The only Higher education

[Heidi]

The only higher education that exists is to go to the only source higher than man; God himself. If all men lived according to the Ten Commandments and Jesus's principles:

1) Love thy neighbor as thyself
2) Every matter must be established by at least 2 or three witnesses
3) Not to incur debt

Then we wouldn't have the problems we do in the world. But unfortunately because of human pride man acts like a 6-year old who says; "I want to do it myself!"

The state of to the world is living evidence of what happens when man abandons God and does things himself; greed, envy, pride, lust, sloth, anger, and gluttony. And the more that people abandon the real higher educater, the worse the world is going to get.

 

[Sparkey]

In any case, I am more than ½ century older than the "6-year-old" you mention and should know better; pardon me for sticking myself into a quarrel not my own.

I do value knowledge and compare it to silver. Most of my life has been spent as a "knowledge whore" where I didn't care where the truth came from at all, it didn't matter. Can I look to science to help me study what God did by observing creation? You bet I can. I don't accept the conclusions about God that are expounded by some but I do love to study the facts. You're play on words is amusing though.

"Higher Education", of course, means formal education beyond High School - or education that is "higher than 12th grade". College and University level education isn't bad in and of itself, but then, you knew that. Every good gift descends down from the Father of Lights, our Father, our God.

~Sparrow

 

[jasoncran]

i believe in college yes, are there bad things in college yes, sin , yes, shoot there's sin in the church, tv, me, you , military,government. where do we stop.

A good biblical base will help deal with the lies of men, but THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH SEEKING UNDERSTANDING OF CREATION, the problem i have is that some scientists arent really seeking answers but only what verifies the naturatlist point of view

I, however, dont want to get into the debate of is evolution vs creationism or anyother here.
I will say this ,heidi, have you seen a doctor, drive a car, you use a pc,laptoop, or anyother computer.
Those things are either a type of science, or were invented by a scientists in a specific field.

Science can be a tool, and like any tool used for good or bad.

jason

 

[Heidi]

In any case, I am more than ½ century older than the "6-year-old" you mention and should know better; pardon me for sticking myself into a quarrel not my own.

I do value knowledge and compare it to silver. Most of my life has been spent as a "knowledge whore" where I didn't care where the truth came from at all, it didn't matter. Can I look to science to help me study what God did by observing creation? You bet I can. I don't accept the conclusions about God that are expounded by some but I do love to study the facts. You're play on words is amusing though.

"Higher Education", of course, means formal education beyond High School - or education that is "higher than 12th grade". College and University level education isn't bad in and of itself, but then, you knew that. Every good gift descends down from the Father of Lights, our Father, our God.

~Sparrow

Sorry but as I pointed out, the education that goes beyond high school is nothing more than confusion and lies that promote sin. That's why Jesus tells us in MT. 23:10 that we have ONE teacher and that is Christ." So any teaching that doesn't follow Christ's teaching is "godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge.." as 1 Timothy 6:20 says.

None of the "knowledge' taught in universities will help you in eternity. You won't even remember it. Your life is a mere breath compared to all of eternity. So read Ecclesisates to see that everything is meaningless except the knowledge of God. ;)

 

[jasoncran]

So,one cant be a scientist then, or a doctor, and teacher,professor. I think you should listen to Ravi Zacharias. He has a phd in philosohy yet he's ordained and has the calling to use apologetics to win souls. He teaches on others religions and compares them to christ and other issues, He uses logic, faith and other means. quite effectively.

We need christians as doctors, lawyers, teachers,professors,scientist. What a wittness can they be! Newton believed in christ and explained the the theory of gravity and came up with calculus.

jason

 

[Heidi]

i believe in college yes, are there bad things in college yes, sin , yes, shoot there's sin in the church, tv, me, you , military,government. where do we stop.

A good biblical base will help deal with the lies of men, but THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH SEEKING UNDERSTANDING OF CREATION, the problem i have is that some scientists arent really seeking answers but only what verifies the naturatlist point of view

I, however, dont want to get into the debate of is evolution vs creationism or anyother here.
I will say this ,heidi, have you seen a doctor, drive a car, you use a pc,laptoop, or anyother computer.
Those things are either a type of science, or were invented by a scientists in a specific field.

Science can be a tool, and like any tool used for good or bad.

jason

You need to see what kind of knowledge lasts throughout eternity because mark this; nothing you learn in college can help you when you die. And since tomorrow isn't guaranteed to any of us, then we need to make sure that we are learning what's important, not useless. We also need to make sure that we can discern truth from fiction or we will endorse fantasies such as global warming and spend time trying to counteract things that aren't destroying us and ignoring the things that are.

 

[jasoncran]

Have you graduated high school, i was raised jw and they used to preach that as well, oops they even they changed their mind.

jason

 

[Heidi]

here's what Christians know that university professors don't know:

1) That God created the world
2) Why God created the world
3) That God created the world out of water
4) How long it too for God to create the world
5) Why the 7 day week corresponds to the 7 day creation
6) Why humans breed only humans and each animal breeds its own kind
7) Who our ancestors were
8)Why our ancestors were humans, not animals
9) That humans were created separately from the animals and why
10) That every matter must be established by at least 2 or 3 witnesses
11) that events not witnessed are called delusions
12) The history of the Jews
13) The reasons for what's happening in the Middle east
14) What sin is
15) What heaven and hell are
16) How to get to heaven or hell
17) Why Jesus is the only way to God
18) Why the ten commandments are the best way to live
19) Who God is and what His plan for mankind is
20) Why sin will be punished
21) What love is
22) What marriage is
23) Why marriage is between a man and a woman
24) Why promiscuity is harmful
25) Why pursuing the desires of the flesh only leads to death
25) What happens after we die
26) How to handle finances

The above is just the tip of the iceberg of what Christians know since we know that only God is infallible. And since we know who Jesus is, we also know who God is. You won't find any of the above in universities. All you'll find are disagreements, confusion and lies. And none of them will help you for eternity.

 

[jasoncran]

i know that. That why i said to have a good biblical base, you can witness there as well. Recenlty a friend of mine who's not a christian told me his daughter has a philosophy professor that beleives in smoking pot and it should be legal. He told the students on day one, yes evil, but an oppornunity.

The final exam is to read a book on ten reasons why pot should be legal, and support of disagree. If it was me i'd pray and let the Lord lead my response, using the bible,scientific studies, Btw my wife used to smoke like it was nothing.

I like to go to a christian college. But are you safer there no, sin is everywhere, even christian colleges and christain primary education. That's my point i know what you are saying, but at work i run into the same attitiudes and believes,what then hide and avoid work, how shall the lost know.

json

 

[Heidi]

yeah, the "wisdom" of the world is indeed foolishness in God's sight. I'm glad that you can see that as well.

 

[Free]

Sorry but as I pointed out, the education that goes beyond high school is nothing more than confusion and lies that promote sin. That's why Jesus tells us in MT. 23:10 that we have ONE teacher and that is Christ." So any teaching that doesn't follow Christ's teaching is "godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge.." as 1 Timothy 6:20 says.

None of the "knowledge' taught in universities will help you in eternity. You won't even remember it. Your life is a mere breath compared to all of eternity. So read Ecclesisates to see that everything is meaningless except the knowledge of God. ;)

Please, tell me, what is the difference between a teacher in grade 1 and a university professor? You keep on falsely using Matt 23:10 as though it somehow supports your nonsense. However, since you are using that to go against teaching in university, then in order to be consistent, you must also use it to go against all teachers--kindergarten, elementary, etc. I could probably even throw in pastor, Bible teacher, and Sunday school teacher, since none of them are Jesus.

Did you finish high school? Were you home-schooled?

 

[jasoncran]

Sorry but as I pointed out, the education that goes beyond high school is nothing more than confusion and lies that promote sin. That's why Jesus tells us in MT. 23:10 that we have ONE teacher and that is Christ." So any teaching that doesn't follow Christ's teaching is "godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge.." as 1 Timothy 6:20 says.

None of the "knowledge' taught in universities will help you in eternity. You won't even remember it. Your life is a mere breath compared to all of eternity. So read Ecclesisates to see that everything is meaningless except the knowledge of God. ;)

Please, tell me, what is the difference between a teacher in grade 1 and a university professor? You keep on falsely using Matt 23:10 as though it somehow supports your nonsense. However, since you are using that to go against teaching in university, then in order to be consistent, you must also use it to go against all teachers--kindergarten, elementary, etc. I could probably even throw in pastor, Bible teacher, and Sunday school teacher, since none of them are Jesus.

Did you finish high school? Were you home-schooled?

please dont put all homeschoolers in america like this one, aethist in america do home-school as well.
jason

 

[Free]

Please, tell me, what is the difference between a teacher in grade 1 and a university professor? You keep on falsely using Matt 23:10 as though it somehow supports your nonsense. However, since you are using that to go against teaching in university, then in order to be consistent, you must also use it to go against all teachers--kindergarten, elementary, etc. I could probably even throw in pastor, Bible teacher, and Sunday school teacher, since none of them are Jesus.

Did you finish high school? Were you home-schooled?

please dont put all homeschoolers in america like this one, aethist in america do home-school as well.
jason

No worries, I certainly don't. I know that on average they tend to do better.

 

[wavy]

Free....


why do you even try?

Finis,
Eric

 

[Free]

I don't know Eric. :gah It's like how Seinfeld said on a rerun the other day about how people go by a bad accident and they don't want to look but they can't help it.

I guess in part I want to make sure that young Christians don't think that it is okay to believe this stuff and that atheists or agnostics don't think that this is typical. Although, even someone partially informed knows better.

 

[Sparkey]

Re: The only incendiary comment

Sorry but as I pointed out, the education that goes beyond high school is nothing more than confusion and lies that promote sin.

I hate all who make broad sweeping generalizations and demand my right to intolerance!

• <That wasn't too incendiary or broad, was it?>

~Sparrow

Poetic Justice Department:
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As I was making my "incendiary" comment on the forum here there was something happening in my kitchen. Yep, The Burning of the Dinner of Sparrow. <Gonna eat it anyway. Why? Because I deserve it.>

-Spar

 

[Heidi]

What's that picture got to do with anything? :o It certainly can't help anyone on his deathbed. In fact, it won't even be remembered by humans when they die. ;)

 

[jasoncran]

sparrowhawke, that's bad burnt hamburgers ich.

 

[Sparkey]

What's that picture got to do with anything? It certainly can't help anyone on his deathbed. In fact, it won't even be remembered by humans when they die. ;)

Who's on their deathbed?

 

[Free]

What's that picture got to do with anything? :o It certainly can't help anyone on his deathbed. In fact, it won't even be remembered by humans when they die. ;)

Who's on their deathbed?

Apparently someone who can't see the picture of your hamburger.