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wondering said:
Older commentaries?

How's Matthew Henry's complete set?

I also have Clark....
But, like I've said, I don't really like using them.

They tend to present what THEY individually believe....
MH, for instance, is reformed. Some things he states I would not agree with.
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wondering,

We should approach all Bible teaching, including commentaries and posts on CFnet, from an Acts 17:11 (NIV) perspective. I use that view when listen to the pastors and laity preach at my church.

Adam Clarke was a Methodist (hence Arminian) theologian and exegete. It took him 40 years to compose his complete commentary - in the days before computers. Matthew Henry was a Calvinist Reformed commentator.

Oz
 
OzSpen said:
wondering,

We should approach all Bible teaching, including commentaries and posts on CFnet, from an Acts 17:11 (NIV) perspective. I use that view when listen to the pastors and laity preach at my church.

Adam Clarke was a Methodist (hence Arminian) theologian and exegete. It took him 40 years to compose his complete commentary - in the days before computers. Matthew Henry was a Calvinist Reformed commentator.

Oz
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Henry died before the chartering of Jamestown or Plymouth rock and was a puritan .he died before his commentary. after acts 20,its his students who finished it .he was not pre mil ,they were
 
OzSpen said:
wondering,

We should approach all Bible teaching, including commentaries and posts on CFnet, from an Acts 17:11 (NIV) perspective. I use that view when listen to the pastors and laity preach at my church.

Adam Clarke was a Methodist (hence Arminian) theologian and exegete. It took him 40 years to compose his complete commentary - in the days before computers. Matthew Henry was a Calvinist Reformed commentator.

Oz
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i know several who are matthew henry fans and they aint reformed.. he losses me i am clarke or mcgee
 
Hospes said:
I'd beg to differ. First comes the desire to respond, but to actually respond requires an ability to carry out the response. I believe God provides both. I am just restating the content of these two verses:

And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that having all sufficiency in all things at all times, you may abound in every good work. 2 Corinthians 9:8 (ESV)​
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Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. Philippians 2:12–13 (ESV)​

The first verse tells us it is God who provides grace so that we are sufficient to do good works.

The second verse tells us it is God who is the agent behind our good desire and ability to do His will. We are to work very hard on our salvation all the while recognizing it is God that is providing us the will - our desire/motivation - and the ability "to do" His "good pleasure".

You see, with this view a person truly has no grounds for boasting, but if we place ourselves as a key ingredient to God's work, then we can't help but have reason to boast. We have no reason to boast.
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Why are the reformed so obsessed with boasting?

Who on this forum is boasting?
Persons I know that are believers are humble and striving.
Some are not....they're either happy and in their first experience of being born again,
or are trying to witness.

2 Corinthians 9:8 is speaking about giving toward the ministry of Paul in a cheerful way and to be generous.
He tells them that a generous farmer, in planting, will receive a generous crop.
I believe he was trying to motivate the Corinthians into making his proclamations about them show to be true
to the Macedonians....and that God would certainly give back to them in providing the grace necessary to do
this work of God. So we agree.

2 Corinthians 9:8
6Now this I say, he who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.
7Each one must do just as he has purposed in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
8And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that always having all sufficiency in everything, you may have an abundance for every good deed;



Philippians 2:12-13
God is with us to help us to do what He wants us to do.
I've never seen the working out of our salvation in fear and trembling as "working very hard" for our salvation.
I understand it more to be a reverend respect for God, which includes obeying God - as Paul said they did when he was with them - and to continue in that. Paul is saying in verse 13 that it is God's energy at work within us to help us to want what God wills from us and what will please Him.

Philippians 2:12-13
12So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling;
13for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.
 
jasonc said:
until the Wesleyan brothers arrived ,the protestants were majority Calvinist .
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OzSpen said:
wondering,

We should approach all Bible teaching, including commentaries and posts on CFnet, from an Acts 17:11 (NIV) perspective. I use that view when listen to the pastors and laity preach at my church.

Adam Clarke was a Methodist (hence Arminian) theologian and exegete. It took him 40 years to compose his complete commentary - in the days before computers. Matthew Henry was a Calvinist Reformed commentator.

Oz
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Oz,
I don't know enough about Arminian concepts.
I should find out,,,,since I keep getting labeled one.

Arminius did not believe a person was born totally depraved and had the capacity to reach out for God.
I know that he agreed with Calvin on most theology, but I can't remember what.

I should do a little study on this.
I THINK that semi-pelagians are more the opposite of Calvinists than Arminians...
but the reformed do compare themselves to Arminius as the opposite theological pardigm.
Maybe we should have a thread on this?
I wish I had more time....
 
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