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The rich can't survive without the poor
- Thread starter Classik
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Classik what year were you born?
Some people are born to be leaders some to be followers, we need each other.
Some are born to implement the ideas others are born to come up with..
We are not the same. A brother of mine is a doctor... I dont have the kind of smarts it takes to be a doctor....Another pours concrete i would not want them to think they could do what the other does...the doctor does not have the smarts it take to pour cement. We are not the same.....
Doing what ever we do with our brains or brawn should be done as unto the Lord.
Some people are born to be leaders some to be followers, we need each other.
Some are born to implement the ideas others are born to come up with..
We are not the same. A brother of mine is a doctor... I dont have the kind of smarts it takes to be a doctor....Another pours concrete i would not want them to think they could do what the other does...the doctor does not have the smarts it take to pour cement. We are not the same.....
Doing what ever we do with our brains or brawn should be done as unto the Lord.
stovebolts
Member
"Stovebolts said:
You have taken my comment totally out of context.
Let's talk morals here ok? Stealing, lying, cheating and extorting. These are all bad things correct?
Now then, lets put this in perspective. The only thing different from some of the very rich, some of the government and some of the poor are how those above mentioned traits are made manifest.
You may say, "The poor person is only exploiting the system for a few bucks while the rich man is exploiting the system for millions". But the fact remains that stealing, lying, cheating and extortion remains.
It's a heart condition pebbles.
But more to my point. When the government oppresses the poor by trapping them into their dysfunctional system of welfare, it creates an environment where the poor will resort to lying, cheating and extortion to obtain the things they feel they are entitled to.
And that my dear, is the point I am making..
Classik
Member
Perfect, reba. Isn't this post exactly what am talking about? At the end bugs cant' do without the skin. (some are born to steal from gov and some are born to skin the poor alive)
A presidential handshake
Potluck
Member
I can honestly say Ive never thought, "If my neighbor wasn't so darn wealthy I could do this or that. But because of his excessive wealth I can't do what I intended."
So let's get the government to take more from them and give it to people more in need.
Hey now, that sounds just ducky!
That's like a robber takes your wallet and when he turns away and runs down the street you yell after him, "Hey! Hold on there! Let's go to my place and you can take all my jewelry too!"
So, how does that work?
Well, I've heard rumors that some politicians are padding the pockets of the rich for political gain. The rich in turn fund part or most of the politician's campaign with the intent of continuing the exchange. A $50,000 donation gets you almost half a million. Not a bad take.
Now, where would government officials get that kind of dough?
From those who make money! The middle class perhaps? And the government can take an additional small portion in higher taxes from the rich to make the protesters happy. After all, that's what they want anyway. Ok, so it costs the rich an extra few grand on top of the $50,000 donation. It makes the politicians look great, they get reelected for doing such a fine job, doing the right thing and the government taps the middle class as always to pay for it. Business as usual. The rich get a large return on their donation and "look good" money when government...
a) Takes more to fund education
(money goes to the big public unions who supported the politician with donations)
b) Invests in green energy
(to people who own these businesses that made campaign donations)
c) Increases or adds entitlements
(grow government providing more public sector jobs that are financed through more taxes)
When education turns out not to be what it's supposed to be the politician campaigns on the issue after the public has forgotten the last time they were tapped. (Usually a couple years)
When the green energy business falls apart nobody knows where the money went, the employees are given something to help keep them from complaining until it all blows over (makes the politician look good too).
When the people get used to the increase in entitlements they are more likely to vote for those giving them the money for doing the right thing.
If anyone thinks government is the answer to punishing the rich think again. You're being scammed, led around like a bull with a ring in his nose. Happily. In the end you'll wind up with less individual freedom and more government intervention. Led to the slaughter.
So go ahead and tell the robber to follow you home. Go ahead and ask the government to do more, to fix things, to make it the government's job to see everyone gets their fair share. Let me know how that works out for ya.
Or one could look at Europe where that bull has already been made into steaks and hamburger.
So let's get the government to take more from them and give it to people more in need.
Hey now, that sounds just ducky!
That's like a robber takes your wallet and when he turns away and runs down the street you yell after him, "Hey! Hold on there! Let's go to my place and you can take all my jewelry too!"
So, how does that work?
Well, I've heard rumors that some politicians are padding the pockets of the rich for political gain. The rich in turn fund part or most of the politician's campaign with the intent of continuing the exchange. A $50,000 donation gets you almost half a million. Not a bad take.
Now, where would government officials get that kind of dough?
From those who make money! The middle class perhaps? And the government can take an additional small portion in higher taxes from the rich to make the protesters happy. After all, that's what they want anyway. Ok, so it costs the rich an extra few grand on top of the $50,000 donation. It makes the politicians look great, they get reelected for doing such a fine job, doing the right thing and the government taps the middle class as always to pay for it. Business as usual. The rich get a large return on their donation and "look good" money when government...
a) Takes more to fund education
(money goes to the big public unions who supported the politician with donations)
b) Invests in green energy
(to people who own these businesses that made campaign donations)
c) Increases or adds entitlements
(grow government providing more public sector jobs that are financed through more taxes)
When education turns out not to be what it's supposed to be the politician campaigns on the issue after the public has forgotten the last time they were tapped. (Usually a couple years)
When the green energy business falls apart nobody knows where the money went, the employees are given something to help keep them from complaining until it all blows over (makes the politician look good too).
When the people get used to the increase in entitlements they are more likely to vote for those giving them the money for doing the right thing.
If anyone thinks government is the answer to punishing the rich think again. You're being scammed, led around like a bull with a ring in his nose. Happily. In the end you'll wind up with less individual freedom and more government intervention. Led to the slaughter.
So go ahead and tell the robber to follow you home. Go ahead and ask the government to do more, to fix things, to make it the government's job to see everyone gets their fair share. Let me know how that works out for ya.
Or one could look at Europe where that bull has already been made into steaks and hamburger.
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Who is the government?
About 1960 i lived in one of the richest areas of USA. My parents worked for a family that was considered to be the 4th richest, in $$$, family in the country at that time. We lived on their ranch..
What is saw was sad, kids shipped of to boarding schools, then to camp, then the ranch... That family had problems i started realizing how well off i was... My parents kept this brat, me, Mom and Dad spent time in prayer for us kids...We ate together we lived together...
The point, money does not stop your problems it just changes them. With out God all the wealth on earth is nothing.
What is saw was sad, kids shipped of to boarding schools, then to camp, then the ranch... That family had problems i started realizing how well off i was... My parents kept this brat, me, Mom and Dad spent time in prayer for us kids...We ate together we lived together...
The point, money does not stop your problems it just changes them. With out God all the wealth on earth is nothing.
Classik
Member
normally, Citizens are part of the gov. The major people have big:
bug the skin, and also skin the bug
Classik
Member
Potluck for presidenttotopic
Hail Mr. president, Classik is with you!
Blessed are you among kings and Lords!
Blessed are your citizens!
Heaven in disguise!
Build us a new Camp Nou in US - and give Americans real Spanish kind of soccer!
American football is no football at all.
Dethrone the bugs and enthrone the skin!
Heavy tax on gays!
Convert terrorists into pastors!
Stones and Bricks and Pebbles now praising God!
Discourage abortion and encourage 'be fruitful and multiply the earth!
Give unto Mike
and take away bullets from 'Soncran.totopic
Classik
Member
:toofunny :toofunny
jasoncran
Member
however, we dont kill teamplayers or fans of the opposing teams when a victory or loss has occured.
:nod
soccer elsewhere does do that., the sport isnt bad but the fanatical worship of it is. get a grip.its wrong to kill fellow man for blood and yet oh dear you lossed the game. no you die.
what a mentality.
im sorry i hate violence and only defend my country as its the right thing to do but i take no glee in war.
:nod
soccer elsewhere does do that., the sport isnt bad but the fanatical worship of it is. get a grip.its wrong to kill fellow man for blood and yet oh dear you lossed the game. no you die.
what a mentality.
im sorry i hate violence and only defend my country as its the right thing to do but i take no glee in war.
Classik
Member
You are right. I hate violence too.
It's also in sports that you notice all these bodies use the poor (although the players, athletes etc gain alot, not all players). Whatever money they make goes to the individual clubs. Little is paid to the players!
How much do all these boxers, wrestlers, players etc make? How much goes to the clubs? The directors and the big guys with big heads chop all the money.
Tomorrow the same group of people are asked to go back and win trophies! When they fail to perform well, or when they lose the clubs threaten to kick them away:bigfrown
And when they are kicked away they begin life afresh. From where?
No one wants to be kicked away. You see players, wrestlers etc practising like crazy in order to appease these clubs.
At the end most of these people develope horrible ailments as a result of stress.
Why do most players resign? Age? That's just part of it. Majority developed heart problems and quit - not that they no longer want money.
It's also in sports that you notice all these bodies use the poor (although the players, athletes etc gain alot, not all players). Whatever money they make goes to the individual clubs. Little is paid to the players!
How much do all these boxers, wrestlers, players etc make? How much goes to the clubs? The directors and the big guys with big heads chop all the money.
Tomorrow the same group of people are asked to go back and win trophies! When they fail to perform well, or when they lose the clubs threaten to kick them away:bigfrown
And when they are kicked away they begin life afresh. From where?
No one wants to be kicked away. You see players, wrestlers etc practising like crazy in order to appease these clubs.
At the end most of these people develope horrible ailments as a result of stress.
Why do most players resign? Age? That's just part of it. Majority developed heart problems and quit - not that they no longer want money.
jasoncran
Member
ones life must be balenced. we have a professional boxer that trains here with us
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McGirt_Jr.
he is humble and doesnt act like he is that good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McGirt_Jr.
he is humble and doesnt act like he is that good.
Kaileymarie
Member
I don't feel that they are stealing from the rich. If the government didn't have so much wasteful spending and wasn't so corrupt... It's ridiculous the money they blow.. And it's all borrowed from private banks.. The government raises our taxes and they don't get enough done. They raise the prices of food and feed us things that aren't even real food!! Our soldiers are in other countries when they should be in our schools and such. Besides, the government WANTS you to rely on them.
