The "New Age"

[Lance_Iguana]

Fine, dwell in your ignorance and dangerous ideology.

This is why many New agers, atheists, and other religous sects look at Christianity the way they do. Not becuase of its actual teachings, but because of those that are willfully ignorant enough and snooty enough to not even understand the vast differences between religions.


Your comment about there only being 2 religions makes you look like an idiot. Not a direct attack, becuase no matter how you spin it, thats not true at all. Saying all religions are the same is insulting to those of other religions and dose make you look like an idiot. Especially since A person who worships teh Norse pantheon has little to nothing in common with a Janeist. An african Shammanism is nothing like Mormonism.


This ignorance is why many chilldren think many Christians are delluded. Its becaue they have the technology and means to research other religions and cultures and can find out for themselves that, NO THEY AREN"T ALL JUST THE SAME THING WITH DIFFERENT NAMES.

No matter how you try and spin it, their are religions that are complete opposites from each other, and your statement dose make you look like an idiot.

 

[Panin]

Fine, dwell in your ignorance and dangerous ideology.

This is why many New agers, atheists, and other religous sects look at Christianity the way they do. Not becuase of its actual teachings, but because of those that are willfully ignorant enough and snooty enough to not even understand the vast differences between religions.


Your comment about there only being 2 religions makes you look like an idiot. Not a direct attack, becuase no matter how you spin it, thats not true at all. Saying all religions are the same is insulting to those of other religions and dose make you look like an idiot. Especially since A person who worships teh Norse pantheon has little to nothing in common with a Janeist. An african Shammanism is nothing like Mormonism.


This ignorance is why many chilldren think many Christians are delluded. Its becaue they have the technology and means to research other religions and cultures and can find out for themselves that, NO THEY AREN"T ALL JUST THE SAME THING WITH DIFFERENT NAMES.

No matter how you try and spin it, their are religions that are complete opposites from each other, and your statement dose make you look like an idiot.

I dont care what you think or what New Age junkies think. They all have the same God, satan. Quite simple. Have a nice day. Not a direct attack but saying what yu said makes you appear to be a particularly nasty idiot.

 

[jasoncran]

panin, while the core of what you say is true, but it does help to know the difference as to be aware of what the person does believe, that technique is part of apolgetics. lance has a point.

that, calling each other idiot has go to stop. children be nice or no playtime on this thread for you

 

[seekandlisten]

[quote="Ed the Ned":2xd2lunp]

Considering Confucius and Buddha had similar teaching to Jesus, I'm not surprised.

I'm a bit confused now, could you please explain how Buddha's teaching is remotely similar to Jesus's teachings? I don't know Confucius teachings, but what I know about Buddha, I don't see any similarities.

Buddha taught that the relinquishing of your worldly possessions is a step to enlightenment. Jesus used one of his parables about Lazarus to teach us that Rich men aren't likely to get into heaven.Jesus lived a life of poverty and taught us not to be worldly or place our belief in Idols ( worldly devices can be used here).

Buddha taught us that deep contemplation and limiting ourselves to the acts of violence will lead to inner peace and enlightenment.
Jesus taught us to recognize our own sin and then cast it off, even made statements to Turn the Other cheek, and said " he who lives by the Sword Dies by the Sword".

Both gave up lucrative opportunities in order to dwell amongst the poor. Both where of royal heritage. Both taught about denying Evil. Both took time of inner contemplation to better know themselves. Jesus in the Desert and Buddha under the tree.

Both when asked would say they where only men and not God. Buddha told his followers that he was not God, and that they to can reach his position, if not pass him. Jesus Taught ( before the crucifixion) that is but a man, and the Father is who they should look to, but by following him, they could obtain eternal life.[/quote:2xd2lunp]

It's amazing the similarities that appear when studying various religions. An interesting point I came across lately is how the 'main' 'eastern religions' all came about around the 6th century BC, right around the same time as God scattered his people. Makes you think.

The main difference between the the 2 was that Jesus came saying he was the truth, while Buddha told us to seek the truth. Jesus taught us to submit to the Father. Buddha told us to Surpass the Father/teacher ( in a symbolic way of killing the master).

Jesus was a pretty Zen Dude.

Another point in regards to Buddha's teachings is that he spoke of a 'Holy One', Jesus, that was to come that would be able to carry us over the cycle of rebirths into the highest heaven(nirvana). I believe this was said about 500 years before Jesus came.

 

[seekandlisten]

Just an observation of most of the people I've talked in regards to 'new age'. I find that most describe religions or beliefs that they don't fully understand as 'new age'. For instance, while wiccans do have 'spell' books and such they are not allowed to use them against or harm another life according to their beliefs so you don't have to worry about getting spells cast on you by talking to one who practices wiccan or think that they are demon possessed.

 

[Panin]

panin, while the core of what you say is true, but it does help to know the difference as to be aware of what the person does believe, that technique is part of apolgetics. lance has a point.

that, calling each other idiot has go to stop. children be nice or no playtime on this thread for you

Fair enough but I didnt start with the idiot name calling. I guess this thread isnt really for me.

 

[jasoncran]

i was speaking to both parties. panin you can resolve personal issues like that via pm, as i stated earlier in another thread.

 

[Panin]

i was speaking to both parties. panin you can resolve personal issues like that via pm, as i stated earlier in another thread.

No issues.

 

[Panin]

Another point in regards to Buddha's teachings is that he spoke of a 'Holy One', Jesus, that was to come that would be able to carry us over the cycle of rebirths into the highest heaven(nirvana). I believe this was said about 500 years before Jesus came.

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WOW x7. That's phenomenal, I would love for you to show me in what Buhdist writings this is recorded please and thank you.

I will go as far as to say that all religions outside of the word of God, are DIRECT plagurisms from the word of God, and or perversions of the word of God.

 

[Panin]

The essence of the real message, in my opinion, is that a Spiritual master of the highest degree shared with us the idea of being a perfect human, and that to clothe oneself with one's true reality is akin to discovering God within and to discipline oneself to become one with such a force. At this point one will discover Self Government, and will not need outside laws to abide by.
The clues are in between the diluted and misleading parts of the bible, and other texts outside the bible. The clues are also in every cultural spiritual tradition. But they are only signposts. The real work has to occur within, a few "yards" past the last bit of text ever written or read.

This how a new the NEw Age interpret Christ. One example.

 

[Lance_Iguana]

[quote:3e8bhur7]
Another point in regards to Buddha's teachings is that he spoke of a 'Holy One', Jesus, that was to come that would be able to carry us over the cycle of rebirths into the highest heaven(nirvana). I believe this was said about 500 years before Jesus came.

WOW x7. That's phenomenal, I would love for you to show me in what Buhdist writings this is recorded please and thank you.

I will go as far as to say that all religions outside of the word of God, are DIRECT plagurisms from the word of God, and or perversions of the word of God.[/quote:3e8bhur7]
Wait, you stated that you don't care what other religions think, have shown ignorance of other religions, and now are claiming they are all plagerisms of Christianity?

That is outright false.

How are pagan religions with multiple gods anywhere near a plagerism of Christianity? How are Religions that focus on Avatars plagarisms of Christianity? How are religions that focus on Reincarnations rip offs of Christianity?

How is Hinduism a ripp off? How is Jainism a ripoff? How is Zoraster a rip off? How is Cthulu, Flying speghetti Monster, Shamanism, and voodoo a rip off?


Panin have you actually read up on any religions outside of Christianity? I'd also like you to explain how the Greek Masters such as Plato, Aristotle, Pythagoris, Socratis, Tolemy, and Cynica ripped off Christianity when they lived hundreds of years before Jesus was borne.

 

[seekandlisten]

Another point in regards to Buddha's teachings is that he spoke of a 'Holy One', Jesus, that was to come that would be able to carry us over the cycle of rebirths into the highest heaven(nirvana). I believe this was said about 500 years before Jesus came.

Just for clarification, Buddha spoke of a 'Holy One' but not specifically Jesus, we just can see now Jesus would fit that description. I can look up my reference for this somewhere if someone really wants to know but I'm to tired right now and it would require some digging.

 

[Panin]

That is outright false.

How are pagan religions with multiple gods anywhere near a plagerism of Christianity? How are Religions that focus on Avatars plagarisms of Christianity? How are religions that focus on Reincarnations rip offs of Christianity?

How is Hinduism a ripp off? How is Jainism a ripoff? How is Zoraster a rip off? How is Cthulu, Flying speghetti Monster, Shamanism, and voodoo a rip off?


Panin have you actually read up on any religions outside of Christianity? I'd also like you to explain how the Greek Masters such as Plato, Aristotle, Pythagoris, Socratis, Tolemy, and Cynica ripped off Christianity when they lived hundreds of years before Jesus was borne.

Goodpoint. Your right. Im wrong. I take that back.

I believe alot of buhdist teachings are a plagurism of the bible though. Thats why Im very intersted to see if budha spke of the coming of christ as stated by someone here.

 

[Lance_Iguana]

That is outright false.

How are pagan religions with multiple gods anywhere near a plagerism of Christianity? How are Religions that focus on Avatars plagarisms of Christianity? How are religions that focus on Reincarnations rip offs of Christianity?

How is Hinduism a ripp off? How is Jainism a ripoff? How is Zoraster a rip off? How is Cthulu, Flying speghetti Monster, Shamanism, and voodoo a rip off?


Panin have you actually read up on any religions outside of Christianity? I'd also like you to explain how the Greek Masters such as Plato, Aristotle, Pythagoris, Socratis, Tolemy, and Cynica ripped off Christianity when they lived hundreds of years before Jesus was borne.

Goodpoint. Your right. Im wrong. I take that back.

I believe alot of buhdist teachings are a plagurism of the bible though. Thats why Im very intersted to see if budha spke of the coming of christ as stated by someone here.

Buhhdism predates the Bible by almost 600 years. And Buhhda himself predates Jesus by 500 years. Rome interacted with Buhhdist munks before Jesus was crucified or spoke to the People of Rome.

 

[researcher]

Another point in regards to Buddha's teachings is that he spoke of a 'Holy One', Jesus, that was to come that would be able to carry us over the cycle of rebirths into the highest heaven(nirvana). I believe this was said about 500 years before Jesus came.

Just for clarification, Buddha spoke of a 'Holy One' but not specifically Jesus, we just can see now Jesus would fit that description. I can look up my reference for this somewhere if someone really wants to know but I'm to tired right now and it would require some digging.

"In the Buddhist Scriptures, there is a prophecy from about 500 B.C. (Before Christ) of the "Holy One" who would come. One who would lead the people away from the old way, and introduce a new way."

Buddha described the "Holy One" by saying;

"in the palm of his hands and in the flat of his feet will be the design of a disk, in his side will be a stab wound; and his forehead will have many marks like scars...."

http://cambodiaforjesus.com/ (1/4th down the page)

 

[Lance_Iguana]

Another point in regards to Buddha's teachings is that he spoke of a 'Holy One', Jesus, that was to come that would be able to carry us over the cycle of rebirths into the highest heaven(nirvana). I believe this was said about 500 years before Jesus came.

Just for clarification, Buddha spoke of a 'Holy One' but not specifically Jesus, we just can see now Jesus would fit that description. I can look up my reference for this somewhere if someone really wants to know but I'm to tired right now and it would require some digging.

"In the Buddhist Scriptures, there is a prophecy from about 500 B.C. (Before Christ) of the "Holy One" who would come. One who would lead the people away from the old way, and introduce a new way."

Buddha described the "Holy One" by saying;

"in the palm of his hands and in the flat of his feet will be the design of a disk, in his side will be a stab wound; and his forehead will have many marks like scars...."

http://cambodiaforjesus.com/ (1/4th down the page)

I don't know if I can trust this source. Especially since half way down the page its states "Allah is never mentioned in the Bible". Did anyone ever tell the people who made that site that Allah is just arabic for God, even the Christians and Jews call God Allah in the Middle east. Of course God isn't called Allah in English or Asian Translations, Allah is language specific.

 

[researcher]

I don't know if I can trust this source. Especially since half way down the page its states "Allah is never mentioned in the Bible". Did anyone ever tell the people who made that site that Allah is just arabic for God, even the Christians and Jews call God Allah in the Middle east. Of course God isn't called Allah in English or Asian Translations, Allah is language specific.

Not saying it's true. Just a reference to the quote he was talking about. ;)

 

[Lance_Iguana]

I don't know if I can trust this source. Especially since half way down the page its states "Allah is never mentioned in the Bible". Did anyone ever tell the people who made that site that Allah is just arabic for God, even the Christians and Jews call God Allah in the Middle east. Of course God isn't called Allah in English or Asian Translations, Allah is language specific.

Not saying it's true. Just a reference to the quote he was talking about. ;)

Gotcha ;)

 

[seekandlisten]

I don't know if I can trust this source. Especially since half way down the page its states "Allah is never mentioned in the Bible". Did anyone ever tell the people who made that site that Allah is just arabic for God, even the Christians and Jews call God Allah in the Middle east. Of course God isn't called Allah in English or Asian Translations, Allah is language specific.

Not saying it's true. Just a reference to the quote he was talking about. ;)

Gotcha ;)

http://paul-timothy.net/pages/jesus/doc ... _jesus.pdf

http://bibleprobe.com/buddhatoldofjesus.htm

here's where the article I was reading referenced it.

 

[Panin]

Thirteen Doctrines Of The New Age

(1) The children of the future will serve a One World (Planetary Government) and live in a One World Culture. (2) Patriotism to one's country must be abolished and all national barriers destroyed in order to build a New One World Order. (3) Children will accept that Eastern mystical religion is to be married to the Christianity of the West to forge a new, unified social and religious order of Universal Truths. (4) Teenagers and youth will rebel and revolt against their parents and against authority to help usher in the New Age World Order. (5) Youth and all of humanity must accept that the time will inevitably come when grown-ups who refuse to become part of the New Age will have to be killed. They are to be considered as lowly germs, an infection or blot on humanity that must be stamped out and eradicated. (6) The traditional family unit is not desirable for the Aquarian, or New Age. Children belong to the government, to the world and the community--the human group--not to their parents. A new kind of family unit must inevitably come into existence. (7) Young people must be taught to believe in reincarnation and karma (the Law of Rebirth) rather than the resurrection and judgment teaching of the Bible. This belief must guide behavior, especially the sexual conduct.

(8) Absurd and immature notions of sin and guilt must not be imparted to children by parents, teachers, pastors and other adults. A more permissive and worldly attitude must be adopted. (9) Children are to be taught that all religions--Christianity, Witchcraft, Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Judaism, Paganism, etc.--are equally worthwhile and that it doesn't matter in which god one believes. (10) The new generation of youth must recognize that Jesus did not come to save or convert anyone; because no one is lost. (11) Christian doctrines, such as that of heaven, hell, and judgment, must be discarded and the theology of the Old Testament must be repudiated. (12) A New Age World Religion must be established without Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. The Christian Church is dead and must be replaced. (13) The coming New Age World Religion will emphasize the unity of all religions while rejecting Jesus Christ's profound Biblical statement, I am the way, the truth and the life.