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The Charismatic Church movement
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Oh,so they are basically the same Church with the same beliefs?Popular again? that was popular in the 70s
I kinda think, changing the word from Pentecostal to charismatic was an attempt to "give it some class"They are about the same...
A rose by any other name is still a rose...
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So is the Pentecost Church or the Charismatic Church a branch of the Baptist Church?
that is one i have not heard of..
So often some one comes along and believes he has THE KEY to God and His word... Most these guys are messed up...
Oops i dont know if that is the case Emergent Church like i said i never heard of em...
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I have never been involved with either group. The Pentecostals were generally conservative Christians who focused on tongues and healing. The Charismatics are ecumenical and their theology ranges over a wide spectrum. Once again, tongues and healing is very prominent.
They all believe that the evidence of being Spirit-filled is speaking in tongues, but modern "tongues" are a far cry from the distinct foreign languages spoken supernaturally as evidenced in Scripture. Modern tongues are more akin to "babbling", and the fact that women (who are scripturally forbidden to speak in the church) do so quite freely, is a red flag in itself.
They all believe that the evidence of being Spirit-filled is speaking in tongues, but modern "tongues" are a far cry from the distinct foreign languages spoken supernaturally as evidenced in Scripture. Modern tongues are more akin to "babbling", and the fact that women (who are scripturally forbidden to speak in the church) do so quite freely, is a red flag in itself.
No i used baptist as an example ... not every baptist church is exactly the same...
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So how does the Emergent Church differ?I come across that movement as well.
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I never heard of the emergent church except on this forum.
So many words are used on this forum that I have never heard elsewhere.
This forum is a very informative site.
But unless someone steps forward and calls the church they attend or have attended as an emergent church, all we can do is give each other our opinions.
So many words are used on this forum that I have never heard elsewhere.
This forum is a very informative site.
But unless someone steps forward and calls the church they attend or have attended as an emergent church, all we can do is give each other our opinions.
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70's.Then there is the Word of Faith movement.When did all of these movements come into the Church and why?
Why?
Someone took an old idea and presented it as something new and it was very well received and it grew from there.
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older if one considers the monatists and also the jewish version of that stuff.
Kathi, I thought the following article from Wicipedia explains some of the main differences pretty well.
While Pentecostals and charismatics share these beliefs, there are differences. Many in the charismatic movement deliberately distanced themselves from Pentecostalism for cultural and theological reasons. Foremost among theological reasons is the tendency of many Pentecostals to insist that speaking in tongues is always the initial physical sign of receiving Spirit baptism. Although specific teachings will vary from group to group, charismatics generally believe that the baptism with the Holy Spirit occurs at the new birth and prefer to call subsequent encounters with the Holy Spirit by other names, such as "being filled". In contrast to Pentecostals, charismatics tend to accept a range of supernatural experiences (such as prophecy, miracles, healing, or "physical manifestations of an altered state of consciousness") as evidence of having been baptized or filled with the Holy Spirit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charismatic_Movement
While Pentecostals and charismatics share these beliefs, there are differences. Many in the charismatic movement deliberately distanced themselves from Pentecostalism for cultural and theological reasons. Foremost among theological reasons is the tendency of many Pentecostals to insist that speaking in tongues is always the initial physical sign of receiving Spirit baptism. Although specific teachings will vary from group to group, charismatics generally believe that the baptism with the Holy Spirit occurs at the new birth and prefer to call subsequent encounters with the Holy Spirit by other names, such as "being filled". In contrast to Pentecostals, charismatics tend to accept a range of supernatural experiences (such as prophecy, miracles, healing, or "physical manifestations of an altered state of consciousness") as evidence of having been baptized or filled with the Holy Spirit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charismatic_Movement
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char·is·mat·ic
ˌkerəzˈmadik/
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adjective: charismatic
ˌkerəzˈmadik/
adjective
adjective: charismatic
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exercising a compelling charm that inspires devotion in others.
"a charismatic leader"
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synonyms:charming, fascinating, strong in character
I think I heard of a guy who walked this Earth about 2,000 years ago who fit that definition.
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This is what one church in our city who describes themselves that way, calls it.....
There is a church that cares about community more than dogma, about an open mind more than uniformity, about being more than believing, about doing the right thing more than just talking about it. An imperfect church of imperfect people inviting other imperfect people to find the perfect love. This church is for dreamers, skeptics, cynics, and seekers.
It truly sounds very much like our church.
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Think about your question. And I will ask, "Why did America come into existence?"Then there is the Word of Faith movement.
I would say the answer to both questions is, that which was already existing had become something many people could no longer embrace or believe in.
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That needs a separate thread since it is quite different from the Charismatic Movement.
Even though Scripture tells us that not all will speak in tongues (1 Cor 12:4-11; 29-31) Charismatics and Pentecostals assume that Paul was mistaken. Paul asked the rhetorical question (whose answer would be "No") -- "Do all speak with tongues?" (v. 30). The modern Tongues Movement answers "Absolutely"!
Also, one of the key characteristics of both groups is that "experience" trumps Scripture. If you have experienced something, it must be true, regardless of what is stated in the Bible. And while Paul said "Let all things be done decently and in order" (1 Cor 14:40), Charismatics believe that the more disorder there is, the more spiritual is their meeting.
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