The Simplicity of the Gospel

[Iconoclast]

Out of time.
Because actually, you do preach another gospel! This is serious. You and all Calvinists must repent ASAP.Delete your last few posts before others see how foolish your ideas ate
The next verse speaks of such people as being accursed.

Another foolish post.
Stop embarrasing yourself.
You jumped in the deep end of the pool and do not know how to swim.
Delete these foolish posts before people read and discover how much error you spue forth.
Do it quickly.

 

[Iconoclast]

You have followed the teachings of men whose doctrine was based upon their opinions and not the Bible.

These teachers who God has given to the church, have gorget more scripture than you will ever know.
You cannot take any posted link, go line by line, and offer correction.
No you just attack what you cannot begin to understand.

 

[miamited]

Jesus has defeated sin, death and the devil and now sits in heaven as the "King of Kings and the Lord of Lord's" Revelation 19-16. "So that whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.

You need to be saved from the penalty of sin. "The soul that sins must die" This is eternal spiritual death.

Hi Robert Pate

Yep!! You're absolutely right!! Praise God!! But you aren't remembering Paul's words to you about the plight of those that you are sharing with.

Yes!!! Yep!!!!! You're on this side of your testimony for Jesus and you know for an absolute irrefutable proof that Jesus won the victory over sin. Yep!!!! That's what you know.

Do not forget, brother s and sisters, that you were once just like them. So, guess what? Did you know that Jesus died for your sins and gained the victory... before you knew that Jesus died for your sin and gained the victory?

They live in ignorance of the things of God. So, what you say that they can understand and latch on to is that you're condemning them as a sinner. They don't know Jesus. They don't know God. They know nothing about His mercy and grace.


So, I just say all that, that when we evangelize the lost, we need to be aware that leading off with sin isn't the best option, as I see it.

God bless,
Ted

 

[Christ_empowered]

I dunno

I can’t do church. Outcast. I thought…before God willed recovery from involuntary shock and other things that happened…that it was all on me. My sins or to use the current psych term poor life choices. Thing is…

I’m a modern day outcast and the backstory is rather ridiculous which happens. Per scripture nothing has happened or is happening or will happen to me that has not happened to other people. Jesus Christ saw fit to have mercy and then brought me to my senses and now…

Rambling. The backstory and outcast status aspects are an issue because…

Churches don’t seem to be all that big into community redemption sound doctrine or…???

Barns and some other corporations do studies on the modern Protestant church. Interesting if somewhat depressing reading material. Apparently a lot of reform churches in the us west meet criteria for biblical worldview etc. here In Bible Belt USA there’s lots and lots of churches…

And lots and lots of social fragmentation and not do sound doctrine and…frustration. Hatred even within the church.

So…now that I’m healthy and smart and fairly normal and living a safe law abiding peaceful life in Christ and I would like to find a church where I can contribute and grow..,

I find that lots of people want a decent church they can work with…

But fewer and fewer of us are finding it. Maybe it’s better in some other areas?

The Good News still saves thank God.

 

[Robert Pate]

These teachers who God has given to the church, have gorget more scripture than you will ever know.
You cannot take any posted link, go line by line, and offer correction.
No you just attack what you cannot begin to understand.

I judge everything in the light of the historical Gospel of Jesus Christ. Not upon what some man wrote.

 

[Robert Pate]

Hi Robert Pate

Yep!! You're absolutely right!! Praise God!! But you aren't remembering Paul's words to you about the plight of those that you are sharing with.

Yes!!! Yep!!!!! You're on this side of your testimony for Jesus and you know for an absolute irrefutable proof that Jesus won the victory over sin. Yep!!!! That's what you know.

Do not forget, brother s and sisters, that you were once just like them. So, guess what? Did you know that Jesus died for your sins and gained the victory... before you knew that Jesus died for your sin and gained the victory?

They live in ignorance of the things of God. So, what you say that they can understand and latch on to is that you're condemning them as a sinner. They don't know Jesus. They don't know God. They know nothing about His mercy and grace.


So, I just say all that, that when we evangelize the lost, we need to be aware that leading off with sin isn't the best option, as I see it.

God bless,
Ted

Yes, we have to be patient and remember that we were at one time enemies and alienated from God by wicked works. Colossians 1:21.

 

[Robert Pate]

I dunno

I can’t do church. Outcast. I thought…before God willed recovery from involuntary shock and other things that happened…that it was all on me. My sins or to use the current psych term poor life choices. Thing is…

I’m a modern day outcast and the backstory is rather ridiculous which happens. Per scripture nothing has happened or is happening or will happen to me that has not happened to other people. Jesus Christ saw fit to have mercy and then brought me to my senses and now…

Rambling. The backstory and outcast status aspects are an issue because…

Churches don’t seem to be all that big into community redemption sound doctrine or…???

Barns and some other corporations do studies on the modern Protestant church. Interesting if somewhat depressing reading material. Apparently a lot of reform churches in the us west meet criteria for biblical worldview etc. here In Bible Belt USA there’s lots and lots of churches…

And lots and lots of social fragmentation and not do sound doctrine and…frustration. Hatred even within the church.

So…now that I’m healthy and smart and fairly normal and living a safe law abiding peaceful life in Christ and I would like to find a church where I can contribute and grow..,

I find that lots of people want a decent church they can work with…

But fewer and fewer of us are finding it. Maybe it’s better in some other areas?

The Good News still saves thank God.

You will not find an organized church that preaches the historical Gospel of Jesus Christ and justification by faith apart from the works of the law. They have all been influenced by Catholicism and Judaism.

 

[Cooper]

Another foolish post.
Stop embarrasing yourself.
You jumped in the deep end of the pool and do not know how to swim.
Delete these foolish posts before people read and discover how much error you spue forth.
Do it quickly.

Jesus said to repent he did not say we are already saved from the foundation of the earth.

 

[miamited]

Hi Christ_empowered

Churches don’t seem to be all that big into community redemption sound doctrine or…???

Sadly, that's probably more true than most of us think it is. However, I firmly believe that they are out there. Several in small towns and big cities that put major emphasis on going out to meet the lost and reach the lost where they are.

My 'fellowship' does do some outreach, but it's with small groups and not some churchwide event. Although we did recently actually have a tent revival on the back lot which was, of course, a churchwide event. But we have small ministry groups that build wheelchair ramps. Another does an oil change for widows and single mothers every 6 months or so. Another group feeds the homeless at another fellowship which is in a blighted area.

So…now that I’m healthy and smart and fairly normal and living a safe law abiding peaceful life in Christ and I would like to find a church where I can contribute and grow..,

Two things to do. Ask people where they go and what they like about their fellowship. Go to a different fellowship for 2 services each month until you find the one. It may be one you went to already that began to grow on you as you moved around. But look, I'm 67 and I just can't imagine not being in a fellowship. Now, I don't mean to be a card carrying member of a fellowship.

I just want to be among God's people singing His joy and praises and proclaiming the glory of the Lamb. I'm actually not a member of the fellowship that I've been going to now for over 2 years. But I know in my heart that God looks down upon our corporate worship with a special love. Jesus said that whenever two or more are gathered in my name, there I will be among you. Look!!! There's no other place on the earth where I can fairly confidently say that two or more people are gathered in Jesus name, then in a fellowship on Sunday morning. Jesus is there, if his words are true! I can't imagine God looking down and seeing His Son among us and not bursting with righteous pride and happiness in that moment.

For your own joy. Find a fellowship to attend.

God bless,
Ted

 

[miamited]

also this:

See, I want to spend time with the others that know these things. I think that's what God wants of us, too.

God bless,
Ted

 

[Iconoclast]

I judge everything in the light of the historical Gospel of Jesus Christ. Not upon what some man wrote.

The confession of faith is the historical gospel

 

[Iconoclast]

also this:

See, I want to spend time with the others that know these things. I think that's what God wants of us, too.

God bless,
Ted

Standing with your hands in the air saying I speak Jesus does nothing at all.
Walking in obedience to the word of God is what is needful

 

[Iconoclast]

Jesus said to repent he did not say we are already saved from the foundation of the earth.

Calvinists do not say that at all.

 

[Cooper]

Calvinists do not say that at all.

OK, they were Elected from the foundation of the earth.

 

[Iconoclast]

OK, they were Elected from the foundation of the earth.

Yes.Election takes place before the world was.
We are born children of wrath even as others..eph2.
Then God draws us to Jesus by His Spirit, giving us a new heart granting to us repentace and faith.

 

[Cooper]

Yes.Election takes place before the world was.
We are born children of wrath even as others..eph2.
Then God draws us to Jesus by His Spirit, giving us a new heart granting to us repentace and faith

Elected for "obedience." 1 Peter 1:2

 

[Cooper]

No going back into the world.

1 Peter 1:13-16
(13) Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance; but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, "BE HOLY, FOR I AM HOLY."

 

[Cooper]

You yourself say "We are born children of wrath even as others..eph2."

Our birth is not before the foundation of the earth. What God requires for all people from before the foundation of the world is our obedience. Think about what happened to Adam and Eve who were disobedient, and be warned.
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[miamited]

Standing with your hands in the air saying I speak Jesus does nothing at all.
Walking in obedience to the word of God is what is needful

Well, since you're not God, I'm not going to allow that you know more about what God desires than what His word says.

I will give you thanks in the great assembly; among the throngs I will praise you.

Enter his gates with thanksgiving and his courts with praise; give thanks to him and praise his name.

Sing to the LORD! Give praise to the LORD! He rescues the life of the needy from the hands of the wicked.

“Do you hear what these children are saying?” they asked him. “Yes,” replied Jesus, “have you never read, “ ‘From the lips of children and infants you, Lord, have called forth your praise’?”

And again, “Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles; let all the peoples extol him.”

So, while I agree that God asks us to be obedient to His commands, for those who are born again of the Spirit of God, I believe they know that God also delights in our praise and worship towards Him. So, I'm not so sure one can say such praise is of 'no' value. The Scriptures seem to allude that God rejoices in it and that our hearts should desire to do it.

God bless,
Ted

 

[miamited]

Hi Robert Pate

They have all been influenced by Catholicism and Judaism.

I'm not sure that applies to all fellowships. I certainly do believe that Judaism has molded a lot of current christian practices because, well, the entire Scriptures, except for maybe Luke's writings and maybe the writer of Hebrews, since we can't be positive who wrote that book, came to us from God through the Jew. There is absolutely nothing that I know that I know about God that I didn't learn because faithful Jewish men wrote down God's word for us.

You see, God wrote a book, but He raised up the line of Jews from the loins of Abraham to do it. They did it!!! Despite their hard hearts and rebellious ways, God used a few faithful Jews to deliver to you and me all of the 'facts' about Him that any of us can know is the truth about Him.

God bless,
Ted