As a result, all those who are in him by faith, who are clothed in his perfect righteousness, are always accepted by God, too.

2 Corinthians 5:21
21 For our sake he [God] made him [Christ] to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him [Christ] we might become the righteousness of God.

Galatians 3:26-28
26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.
27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

1 Corinthians 1:29-31
29 ...no human being might boast in the presence of God.
30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption,
31 so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”

Concerning the Book of Life, it's important to consider carefully what is said in God's word about it:

Revelation 3:4-5
4 Yet you have still a few names in Sardis, people who have not soiled their garments, and they will walk with me in white, for they are worthy.
5 The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels.

Though some take this passage to be a threat it actually only presents a promise: The one who conquers will never have their name blotted out of the Book of Life. Who is a "conqueror"?

Romans 8:37-39
37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers,
39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

All who are in Christ by faith in him as Savior and Lord are "more than conquerors." And to them, God promises never to blot their names from the Book of Life. This promise to all born-again people is confirmed in Hebrews 13:5b:

Hebrews 13:5
5 Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”

What's to be made, then, of the verse you cited from Exodus 32? Here it is in context:

Exodus 32:30-35
30 The next day Moses said to the people, “You have sinned a great sin. And now I will go up to the LORD; perhaps I can make atonement for your sin.”
31 So Moses returned to the LORD and said, “Alas, this people has sinned a great sin. They have made for themselves gods of gold.
32 But now, if you will forgive their sin—but if not, please blot me out of your book that you have written.”
33 But the LORD said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will blot out of my book.
34 But now go, lead the people to the place about which I have spoken to you; behold, my angel shall go before you. Nevertheless, in the day when I visit, I will visit their sin upon them.”
35 Then the LORD sent a plague on the people, because they made the calf, the one that Aaron made.

Did Moses intend to offer himself as a sacrifice for the Israelites, thinking God would cast him into hell forever? Nothing in the account above suggests this. Again, "blot out" seems merely to mean "kill physically." It was the physical death of a sacrificial animal (and the shedding of its blood) by which atonement for sin was accomplished in the OT. There was no notion that the animal would endure eternal torment in hell. And so, I think that Moses offered himself in atonement for the sin of his fellow Israelites thinking that his sacrifice extended only to his physical life, not his eternal, spiritual life. When, then, he said to God, "blot me out of the book you have written" Moses did not mean "unsave me" or "eternally damn me to hell."

That by "blot out of your book" Moses meant only "take my physical life" is echoed by how God meant the phrase "blot out of my book." He refused Moses's offer saying that "Whoever has sinned, I will blot out of my book." Having said this, God then killed those who had sinned by plague, blotting them out of His book.

What "book" is in view in this passage? Though referred to twice, it is not called the Book of Life, or the Lamb's Book of Life. God has multiple books, however:

Revelation 20:12
12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done.

In this passage, a number of books are opened in which are recorded the deeds of all individuals and from this record they are judged by God. One cannot just assume, then, that in the passage in Exodus 32, both Moses and God had the Lamb's Book of Life in mind. It is certainly extremely unlikely that this book was in Moses's mind since Jesus had not come (and would not appear until many more centuries had passed) as the perfect atoning Lamb of God. And so, Moses could not have been referring to The Lamb's Book of Life, but only to one of the other number of books maintained in heaven.

Revelation 13:8
8 and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.

It is from this book "of life of the Lamb" that none who have been written in it from before the foundation of the world will ever be removed (blotted out). All such have been eternally predestined to salvation by God, who in His omniscience has always known who would freely trust in Christ and become one of His own. About these born-again people, whose names are forever written in the Lamb's Book of Life, Jesus declared,

John 10:27-29
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.

John 6:37-40
37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.
38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me.
39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.
40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

 

[Maria222]

Let's read the Scripture:

All Have Sinned (Rom 3: 9-20).

God’s Righteousness Through Faith (Rom 3:21-26):

God imputes us the righteousness of His Son when we repent and confess our sins during our conversion to Christianity (who is the Creator of the universe) through our FAITH in the Son of God. Can you live in sins after your conversion as before?

21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through FAITH in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. 
For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Should we continue to live in sins confessing our FAITH in the Son of God?
NO! If we will live in sins, we will die in sins and God will judge us for our sins. Unfortunately churches do not teach that today only God teaches that on the pages of the Holy Bible! Remember very well that Christianity is about righteousness and all Bible and the New Testament speak only about righteousness!! 

"He (JESUS) himself bore our sins" in his body on the cross, so that we might DIE to sins and live for RIGHTEOUSNESS; "by his wounds you have been healed." 1 Peter 2: 24

Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase?

Romans 6:2
By no means! We are those who have DIED to sin; how can we LIVE in it any longer?

Romans 6:11
In the same way, count yourselves DEAD to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

Romans 6:15
What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means!

1 Peter 4:2
As a result, they do not live the rest of their earthly lives for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God.

The God of Israel COMMANDED us: Be HOLY for I am HOLY.

Hebrews 10:10
And by that will, we have been made HOLY through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

It is our responsibility to live in sins or with God.


If we will live in sins then God does not live with us.

He abandons sinners (sexual immoral people..)

If we live in sins, we will die in sins and after death God will judge us for our sins.

That is CLEAR.

What is the result of such sins/life style? Sexual immoral people do NOT inherit the Kingdom of God, unbelievers/in-the name-only believers too.

That is why it is OUR responsibility to COOPERATE with God and ABANDON our sins in repentance to live with God...

Or we have the second option: ungodly life, leading us to the Lake of Fire.

What are sins/Difficulties, obstacles & hindrances?

"Then shall we know, if we press on to know the Lord." Hosea 6:3

Let me add:

Our life is like a flight to the Kingdom of God.

We are flying through mountains (difficulties, obstacles and hindrances in a man's way, which keep him back from "knowing the Lord").

In poor visibility conditions, pilots use navigation systems which enable them to fly in spite of all obstacles—to lead them forward and survive.

The Spirit of God helps us to fly forward. Some of us will be crashed by our sins in mountains because it is our responsibility too to follow and usue navigation systems or not.

Some of us will land safely in the Kingdom of God, being safe and saved, if we will OBEY God and LIVE WITH Him IMPLEMENTING what He commands and says in the Holy Bible.

But only one gets the prize!

We do it to get a crown that will last forever!

Hold fast what you have, so that no one may seize your crown!

"Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge (JESUS), will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved his appearing." (2 Timothy 4:8

 

[Maria222]

Note guys what God said:


-Exod. 32:33:
"And the LORD said to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book."

Dont you clearly see now that your names could be blotted out from the Book of Life if you will continue to live in sins as you did it before your conversion?

 

[Maria222]

NOTE: Names can be blotted out of the Book of Life by committing idolatry and other sins:

So Moses went back to the LORD and said, "Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold. But now, please forgive their sin - but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written." The LORD replied to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book." (Exo 32:31-33)
May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous.(Psa 69:28)

 

[Tenchi]

No, this is a misconception and a heresy of the last days what you say: Jesus gave us a clear list of those who do not inherit the Kingdom of God (among them drunkards/smokers/ drug addicts, liars, adultarers, idolworshipers, killers etc):
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

??? Jesus said nothing about smokers, or drug addicts... Why are you adding to his words?

It was Paul, not Jesus, who wrote what you've quoted above.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Are you aware that Paul called the believers in Corinth "carnal babes in Christ" (1 Corinthians 3:1), saying that, though they were in Christ they were "still of the flesh" (1 Corinthians 3:3)? He accused them of being partisan and fractious, too (1 Corinthians 3:3-4), and worse. In fact, there was a guy in the church who was having sex with his mother-in-law (1 Corinthians 5). But in spite of all the criticisms Paul leveled at the carnal believers at Corinth, he still called them "brethren," God's "field" and "buildings," "in Christ," the "temple of the Holy Spirit" and so on. He puts a serious crimp in the sinless perfection error, doesn't he?

 

[Knotical]

Note guys what God said:


-Exod. 32:33:
"And the LORD said to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book."

Dont you clearly see now that your names could be blotted out from the Book of Life if you will continue to live in sins as you did it before your conversion?

You are completely missing the point of salvation. God is pointing out that there is a consequence to sin. Yet, He also provided a way for salvation that will completely blot out all transgressions for those who are effectually called, repent, and ask for forgiveness. This does not mean we are suddenly no longer able to sin, but it does provide a way for us not to be slaves to it anymore. Jesus conquered sin and paid the price for us.

 

[Maria222]

NOTE: Names can be blotted out of the Book of Life by committing idolatry and other sins:

So Moses went back to the LORD and said, "Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold. But now, please forgive their sin - but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written." The LORD replied to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book." (Exo 32:31-33)
May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous.(Psa 69:28)

Apparently, both Moses and David knew names could be blotted out of the book of life by backsliding, but that fact is flatly denied in our day by eternal security proponents. The Lord Jesus referred to the same possibility not happening to those who finally overcome. The final overcomers will never have their names blotted from it, but such will happen to others who don't endure!

Yet you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their clothes. They will walk with me, dressed in white, for they are worthy. He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels. (Rev 3:4,5)

 

[Maria222]

The end of Revelation repeats the vital necessity of having one's name in the Book of Life. The overcomers are contrasted to the impure or sinners, etc.:
Nothing impure will ever enter it [New Jerusalem], nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life. (Rev. 21:27)

Hence, those blessed people whose names are in the Book of Life can enter New Jerusalem (and escape the Lake of Fire), because they are:
(1) Pure. See also Mt. 5:8, Acts 15:9 and 1 Tim. 5:22b
(2) Don't do what is shameful or deceitful.

Guys, does that describe you? Remember: one's spiritual identity changes from lost to found at the point of the sincere repentance. Though one does shameful and deceitful things, if he sincerely repents of his sins and stops doing them (being a pedo, he stops being a pedo etc.) turns to the Lord Jesus to serve him (1 Thess. 1:9), that wickedness is wiped clean and forgotten. He is purified spiritually. It is one's spiritual condition at the point of death which determines where he will go. If he lives in sins with lovers, jerking, watching porn, smoking, abusing his wife etc.,he will die in sins. (Read Heb. 3:14; Mt. 10:22; Rev. 2:10,11). Is YOUR NAME in the book of life now?

 

[Tenchi]

Warn A Righteous Man:
Again, when a righteous man turns from his righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before him, he will die. Since you did not warn him, he will die for his sin. The righteous things he did will not be remembered, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. But if you do warn the righteous man not to sin and he does not sin, he will surely live because he took warning, and you will have saved yourself.

A righteous man is a person who is not doing evil, but if he does turn to evil, he will die spiritually.

??? This isn't what the passage says. Your addition of "spiritually" is nowhere in the passage in Ezekiel you've cited.

This proves a saved person can backslide, which is sometimes implied as an impossibility by the grace changers in some of their sermons. Many false teachers have both taught that way. Moreover, the death caused by turning to sin has to be spiritual death and not physical death because King David is an example of a righteous man who turned to evil, but didn’t die physically!

??? This is...silly. Was King David born-again by faith in Jesus Christ? Obviously not. Instead, he had to resort to the Mosaic system of animal sacrifice in atonement for his sin, which he did. David does not offer useful ground, then, for discussing the matter of sin and the born-again person.

NOTE:
The false doctrine of "eternal security" cannot give such a warning of spiritual death for the righteous because they mistakenly believe that is not possible. These verses are very clear and also prove, along with many others, that Calvinism is seriously erroneous. The only thing they can do is distort the definition of death to try to preserve their demonic teaching.

??? I'm not a Calvinist but I hold staunchly to the entirely biblical teaching of the eternal security of the born-again person. And your citation of an Old Covenant state-of-affairs for New Covenant living mistakes the vital and profound differences between these covenants. Please read Hebrews 9-10:21. Also, phrases like "demonic teaching" in description of views you don't like merely serve to make you appear...overwrought in your views and not a little irrational.

 

[Tenchi]

NOTE: Names can be blotted out of the Book of Life by committing idolatry and other sins:

So Moses went back to the LORD and said, "Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold. But now, please forgive their sin - but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written." The LORD replied to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book." (Exo 32:31-33)
May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous.(Psa 69:28)

Apparently, both Moses and David knew names could be blotted out of the book of life by backsliding, but that fact is flatly denied in our day by eternal security proponents. The Lord Jesus referred to the same possibility not happening to those who finally overcome. The final overcomers will never have their names blotted from it, but such will happen to others who don't endure!

Nope. See post #29.

 

[Tenchi]

Can you live in sins after your conversion as before?

Yup.

1 Corinthians 3:1-3
1 But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ.
2 I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready,
3 for you are still of the flesh. For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way?

Galatians 3:1-3
1 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified.
2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?
3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?

1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

1 John 2:1
1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

And so on.

 

[Maria222]

Please grab your Bible and verify the following:

Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?” He (the Son of God) said to them, “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because MANY, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.” (Luke 13:23, 24)

Sadly, even though Luke 13:24 is one of the Lord's salvation teachings, very few know anything about it. The Lord taught there we are to make a continuous tense agonizing effort to enter God's kingdom. That is the salvation security Jesus taught. Elsewhere he taught difficult or hard is the road that leads to life, Mt. 7:14

The reason "the many" will try to enter and still not get in is because they aren't making enough effort, as Jesus called it. Imagine that! To many in our day, this dissimilar teaching must sound like pure cultic heresy, but it is Jesus' teaching! We are to make an all out effort and never stop till we enter God's kingdom. Anything less could place us in with the many who try to enter God's kingdom to some degree but don't. The “many” who don't enter know:
there is a narrow door which must be entered through for salvation,
God exists, the Scriptures are TRUE, but ...... they will still miss it! Imagine that.

"Once saved always saved" is the chief reason in our day why multitudes, who believe the Bible, will miss heaven. One of the reasons is because they are not putting forth enough effort. They are resting in a salvation security which does not exist. Because salvation in the Bible is CONDITIONAL!!!!

Remember also it was the servant with one talent who did nothing and consequently gained nothing who heard his master say to him:
“You wicked, lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown and gather where I have not scattered seed? Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest. Take the talent from him and give it to the one who has the ten talents. For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Mat 25:26-30)

Again, such is clearly related to salvation security. Doing nothing was his spiritual downfall and landed him in hell. We also have Luke 9:62:
And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

The imagery is clear. We are to work as one ploughing in a field. It is impossible to rightly connect such work in a field to relaxing and doing nothing, as the "grace changers" spreading this heresy want us to believe.

... do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure. (1 Tim 5:22), Acts 15:9.

But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. (Rom 6:22)

If you are a slave of God, your life should lead to holiness and only in this case you will get eternal life. Let me repeat:
Salvation in the Bible is CONDITIONAL!!!!

You will land safe and saved in the Kingdom of Heaven only if you will not suffer the shipwreck of faith in bed with lovers or holding at your rod jerking daily!

List the sins which say that people who commit them will not inherit the Kingdom of God! Lets pay attention to them!