The Last Day

[Marilyn C]

We both agree with God's word , we just don't agree on what it said .

It is a win for everyone in this picture , tell me I am wrong ?


Everyday when I get up and look in the mirror I see a fallible old man , but I know he is forgiven .

What do you see when you look in the mirror ?

Ha, ha. You are wrong bro.

I see someone the Lord is changing day by day. Praise Him.

Now, why are you having trouble supporting that view with scripture?

 

[hawkman]

Now, why are you having trouble supporting that view with scripture?

One more time .

8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean

It is no coincidence that in verse 8 it tells us "fine linen is the righteousness of saints " .
Now in verse fourteen we find the armies wearing what ? Wait for it , wait , and lo and behold they are wearing fine linen . The very same fine linen that is the righteousness of the saints .

Chapter 19 Revelation
1And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

2For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.

3And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

4And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.

5And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.

6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

10And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

17And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

18That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

 

[Marilyn C]

One more time .


It is no coincidence that in verse 8 it tells us "fine linen is the righteousness of saints " .
Now in verse fourteen we find the armies wearing what ? Wait for it , wait , and lo and behold they are wearing fine linen . The very same fine linen that is the righteousness of the saints .

Chapter 19 Revelation
1And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

2For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.

3And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

4And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.

5And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.

6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

10And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

17And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

18That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Thank you for your reply. I see what you are thinking. Now as I said angels also are clothed in bright linen. Thus, we need MORE scriptures to show which.

And that army is about to fight the `beast` and his army. (Rev. 19: 19) Now remember God told us that we do NOT fight flesh and blood. (2 Cor. 10: 3 - 6)

Also, a doctrine is never based on ONE scripture.

Another important reason is that the army is NOT the `wife` of the Lamb, because they are Israel NOT the Body of Christ. Israel is the wife, (Isa. 54: 5 & 6, Hos. 2: 19 & 20).

 

[hawkman]

Now as I said angels also are clothed in bright linen.

We are talking about Chapter 19 Revelation and the only angel mentioned we are not told about a garment , verse 17 .

And that army is about to fight the `beast` and his army. (Rev. 19: 19) Now remember God told us that we do NOT fight flesh and blood. (2 Cor. 10: 3 - 6)

Do you know what a show of force is ? The "we " coming from heaven and not on earth could have different marching orders but actually it is Jesus that does all the slaying in verse 21 .

Also, a doctrine is never based on ONE scripture.

Let me know when you get the Doctrine of Fine Linen ready for me to read . Good night from the mountains of Alabama .

 

[Marilyn C]

We are talking about Chapter 19 Revelation and the only angel mentioned we are not told about a garment , verse 17 .

Do you know what a show of force is ? The "we " coming from heaven and not on earth could have different marching orders but actually it is Jesus that does all the slaying in verse 21 .

Let me know when you get the Doctrine of Fine Linen ready for me to read . Good night from the mountains of Alabama .

Good night bro.
Now all of God`s word has to do with the topic not just Rev. 19..

So, we look at who the heavenly army is in God`s word.

Also, we look at who is the `wife.` It seems that is the basis of that view. So, can you prove who the `wife` is?

 

[for_his_glory]

Have you found the word armies used to describe angels in the Bible ?

Angels are not described as an "army" in the bible , "host" of heaven we would know that meant angels but we are not given that in Rev 19 .
The words army and fine linen are the indicators of this being the saints of God returning with Christ .

In a metaphorical sense the word army can mean a vast multitude like that of an army of ants, an army of locust or as Hebrews 12:22 an innumerable company (army) of angels.

We need to understand what the word "army" means in Rev 19:14. Army in that verse refers to the angelic host of heaven that return with Christ on the last day. These angels are described as being clothed in fine linen, white and clean which means these angels are clothed in purity and God's righteousness. We also read in Rev 19:8 those being the Bride of Christ will also be clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

According to scripture these angels return with Christ as they are sent out into the four corners of the earth to gather up those in the grave and alive at His coming, as we are changed in a twinkling of an eye and caught up to meet Jesus in the air and be with Him for all eternity.

Matthew 24:29-31; John 3:13; John 5:28-29; John 6:40; 1Corinthians 15:51-58; 1Thessalonians 4:13-18; Rev 19

 

[hawkman]

Good night bro.
Now all of God`s word has to do with the topic not just Rev. 19..

So, we look at who the heavenly army is in God`s word.

Also, we look at who is the `wife.` It seems that is the basis of that view. So, can you prove who the `wife` is?

At this point in the conversation I have a question I need an answer for before we can go any further .

Do you believe there are saints in heaven during Chapter 19 Revelation ? Yes or No .

 

[Marilyn C]

At this point in the conversation I have a question I need an answer for before we can go any further .

Do you believe there are saints in heaven during Chapter 19 Revelation ? Yes or No .

Yes.

 

[Marilyn C]

In a metaphorical sense the word army can mean a vast multitude like that of an army of ants, an army of locust or as Hebrews 12:22 an innumerable company (army) of angels.

We need to understand what the word "army" means in Rev 19:14. Army in that verse refers to the angelic host of heaven that return with Christ on the last day. These angels are described as being clothed in fine linen, white and clean which means these angels are clothed in purity and God's righteousness. We also read in Rev 19:8 those being the Bride of Christ will also be clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

According to scripture these angels return with Christ as they are sent out into the four corners of the earth to gather up those in the grave and alive at His coming, as we are changed in a twinkling of an eye and caught up to meet Jesus in the air and be with Him for all eternity.

Matthew 24:29-31; John 3:13; John 5:28-29; John 6:40; 1Corinthians 15:51-58; 1Thessalonians 4:13-18; Rev 19

I agree with you FHG about the angelic army however we differ in that I believe we, the Body of Christ have gone to glory prior to the tribulation.

 

[for_his_glory]

I agree with you FHG about the angelic army however we differ in that I believe we, the Body of Christ have gone to glory prior to the tribulation.

Many are taught about a pretrib Rapture, but even though I use to believe this theory, it is not found in scripture.

The word Rapture is not found in scripture as scripture calls it being caught up at the last trump, meaning the seventh trumpet of God, 1Corinthians15:51-58; 1Thessalonians 4:13-18, is explained in these verses if you read them for what they say. Rev 14:6-20 is the precursor for the catching up of the saints that makes up the true body of Christ. This is separating the wheat from the tares or in other words saints from sinners as sinners being those who have taken the mark of the beast in Rev 13. Christ is sending the angels to separate the wheat from the tares to protect His own in safety from the seven vial judgments that will take place, Rev 15:1-8; 16:1-21.

After mystery Babylon is revealed and then destroyed, Rev Chapters 17, 18,heaven rejoices her destruction as the beast and false prophet are cast into the lake of fire. It is not until we read in Rev 19 of Christ second coming as we, His Bride, have prepared ourselves, those in the grave and we that are still alive at His coming, to be caught up together to the clouds and given our new glorified bodies as we are arrayed in fine linen, clean and white, which means purity and clothed in God's righteousness, then caught up to Christ as we meet Him in the air, Matthew 24:29-31; 1Thessalonians 4:13-18;1Corinthians 15:51-58.

Rev Chapters 19, 20 we the saints of God then come down to earth with Him as Jesus plants His feet on the Mount of Olives, Zechariah 14:4, to fight the final battle as He smites the nations and now rules over them. Jesus then binds Satan for a time (I don’t believe in a literal 1000 years, but only being symbolic in numbering) as then he will be loosed for awhile to try and attack the saints of God that are encamped in Gods protection. Jesus will then cast Satan into the lake of fire with the beast and the false prophet that has caused a great falling away, 2Thessalonians 2:3. Then comes Gods final judgment on those who have rejected Christ and they are then cast into the lake of fire for their names were not found written in the Lambs Book of Life, Rev Chapter 20. Heaven and earth are restored and the New Jerusalem is ushered down and we are with the Lord for eternity.

Reference:
Genesis Chapter 49; Deuteronomy 31:28-30; Jeremiah 30:18-24; Daniel 12:1-4;Matthew 24:21-31; 25:31-33; John 6:37-40; Revelation 14:11-16

Reference to symbolic numbering of 1000:
Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15;Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2Peter 3:8.​