The Music of Devils in the CHURCH!!!

[Leinad]

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Main Performers: Kiss, Rod Stewart, Bee Gees, The Who, Led Zepplin, Elton John, Alice Cooper, Village People, Stevie Wonder, Black Sabbath, Rolling Stones, Eagles, Jethro Tull, and Deep Purple.

...I havn't laughed this hard in years....oh man, my guts hurt!
Rod Stewart is heavy metal? lol, someones deffinatley got their info messed up!

Don't forget that gutteral singing, speed metal of the Bee Gees and Stevie Wonder and the Village People too! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

hahahaha, oh ya I forgot about those LMAO!

What'd your donkey fall off of? You've become comfortable with the things of this world.

Removing rock is not about limiting God (after all He is limitless). It is however about limiting the influence of Lucifer. He is after all the prince of the power of air. We've all become more and more desensitized as the days go by. You need to ask yourself if the music you are listening to is really bringing glory to God, to the performer, or to yourself. After listening to a song, does it inspire you to be more Christ-like? Be sure to be honest when answering the questions...

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

 

[kenan]

I listen to heavy metal all the time, I'm actually an avid death metal fan. I don't have a problem with religious rock, but I don't like it all that much (I don't really listen to music with audible lyrics anyway, and alot of the time it's just instrumental music)

 

[Gabe]

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Lewis W wrote:
The bottom line is' that Christian music does not become' Christian music' until you put the lyrics in. Folks it's all in the lyrics. There is no such thing as Christian music' without the lyrics. So when you take Christian lyrics and put them to rock' metal' R&B and so on. They become Christian music. And God loves it. God is the one who created all forms of music. It was in the mind of God first, before He even formed us. Christian lyrics added to heavy metal' make it a christian song' do you get the picture ?

Ok i read this above here, no God did not write all music. God is the Creator that is true, but some music the devil wrote himself, i believe it Ezek. 13 states this. I will look that up to make sure that is the right verses.
If the music that is to glorify the Lord sounds just like the world's then it cannot be to His glory. We are to show Christ in all we do & say. The devil is
very good a telling lies, & have deceived many people with music, we have to be very wise in thes days in which we are looking for our blessed hope.
No not all music is of God, & God did not give rock & roll to glorify His name.
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And how do YOU know what music is from God and what is from the devil? If the only charge you have against Christian Rock/Metal is that it sounds like music of 'this world' then I feel for you because unfortunately every type of music imaginable sounds like or is inspired by another older (non-Christian) form of music. I love Christian Rock and Metal music and as long as the lyrics are not anti-Christian or morally vacuous, I have no problem with secular Rock and Metal music and I will bang my head to them as long as I please.

 

[Sangheili333]

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And how do YOU know what music is from God and what is from the devil?
If the only charge you have against Christian Rock/Metal is that it sounds like music of 'this world' then i feel for you because unfortunetly every type of music imaginable sounds like or is inspired by another older (non-Christian) form of music.
I love Christian Rock and Metal music and as long as the lyrics are not anti-Christian or moraly vacuous, i have no problem with secular Rock and Metal music and i will bang my head to them as long as i please.

I agree, just because it isn't Christian doesn't automatically mean it's evil. What about the Blue Oyster Cult? A famous example would be 'Don't Fear the Reaper', (More cowbell anyone?) or "Godzilla". What about The Who? Boston? DragonForce? Buckethead? (Buckethead doesn't even have lyrics, its just guitar) In my opinion, as long as its not glorifying things like murder, rape, things like that, it's ok. If there's something your conscious is telling you to stay away from, stay away from it.

 

[KingCrimson]

Not to mention all that nonsense about Hotel California being Satanic.

 

[Marc2x]

That article made me laugh... a lot. I happen to like metal, like iron maiden and metallica, i dont feel the need to kill myself or do anything violent, listening to their music makes me feel good, brightens my day, and puts a spring in my step, and most importantly doesn't make me feel seperated from god in any way.

Metallica is one of the best bands eva!!!!!

 

[turnorburn]

Not to mention all that nonsense about Hotel California being Satanic.

This Hotel California speaks to my days of drug addiction, believe me I know I ingested a freight car full of drugs including alcohol. :yes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3afiWbRGjK8

Jude

 

[Sha'zar]

for those who want to take a stance against CCM (Contemporary Christian Music), i would be interested in what Scriptures you use to condemn the specific styles. i have been to a few concerts, and the only one that i didn't really enjoy was the death metal band i got suckered into going to see. the music wasn't my style, and the lyrics were impossible to understand. did that glorify God? not to me, it was just random noise.

as other have stated, just b/c the world has used a specific style before, doesn't mean that style doesn't glorify God. i'd even go so far as to ask what Scriptures one would use to say that one can not 'rock out' in church, but that may be off-point. music moves me, speaks to me, music is my passion. if a song inspires me to dig my heels in, and stay strong in the Lord, how can that be of the devil? songs that remind us of the truths taught in the word of God is Satan's attempt to make our walk with God more shallow, or trying to get us to backslide? that does not seem logical to me at all. again, show me some Scriptures, or come up with a better, more logical argument based on Scripture, b/c that's what you'll need to make me reconsider.

 

[turnorburn]

for those who want to take a stance against CCM (Contemporary Christian Music), i would be interested in what Scriptures you use to condemn the specific styles. i have been to a few concerts, and the only one that i didn't really enjoy was the death metal band i got suckered into going to see. the music wasn't my style, and the lyrics were impossible to understand. did that glorify God? not to me, it was just random noise.

as other have stated, just b/c the world has used a specific style before, doesn't mean that style doesn't glorify God. i'd even go so far as to ask what Scriptures one would use to say that one can not 'rock out' in church, but that may be off-point. music moves me, speaks to me, music is my passion. if a song inspires me to dig my heels in, and stay strong in the Lord, how can that be of the devil? songs that remind us of the truths taught in the word of God is Satan's attempt to make our walk with God more shallow, or trying to get us to backslide? that does not seem logical to me at all. again, show me some Scriptures, or come up with a better, more logical argument based on Scripture, b/c that's what you'll need to make me reconsider.

Got Gaithers? this group is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8GZHt1C ... playnext=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S2Z9qpft10

turnorburn

 

[Sha'zar]

Got Gaithers? this group is awesome.

i grew up on music similar to Gaithers, though Gaithers was as liberal as my parents got. here's a sample of music that i like to listen to now.

Newsboys: Stay Strong

in fact, if i wanted to play devil's advocate (pun intended), i could argue that Gaithers is just as worldly as the Newsboys. first is the use of a piano, which is part percussion, part string musical instrument (drums & guitar, respectively). the piano can be just as rhythmic as drums, and as fancy-playing as a guitar. the vocal stylings used by various members is used for entertainment effect, just as any other artist uses different vocal stylings.

so again, if one was to call the Gaithers godly, and the Newsboys ungodly, there must be a Scriptural basis to differentiate the two.

 

[John]

We play this at my church (I drum for it )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJAVIPxokaE

 

[Timothy]

This is an interesting topic. To be certain there are Christians on both sides of the fence for this one. Personally I listen to a lot of contemporary Christian music and I'm truly edified to be more like Christ from it. I tend to be of the mindset that the organ and old hymns are more the "devil's music" I get absolutely nothing from them.

In my youth I attended a church that refused to listen to anything with musical instruments in it at all, and they were banned from their church (yes even organs). Thank God they could sing or that could have been bad.

Favorite all time christian musician was Rich Mullens. I'd challenge anyone to listen to his music and not be edified to be more like Christ. I remember when I was a kid he used to go on camp retreats with our church and lead worship. This was back before he became big. That was a man of God if I've ever met one.

Now days I listen to bands like skillet. There was one heavy metal band I used to love, they don't make records now days but it was Six feet Deep. One of my favorite songs was one by them called struggle, no youtube clips but here's alink to the lyrics.

God is big enough to gain glory from all forms of music.

 

[Sha'zar]

Favorite all time christian musician was Rich Mullens. I'd challenge anyone to listen to his music and not be edified to be more like Christ.

one of my all-time favorite CDs is The Jesus Record, the album Rich Mullins would've made next if he had lived. the second disc (which has the songs recorded by Ragamuffin Band) is amazing. it has moved me to tears multiple times. if you want to read more about it, you can read the Wikipedia article here.

 

[Timothy]

That is one of my favorites of his. When he died it was very sad. I've been listening to him since my teens. He used to lead worship at some of the church camps I went to as a kid and had met him a number of times. Rich was one of the coolest people ever to walk the earth. Very humble and a godly man. My playlist still has all his albums.

 

[Lewis]

We play this at my church (I drum for it )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJAVIPxokaE

That sounds good

 

[jasoncran]

many of the classics hymns were once worldy music beats done over with a christ glorify lyrics, get over it, that's ok in my book, it can glorify God now.

jason

 

[scootover7]

I agree with whoever said music is about the lyrics. I have heard some christian rap songs that give glory to God. I have also heard some christian rock and christian punk that give glory to God. Take the song J.C.H.C. by Officer Negative. See the first verse and tell me it doesn't give glory to try and live a life for Christ.



J.C. H.C.


Living for Christ is what we do (J.C. H.C.)

that's the definition of our hardcore (J.C.H.C.)


We don't need drugs or booze (J.C.H.C.)

christian punks we won't lose (J.C.H.C.)



aaah Jesus Christ , aaah Hardcore

aaah Jesus Christ, aaah Harcore



that was a christian old school punk song and while as some may not like the sound what about the lyrics? That song hypes me up everytime I play it. It hypes me to try and live more for Christ. While some may say punk is about rebellion what is wrong with rebelling against Satan? Absolutely nothing. Like someone said earlier I think too many christian put God in a box. If it takes christian rap, christian rock to get teens and others to come to christ then so be it? Let me ask those of you who say you hate christian punk, christian rock and christian rap. Would you rather your children listen to the secular rap, rock, punk ? or the christian rock and christian rap?

 

[walter]

Much of this stuff seems to be word for word from what Dave Larson used to talk about. I just tried to google him and no hits.
Larson said Kansas was satanic. That was when I knew he couldn't even be really reading the lyrics or listening to the music. He said Kansas was the average heavy metal band. Of course, we all know the average heavy metal band routinely uses violins and neo-classical structure.

 

[TaemJ]

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I believe rock bands are completely inappropriate in a church setting where we should be reflecting on the sacrifice of Jesus. The Son of God was tortured to death for us, and we should show reverence, not blast pop music and jump up and down. Too many people choose their church on how good the band is.

That said, contemporary Christian music can be great for settings outside of church.

My church is dying because the pastor refuses to play anything other than generic hymns and country songs. The elderly keep dying. The young never come.

 

[walter]

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I believe rock bands are completely inappropriate in a church setting where we should be reflecting on the sacrifice of Jesus. The Son of God was tortured to death for us, and we should show reverence, not blast pop music and jump up and down. Too many people choose their church on how good the band is.

That said, contemporary Christian music can be great for settings outside of church.

My church is dying because the pastor refuses to play anything other than generic hymns and country songs. The elderly keep dying. The young never come.

Your church is dying but it has nothing to do with the music. The heart is sick. If the spirit of God was upon your church there is no way it could die. But remember, your church is just one part of the bigger whole. I think maybe your pastor has forgotten that. I have been in churches like this. They just feel dead! It seems to me they are more about traditions and human understanding than anything else.

ANY kind of music can glorify God. The Bible says "make a joyfull NOISE unto the Lord" after all. It is also said in the Bible that the worship music could be heard miles away.

I think to many people bring their own preferences and try to ascribe them to God.