There Will Be NO MAN As The Anti-Christ

[Strangelove]

Please spare me the psycho drama.

The only statement I have ever applied to what you 'perpetually' do with the whole JEW thing is that you MISS THE TARGET.

No. Actually you have accused me of antisemitism and hating Jews. Now are you going to show evidence of this or are you going to continue to lie and bear false witness? Up to you buddy.

Do you even bother to read your own 'cut and pastes?'

So all you need to do is bring forward one eensy weensy cut n paste from my posts and we'll see if you are truthful or if indeed you are a liar.

Already said discussing positional conclusions and NOT the holders. When you say 'the Jews' do this or do that there is no need to PIN the MAN. The discussions are positional conclusions.

Show where I say the Jews did something. Lets see it. Stop dodging. Where do I pin the MAN? Bring forth the proof.

IF at the root of these matters we know that it is a spirit that IS NOT THE MAN upon whom that spirit resides, in this case THE ANTI-CHRIST spirit,

then we have found THE REAL CULPRIT...and tis NOT the JEW as you suppose.

Where have I supposed it is the Jew? Show it. all you need to do is quote me. show me where I have said "tis the Jew:. Show it. Can you?

I believe the 7th Dayers are saved believers. What is your intent beyond that? I can't measure any better to them than that. Your statement is therein false.

And your statement arn't false? Lolz. Hypocrite.

I have no issues in discussions of positional matters as matters of facts and civil discourse, not PEOPLE. That is the SPIRIT of honest discussions.

All I have done is talk about positional matters. Not people. so what exactly is your beef. Quote me. Show the beef. Can you? I think you would have by now...so we'll assume you cant.

When YOU make yourself SINLESS just let me know.

NO MAN makes the 'anti-Christ' spirit or the DEVIL who is in fact connected to ALL SIN from TEMPTATION to ACT 'responsible' NOR can that working be STOPPED. It is not 'just' the MAN involved with these matters.

NO MAN will be making 'the DEVIL' responsible. It simply won't happen. You are certainly welcome to show how you make the DEVIL obedient.

Mindless spiritualizm waffle. Not just the man but the man is there dude. Like it or not.

You don't seem able to differentiate between the captive and the CAPTOR.

What do you expect to gain if you yourself can't seem to see the difference?

And you cant seem to see the difference between the Jews and the talmudic Pharisees who say they are Jews but do lie.

Lolz ooohhh look, I can enlarge two words and colour them up to paint you as an antisemite too.......LOOK!

IF at the root of these matters we know that it is a spirit that IS NOT THE MAN upon whom that spirit resides, in this case THE ANTI-CHRIST spirit, then we have found THE REAL CULPRIT...and tis NOT the JEW as you suppose.

Look everyone! Smallers a JEW HATER!!! He thinks the JEW is THEE ANTICHRIST!!

Just pathetic man.

 

[Strangelove]

Smaller...

I'm not gonna derail your thread any further. Reply to the above post, and if you ever find any proof of my antisemism then you can post it here:

http://www.christianforums.net/f15/am-i-anti-semetic-31608/



I made a thread specially for it. Happy hunting!

 

[The Word]

Any poster desiring to speak in these matters, please STICK to facts for 'exchange.' Fact over FANCY is the best form of communication.

Any not posting, but just reading, I hope you are BLESSED by the WORDS of God! You have my BLESSING as my neighbors regardless of YOUR state. I know the difference between MANKIND and that spirit.

God LOVES you. God does HATE that anti-Christ spirit that may have you presently COVERED. My prayer is that you HEAR the Word of God, and KEEP it in your own heart by HIS HOLY SPIRIT, and LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORS as YOURSELF.

enjoy!

smaller[/QUOTE]


The name antichrist is a symbolic name for a unauthorized sinner who uses the scriptures for his own benefit to control other sinners, live on their labor and be praised by them. You will find antichrists in all the Christian churches and other religious churches in the world.

 

[smaller]

No. Actually you have accused me of antisemitism and hating Jews. Now are you going to show evidence of this or are you going to continue to lie and bear false witness? Up to you buddy.

When have you stopped with the 'lying Talmudic Noahide synagogue of Satan antichrist JEWs?

So all you need to do is bring forward one eensy weensy cut n paste from my posts and we'll see if you are truthful or if indeed you are a liar.

Just say you don't employ the terms above. Many of your posts contain those statements.

Show where I say the Jews did something. Lets see it. Stop dodging. Where do I pin the MAN? Bring forth the proof.

You? Anti-Semetic?!

How about YOUR statement that the ONLY REAL JEW is a christian Jew? You understand that makes ALL the rest of them the SATANIC JEW LIARS...?! Which IS in the entire BASIS of anti-semitism.


Your statement of 'who' a REAL Jew is.


"Of course the answer is Judaism. Unfortunately the brand of judaism that these people are hocking is TALMUDIC! Not of GOD! Fake judaism. Any real Jew has confessed Christ the Son of God!"

I mean really, HOW UTTERLY anti-semetic IS THAT? I really am surprised they let you post here with that kind of anti-semitic garbage spew you flood your posts with.

You cite from this site as well, where there is RAGING anti-semitism:

"the facts are soon to be revealed that the Jews will arise in a massive world-wide thrust through several mechanisms in countries throughout the world, to attack Christianity,"

So, yes, that spirit speaking THROUGH you is an anti-semetic pump monkey.

Also, MANY people see the O.T. Law VERY differently that your supposed 'New Covenant' version. Gods Words are NOT against GODS WORDS, period. It is insanity to PIT GODS WORDS to be AGAINST GODS WORDS.

Listen IF you can:


RADICAL people of ANY religion that hates their fellow man are in fact 'slaves' of the anti-Christ spirit. There IS a difference between the MAN and the EVIL spirit that speaks through A SLAVE of same. This DIVISION is seen in MANY places in the Gospels where PEOPLE were FREED of that CAPTIVITY. This is YOUR CALL in being a christian. To SPEAK FREEDOM to the SLAVES OF DARKNESS through Jesus Christ OUR LORD.

Satan speaking through Peter DID NOT MAKE PETER SATAN...This is 'an elementary principle' that I am speaking of in this thread. If and when (please Oh Lord!) you EVER see this fact, then LOOK TO SATAN for your rants, and leave the SLAVES out of the equations. We were ALL once such slaves.


That spirit of the Anti-Christ or THE DEVIL is NOT the same as the people that spirit inhabits.


Christian believers are called to LOVE ALL our fellow man, yes even our enemies. EVEN Peter while Satan was speaking through him.

Cutting the balance of your post...it is evasive dodging of fact.

[snipped]

s

 

[Strangelove]

Ok...pasting your accusations over to my "Am I Anti-semetic" thread.

You can respond to my rebuttal there if you like.

http://www.christianforums.net/f15/am-i-anti-semetic-31608/#post465565

I'll leave out your mindless spiritualizing at the end as its not relevant.

 

[smaller]

Ok...pasting your accusations over to my "Am I Anti-semetic" thread.

You can respond to my rebuttal there if you like.

http://www.christianforums.net/f15/am-i-anti-semetic-31608/#post465565

I'll leave out your mindless spiritualizing at the end as its not relevant.

I'm not interested in any 'biblical dissection' that knows mankind after geneology or flesh, both of which are advised to be vainly out of order.

2 Cor. 5:16 & Titus 3:9.

s

 

[Strangelove]

I got a question for you smaller dude.

How about the Son of Perdition? the Man of Sin?

Will that be a man>?

2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by
spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of
Christ is at hand.

2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.​

 

[smaller]

I got a question for you smaller dude.

How about the Son of Perdition? the Man of Sin?

Will that be a man>?

2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,​

2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by
spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of
Christ is at hand.​

2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;​

2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.​

You have not and may continue to MISS the observations made in this thread.

Evil spirits of ANY sort are NOT the same as the person they come upon.

There is then a CAPTOR and A CAPTIVE.

They are NOT the same.

enjoy!

smaller

 

[Strangelove]

You have not and may continue to MISS the observations made in this thread.

Evil spirits of ANY sort are NOT the same as the person they come upon.

There is then a CAPTOR and A CAPTIVE.

They are NOT the same.

I'm perfectly aware of that.

So is the son of Perdition [Captive] a real man or not?

 

[smaller]

I'm perfectly aware of that.

So is the son of Perdition [Captive] a real man or not?

The 'man of sin' is in the Temple of EVERY SINNER.

enjoy!

s

 

[Strangelove]

The 'man of sin' is in the Temple of EVERY SINNER.

enjoy!

s

So in smallers commentary Bible (2010 Edition) the verse would read like this:

2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that Temple of EVERY SINNER be revealed, the son of perdition;

So Paul talks about letting no man deceive you by any means. No MAN. I assume you agree this is other men not yourself?

And then he says that the end of the world is not coming until a falling away comes first. Ok? A departing from the faith. Yeah?

And then, according to you....the temple of every sinner will be revealed. That is ALSO called the Son of Perdition.

So our sin is not revealed to us yet? We cannot see our sin now? It will be revealed as a sign of Christs coming?

Can you explain how the "Temple of every sinner" is revealed please. And exactly what is means...temple?......and why cant we see our sin now?​

 

[smaller]

So in smallers commentary Bible (2010 Edition) the verse would read like this:

2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that Temple of EVERY SINNER be revealed, the son of perdition;​

So Paul talks about letting no man deceive you by any means. No MAN. I assume you agree this is other men not yourself?​

And then he says that the end of the world is not coming until a falling away comes first. Ok? A departing from the faith. Yeah?​

And then, according to you....the temple of every sinner will be revealed. That is ALSO called the Son of Perdition.​

So our sin is not revealed to us yet? We cannot see our sin now? It will be revealed as a sign of Christs coming? ​

Can you explain how the "Temple of every sinner" is revealed please. And exactly what is means...temple?......and why cant we see our sin now?​

If you knew your scriptures, you would also know that the term Angel can be applied to HOLY messengers (angels) EVIL messengers (angels) and MEN messengers who bear one or the other previous.

So it is with the term MAN. The term MAN OF SIN is SATAN, also the 'son of perdition.'

That man is the destroyer of TEMPLES and will himself be DESTROYED by God.

s

 

[Strangelove]

So it is with the term MAN. The term MAN OF SIN is SATAN, also the 'son of perdition.'

That man is the destroyer of TEMPLES and will himself be DESTROYED by God.

Right so....now you've changed your mind. No probs...we're allowed to do that.....Now the Man of Sin, Son of Perdition is NOT the Temple of Every Sinner but the entity [SATAN] who DESTROYS the temple of every sinner.

Ok? So the entity Satan will be revealed then Smaller is that right?

Will he look like this?

Lolz,.....g'night smaller. Sleep tight...dont let Satan bite!

 

[smaller]

Right so....now you've changed your mind. No probs...we're allowed to do that.....Now the Man of Sin, Son of Perdition is NOT the Temple of Every Sinner but the entity [SATAN] who DESTROYS the temple of every sinner.

Ok? So the entity Satan will be revealed then Smaller is that right?

Will he look like this?

Lolz,.....g'night smaller. Sleep tight...dont let Satan bite!

When I need a talking parrot, I'll give you a call.

s

 

[Strangelove]

When I need a talking parrot, I'll give you a call.

Ya...ok smaller....when you dig yourself into a theological hole...and you cant answer the questions, just resort to personal attacks. Fine.

​

You say Satan will be revealed to us before the tribulations.

This is patently absurd.

 

[smaller]

Ya...ok smaller....when you dig yourself into a theological hole...and you cant answer the questions, just resort to personal attacks. Fine.

When you don't understand the basics of the post, how is it you think you can speak for me?

You say Satan will be revealed to us before the tribulations.

This is patently absurd.

Satan has already been revealed to some. You just haven't had 'that revealing' happen to YOU yet. Nothing more. You still think it's 'the other guys.'

When you see that YOUR SIN is in fact connected to the DEVIL, you may cease from your 'high horse' upon others. There will be no other revealing. That man of SIN, that SON OF PERDITION already sits in the temples of MAN, where he has SAT since Day 1 of Adam.

enjoy!

smaller

 

[Strangelove]

[SNIPPED your spiritualization]

That man of SIN, that SON OF PERDITION already sits in the temples of MAN, where he has SAT since Day 1 of Adam.

More talk of the Son of Perdition here:

2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all
power and signs and lying wonders,

Even him (ου relative pronoun - genitive singular masculine)

whose coming is AFTER the working (ἐνέργειαν operative power) of Satan. Not Satan himself quite obviously.

performing signs and wonders??

Do you perform signs and wonders with your little in-built devil??

Lets have a look at some other translations>>

New International Version (©1984)

The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,

New Living Translation (©2007)

This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles.

English Standard Version (©2001)​

The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,

Ya....definatly sounds like its gonna be a specific dude smaller. All be it with the power of Satan in him.

To say that this is talking about all of us with our own little Satans inside is just.....well.....silly.

​

Can you support your position with scripture?

​

 

[smaller]

[SNIPPED your spiritualization]



More talk of the Son of Perdition here:

2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all
power and signs and lying wonders,​

Even him (ου relative pronoun - genitive singular masculine)​

whose coming is AFTER the working (ἐνέργειαν operative power) of Satan. Not Satan himself quite obviously.​

performing signs and wonders??​

Do you perform signs and wonders with your little in-built devil??​

One can evade the basic fact all they want.

The entire point of this exercise is to SHOW WHERE the DEVIL is currently seated...

That seat is the TEMPLE of mankinds BODIES. This will be made CLEARLY KNOWN to all at the finality.

Those who are equipped with WORD FACT will also be equipped to fight. The same Sword of TRUTH however must be applied to US. Those who KILL by that sWORD will also DIE by that same sWORD.

Those who shall be taken CAPTIVE, to CAPTIVITY they will go and they will GO THERE by their CAPTOR in their TEMPLE.

Those who are not LED IN TRUTH will not find the enemy or his location, as THEY ARE CURRENTLY BLINDED by same.
​

Lets have a look at some other translations>>​

New International Version (©1984)​

The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,​

New Living Translation (©2007)​

This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles.​

English Standard Version (©2001)​

The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,​

Ya....definatly sounds like its gonna be a specific dude smaller. All be it with the power of Satan in him.​

To say that this is talking about all of us with our own little Satans inside is just.....well.....silly.​

And thank you for making ample demonstration of an operational LIE of the DEVIL.​

​

​

Can you support your position with scripture?​

Already have in more ways that you can handle. Unfortunately those who are blinded, though the FACTS be placed in front of their eyes or spoken to them, will neither SEE nor HEAR, nor CAN THEY.

There are many signs of 'captivity.' The first sign is DENIAL.

Peter DENIED Christ 3 times before THE LIGHT DAWNED upon him. This was in fact the working of the BLINDER, of SATAN, upon PETER.

Jesus knew what Peter would do. God knows the moves of every devil in advance.

enjoy!

smaller

 

[Strangelove]

[SNIPPED your spiritualization]





(oops.....theres nothing left) LOLZ! :toofunny

Amazing. Ab....so.....lutely no reponse to my points.

 

[smaller]

Amazing. Ab....so.....lutely no reponse to my points.

Contemplate your OWN SIN in connection with THE DEVIL.

God might show you somethings.

enjoy!

s