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The Church is an organization of one body, where each of us is a special part of that body, the body of Christ.
We must not forget Christ's prayer to his Father, that there may be unity among Christians.
Jesus uses "truth". Yes there is but one body of Christ. I think we can have a friendly discussion on this subject. Clearly though the orthodox statements have a foundation of mystery which makes it harder on some to explain things that are
just stated so.
Christ had a human body and a human spirit. What part of Him was God?
What part of Christ descended from above if NOT His own spirit?
Its clear to me the Son who was,
His spirit, was in the body prepared for Him.
And I read the Son stating "MY" spirit.
"Father into your hands I commit "My" spirit"
From the will of another who defined Jesus's being. A creation of that other as a God and Father of Jesus.
One unbegotten God the Father; One begotten Lord Jesus Christ the Son who was gifted all the fullness of God the Father and shares the fullness of HIS Fathers nature. They are one but there is but one Deity and its shared without limit.The unbegotten God the Father. Its God from true God as its the Fathers Spirit/nature found in the Son without limit. (fullness) They are one in that unity as One God; One Spirit.
Col 1:19
How is one "from" another as a Son without a starting point to qualify "from" and "Son"?
True God
from True God
I read God from true God as the eternal life found in the Son is the Father not His own.
How is a begotten Son of a Father unbegotten?
Begotten of the Father alone before all things but NOT made.
What historical usage of the word begotten means no beginning?
John used begotten.
The Father is unbegotten and Jesus is begotten as a Son.
How are they coequal?
If the Father has a beginning it could not be by any other being. Clearly it's stated Jesus is FROM the Father as a Son.
The First begotten of the Father. (Jesus's spirit -not deity)
The beginning of the creation of God.(Jesus's spirit- not deity)
Col 1:19 The Deity gifted not formed is and remains the source true unbegotten God the Father. The Father in the Son.
Gifted not formed. The Fathers Spirit without limit is deity but it is the Deity of the only true, (unbegotten), God the Father from whom all things came. Jesus has made us a kingdom of Priest's, a royal priesthood, to serve HIS God and HIS Father and our God and our "Father". He has purchased us for "God" by His blood.
Col 1:19
Why would Jesus need to receive His own Spirit from the Father?
Rather as Jesus taught the Spirit proceeds from the Father who sends the Spirit in Jesus's name.
Acts 2
God has raised this Jesus to life,and we are all witnesses of it. 33Exalted to the right hand of God
,he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.
Jesus speaks of that Spirit as another. "another advocate"
The Father does NOT.
The Fathers promise
In the last days, God says, I will pour out
my Spirit on all people
The body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who was poured out in Jesus name.
As I read and know and believe which was from the beginning
yet for us there is but one God,
the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but
one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live
As I read and know and believe about the Son
The Son is the radiance of
God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
Is Jesus God?
He never dies.
Yes, He is ALL that the Father is.
No, He has always been the Son.
A firstborn Son of His God and Father alone at some point in history before the world began-that should explain the need for this command.
About the Son
Hebrews 1:6
And again, when God brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.”
Revelation 3:14
14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness,
the beginning of the creation of God;
Col 1:15 Not the invisible God but the
image of the invisible God.
Who is the
image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature(all creation all things) (His spirit as the Deity was gifted not formed Col 1:19)
The eternal life in the Son is the Father. The eternal life in us is Father and Son- the Spirit of the Father poured out through the Son and in His name.
John 6:57 He's not speaking of life in the flesh as atheists and unbelievers and the wicked live in the flesh.
Just as the living Father sent me and
I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.
He states truth.
The Father is the only unbegotten God and from Him come all things
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
Jesus is the only like to like begotten Son or the only begotten God of the Father and in Him, by Him, through Him and for Him GOD the Father brought all things into existence. God has placed ALL things in His hands.
It's forever -To Him who sits on the throne and to the lamb. (Glory, honor, power) The Throne of God and the lamb forever.
