[_ Old Earth _] Theistic Evolution

[Bronzesnake]

Jason.
It's useless trying to get any scriptural proof for evolution out of Barb.
It’s obvious he's been playing us all along.
He has no intention of accepting the literal Genesis account.
I for one have posted verse by verse scriptures which unambiguously prove God created all life in a couple of literal days, and that happened six thousand years ago.

When Barb is confronted with such devastating proof he simply goes into game playing mode and responds as though God had specifically outlined an evolutionary process. :crazy

Barb is obviously getting a cheap thrill out of doing this and watching people such as you and I as well as others, respond over and over to his rejection of Christian reality. Barb has switched posts replies around and manipulated conversations to dishonestly make the conversation appear as though he had said things which he clearly did not, and he has outright made up false evidence and presented it as though it were fact.
Yes, I can prove this.
Just go to the 4th page of the Random Mutation Generator thread and have a look at my post which exposes him for the game player he is.

I will not respond to any more of his posts.

John

 

[jasoncran]

if we are going to call men liars openly be sure and double check that.

no need to do so and be wrong.

 

[Bronzesnake]

if we are going to call men liars openly be sure and double check that.

no need to do so and be wrong.

Check for yourself. If I'm wrong will apologise, but I have already checked and I am convinced Barb was dishonest.

John

 

[Barbarian]

where does it really say barb, how god did it. he states that he did it but not means by evolution in exact terms.

He doesn't say evolution. Indeed, that would be hard for science, since science doesn't say that life was produced by evolution. What God says is that the earth brought forth living things. Not ex nihilo as the YE creationists say, but by things already created. That is what God says.

On the flood, God says "all flesh on eretz." Which means land. Or earth. Or "hereabouts." Or the land of Israel. Not the whole earth.

then theres the ages of men, methusalah etc
what does those munbers men to you and what do they signify

They may be allegorical. Or He might have miraculously kept them alive for a very long time. It doesn't seem to be much of an issue.

 

[Barbarian]

if we are going to call men liars openly be sure and double check that.

no need to do so and be wrong.

Bronze is frustrated, and venting a little. I have chosen to believe he was simply careless in not checking his facts.

 

[jasoncran]

if this get heated and ugly please settle this via pm.

 

[Barbarian]

If I did something to anger him, my apologies to him and everyone else here. I will try to be less blunt in my replies, and to turn the other cheek when necessary.

 

[jasoncran]

its best that we cease from these clashing as we all need to think as i have rude to some here from this dabate. and let the lord deal with this.

i know not outside this forum anything of you.

even here all i know is that you are a scientist, and a busines owner.

and catholic and a nam vet and have grandkids and a libertarian. you know more about me

since i cant say for your sure what you are athiest or christian,and only you and the lord knows.
i want you to know that some here while we disagree with the toe, we are more concerned for your soul, then to be right. it in that manner that i try pin your theology down and not in malice.

 

[Barbarian]

And I'm grateful for your concern. I can always use the prayers. My thought is that in any discussion, what is said, and what can be produced to support it, is far more important than the personalities involved.

If you or I have found the truth of something, the truth of it is not dependent on who we are. Only God can know what it truly in our hearts. I am careful about discussing my Catholic faith except where it is permitted, but I'd be much more willing to discuss them otherwise.

 

[jasoncran]

you could discuss your beliefs via pm. that would solve this curiousity for me and others. i have been talking another catholic that way here for a few days.

 

[Barbarian]

Sure. I'll do that.