Gary
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If the Blood of Jesus is removed as a covering there no longer remains a sacrifice for sin.
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The Passover of God
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If the Blood of Jesus is removed as a covering there no longer remains a sacrifice for sin.
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Gary
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I could not make that choice.. .. To my mind that is like asking Can God create a rock He can not lift...
ezrider
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I understand that, but at the same time I challenge you, if you had to choose one, which would it be and why?
Jethro Bodine
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Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Jethro Bodine
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They are one and the same thing, so I don't see how I could choose one and not the other.
Christ's blood is God's grace in this matter of salvation and the forgiveness of sin.
Jethro Bodine
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Good job. That was the other reference I was grasping for.
"...the exceeding riches of his grace (expressed) in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus" (vs. 7)
Jethro Bodine
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Lol, that's what I was thinking when I was searching for it.
ezrider
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And yet what remains when there remains no sacrifice for sin?
Gary
Member
Death.
Hebrews 10
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
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Jethro Bodine
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I knew you'd find it.
Gary
Member
I knew you'd find it.
I stumbled across it as I was searching for something else.
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ezrider
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The Blood of Christ. Because even if I made the wrong choice, I'm forgiven.
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I choose Grace, and Grace all day long. The Grace of God has been from everlasting, and shall be to everlasting. The covenant made with Abraham was based upon Faith through the Grace of God. The Blood of Christ was not needed that Abraham might live according to the Grace bestowed upon him by the Lord. The Blood of Christ was a one time event, a sacrifice once for all time. And like the scripture says in the book of Hebrews, that if you sin willingly after receiving the gift of God, then there remains no more sacrifices for sin, which would then make his blood of none effect. But if there remains to me no more sacrifice for sin, then the Faith that lies within my heart shall rest in the Grace that the Lord has bestowed upon me.
ezrider
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The correct answer would be Grace, for those who trust in the Lord.
Gary
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"but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries."
That doesn't sound like Grace.
So you want to go back to sacrificing animals? Why?
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Jethro Bodine
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God's grace in the form of the blood of Christ has been the basis for the saving power of faith from the beginning of time:
18 knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers,
19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.
20 For He was foreknown before the foundation of the world, but has appeared in these last times for the sake of you
21 who through Him are believers in God...
(1 Peter 1:18-21 NASB)
9 ...His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity,
10 but now has been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Christ Jesus...
(2 Timothy 1:9-10 NASB)
Abraham had faith that God would provide a son that would inherit the promises made to him. That is the faith that justifies. We have that same faith. We also believe God's word that he has provided a Son that inherits the blessing on our behalf. That Son, of course, being Jesus.
It's impossible to separate the faith that justifies from the promise of the son that God would provide who would lay hold of the blessings God has promised.
ezrider
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Why would Grace require going back to a sacrifice. For those whom hold a certain fearful expectation of judgement and fiery indignation, I can promise you one thing: they have never known the Grace of God. Many people live in doubt and fear that the blood of Christ no longer covers their sin, and they doubt their salvation. The knowledge of sin will always cause me to doubt my salvation. The knowledge of God's Grace within me will never leave doubt.
Jethro Bodine
Member
26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins... (Hebrews 10:26 NASB)
There is no sacrifice given to atone for the sin of rejecting the sacrifice for sin. What sacrifice has been given to atone for the sin of rejecting the sacrifice God has given for the atonement of sin? There is none, of course.
There is no sacrifice given to atone for the sin of rejecting the sacrifice for sin. What sacrifice has been given to atone for the sin of rejecting the sacrifice God has given for the atonement of sin? There is none, of course.