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I am not looking for 'New Truth' from the many arm of flesh ones of Jer. 17:5 ones, for this mans material given here is exactly as I see it. You will need to go to his site to see all the verses in context for this Scriptural Truth. They are all there, but, there are to many to be included here. I will post his site on the top of his graft below.
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--Elijah here:
I am not looking for 'New Truth' from the many arm of flesh ones of Jer. 17:5 ones, for this mans material given here is exactly as I see it. You will need to go to his site to see all the verses in context for this Scriptural Truth. They are all there, but, there are to many to be included here. I will post his site on the top of his graft below.
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Dear friend, Which of the Church Fathers taught this scheme? If it wasn't

taught in the early Church, how can it be the teaching of the NT and the OT.

Anyway, reading dates back into history is risky. The date of Christ's birth is

unknown, so your dates for Christ's ministry may be off by a year or two.

Some say Christ died on Friday, April 7, 30 AD, and rose of Sunday, April 9, 30

AD. But I don't know. You say 31 AD. I seem to think 30 AD, but I am not sure.

I would not bet on it. Was Christ born in September of some year BC? Possibly.

The book of Daniel remains a sealed book, and some Christians are just going to

have to face the fact that nobody knows what every prophecy in Daniel and

Revelation means. This is all pointless speculation. When Christians should be

focusing on more important things in the Scriptures, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John,

and Acts, for example, and then move on to Romans through Jude. And leave

Revelation to the mercy and the Mystery Who is God. It is a sealed book, and

the times have not unsealed it, God has kept it sealed unto the end times, and

since it is sealed, it is not yet the time when Enoch and Elijah return to earth

from Heaven. In Erie PA Scott Harrington
 
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--Elijah here:
I am not looking for 'New Truth' from the many arm of flesh ones of Jer. 17:5 ones, for this mans material given here is exactly as I see it. You will need to go to his site to see all the verses in context for this Scriptural Truth. They are all there, but, there are to many to be included here. I will post his site on the top of his graft below.
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Sam, here is an old one that I sent in,;) see if there is anything that you agree with there? It has good scripture!
---Elijah
 
Re: This guy see it as I do on thec 2300 days!

I seem to think 30 AD, but I am not sure.

I would not bet on it.
You can bet on it. It's a winning bet according to Biblical prophecy and world history.
 
Re: This guy see it as I do on thec 2300 days!

Judgement started in 1844 ???

I'm not sure about how you define "Judgement" then.
 
Re: This guy see it as I do on thec 2300 days!

Judgement started in 1844 ???

I'm not sure about how you define "Judgement" then.

It is judment of man's records, as recorded in books. When Christ comes again, He documents that He brings His reward with Him. That is the first final Judgement only for who will have eternal life. The two must first be seperated.

OK: We are told that we will have a part in the wicked's FINAL Judgement, as for their executional phase. Got that?;)

There are 1000 yrs. between the resurection of saints and then the wicked who will shortly after their resurection be executed.

Here are a couple verses to check out....
1Cor. 6
[2] Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
[3] Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

All of these will be judged while they are dead. As Eccl. 12:13-14 points out. And James 2:8-12 finds the ten Commandments the scale that they will be judged by.

And when Christ return' shortly, the saints & the wicked will be seperated with all probation over.

Rev. 22
[10] And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
[11] He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
[12] And, behold, I come quickly; and [[my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.]]

If you can handle Jer. 4:22-37 just ignore these other birds!;) and check out the prophecy from the verses! and see what you come up with):chin

--Elijah
 
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Forgive me Elijah, but today at work was one of those days that make me know why they pay so good - I'm burnt out!

OK: We are told that we will have a part in the wicked's FINAL Judgement, as for their executional phase. Got that?;)
See, I knew that. But I ALSO know that we will judge in the life that follows this one, not while we are here on this globe as fleshly humans. I am not judging anyone right now (ok, not as described in scripture).

So, does your interpretation mean that those of us already in heaven are NOW judging? Because I don't think so, I don't think "we" do that until we are all there and "it's over" so to speak.

If I read your interpretation right, you believe it has already started. I BELIEVE in what you are saying, but I don't believe it has already started.

I think we disagree, mostly, on timing.
 
Re: This guy see it as I do on thec 2300 days!

Forgive me Elijah, but today at work was one of those days that make me know why they pay so good - I'm burnt out!


See, I knew that. But I ALSO know that we will judge in the life that follows this one, not while we are here on this globe as fleshly humans. I am not judging anyone right now (ok, not as described in scripture).

So, does your interpretation mean that those of us already in heaven are NOW judging? Because I don't think so, I don't think "we" do that until we are all there and "it's over" so to speak.

If I read your interpretation right, you believe it has already started. I BELIEVE in what you are saying, but I don't believe it has already started.

I think we disagree, mostly, on timing.

Let me ad this: No one is in heaven other than a special few. We find all dead who die in their graves until Christ returns as, 'i' see it.

When Christ comes, all probation is over. The living saints who died will be resurected, and all the saints will go to heaven, and then the executional stage of the wicked will be begin of their judgement, that we take part in.

Rev. said that Christ brings His reward with Him. Those wicked dead stay in their graves & the Lords brightness slays all of the rest of the wicked. They are all to stay dead until the judgement is over (1000 yrs.) & then will be resurrected to die again permanently in the fire that comes down from God out of heaven.

Two resurections. 1000 yrs apart. The first is for the saved & the 2nd is for the execution of the wicked. And the 1000 yrs. in between will find masses recorded from record books to be examined for the executional length of judgement. Note just one verse (unless you want the others?)

Luke 12:47-48
[47] And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
[48] But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Most do not have much of an idea of how God will judge. Even in Matt. 10:5-6 we find in verse 15 thes of Christ's very own judged far the worse than even S.&.G. & like cities. And the Eccl. 12:13-14 verses finds this judgement with even every secret thing noted! :thumbsup

--Elijah
 
Re: This guy see it as I do on thec 2300 days!

Ok, so how can we say that judgement started in 1844?
 
Re: This guy see it as I do on thec 2300 days!

Ok, so how can we say that judgement started in 1844?

I do not know where you are at in belief?? David says: God spake and it stood fast!:yes Job say's that God hung the earth on nothing!:yes Do you also believe that??:thumbsup
And Eccl, 1:9-10 + Eccl. 3:15 with how God documents a thing?? Gen. 41:32

[32] And for that the dream was doubled unto Pharaoh twice; it is because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass.

Eccl. 1:9-10 once, Eccl. 3:15, Twice with the almost same documentation. And the above doubled twice dream.

If you can accept this with our created in the image of God's brain:chin;) to reason together??? Let's start with some verses & build on this?? And if not, lets just wait some.

--Elijah
 
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I just do NOT see how you can make the case that Judgement started in 1844.

You have me TOTALLY lost here. I'm willing to listen to you, Elijah (as I always am!) but I just don't see where you or the original author makes the case for it.
 
Re: This guy see it as I do on thec 2300 days!

Elijah674,

Scripture days are not based on Julian calendar which has 365 days+1 leap day but based a calendar of 30 days per month and 12 months per year or 360 days per year. All the years if you are referring to any year in actual history, you must convert prophetic years into Julian/Gregorian years before applying. This is one of the major mistakes many do when calculating years for prophecies.
 
Re: This guy see it as I do on thec 2300 days!

Elijah674,

Scripture days are not based on Julian calendar which has 365 days+1 leap day but based a calendar of 30 days per month and 12 months per year or 360 days per year. All the years if you are referring to any year in actual history, you must convert prophetic years into Julian/Gregorian years before applying. This is one of the major mistakes many do when calculating years for prophecies.

This is taken into consideration. --Elijah
 
Re: This guy see it as I do on thec 2300 days!

I just do NOT see how you can make the case that Judgement started in 1844.

You have me TOTALLY lost here. I'm willing to listen to you, Elijah (as I always am!) but I just don't see where you or the original author makes the case for it.

Let start here? Do you believe Rev. 22 is just before Christ comes??? If so, the world has been prejudged. For Christ documents that He BRINGS HIS REWARD WITH HIM.
OK: Prejudged saved or lost is not the executional stage of the wicked. We find two judgements & two resurections. The saved seperated FIRST & the wicked lost Second. (Rev. 20:4-9) There is 1000 yrs. in between.

Note 1 Cor. 6:2-3 for the saved ones to take part in the judgement of the punishing stage of the wicked in the lake of fire, known by most as hell. (not punishing, but total punishment finished. Mal. 4:1-4)

[11] He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

[12] And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

---Elijah

PS: and this is necessary to build on the 2300 days prophecy. In other words when Christ comes again, the first phase of the Judgement has been finished.
 
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Let start here? Do you believe Rev. 22 is just before Christ comes??? If so, the world has been prejudged. For Christ documents that He BRINGS HIS REWARD WITH HIM.
OK: Prejudged saved or lost is not the executional stage of the wicked. We find two judgements & two resurections. The saved seperated FIRST & the wicked lost Second. (Rev. 20:4-9) There is 1000 yrs. in between.

Note 1 Cor. 6:2-3 for the saved ones to take part in the judgement of the punishing stage of the wicked in the lake of fire, known by most as hell. (not punishing, but total punishment finished. Mal. 4:1-4)

[11] He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

[12] And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

---Elijah

PS: and this is necessary to build on the 2300 days prophecy. In other words when Christ comes again, the first phase of the Judgement has been finished.

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Me again;
Next PG we see down the road, because Adam lost his earth's domain to satan, that Christ God who limited Himself from being omnipresent as the second Adam had. He did the next best thing for world witness. (for its salvation) This is what 'we' need to understand. As the population grew the Lord Christ the ROCK needed a central place to work from to 'draw' his creation to Him as they increased in the earth. (mankind always is drawn to miracles) Note a couple verses

Psalms 77:13
[13] Thy way, O God, [[is in the sanctuary]]: who is so great a God as our God?

This is central for one to know God's WAYS! (and we will shortly get to the 'time frame' of JUDGEMENT, friend) Surely, it must be there somewhere in the Sanctuary teaching of Gods ways! when He is believed, huh?;)

Another verse first:
Exod. 25
[8] And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.
[9] According to all that I shew thee, after [[the pattern]] of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, [[even so shall ye make it]].
[10] And they shall make an ark of @#$%@#$%@#$%@#$%tim wood: (??????) two cubits and a half shall be the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof, and a cubit and a half the height thereof.

Heb. again documents this PATTERN coppied from Heavens Sanctuary. And Christ as our High Priest with His work still going on! (you know that) But your good question of 1844 needs to be documented. So it must only be done with Bible Truth built around the Lord's work of Judgement + an 'time' issue.

This is enough for now 'i' think.Yet, remember again, that Inspiration stated that Judgement must start first with the house of God & that when Christ comes again, His reward is brought with Him, and that the judgement of who are saved or lost, is finished. In other words, the work of High Priest Christ is over & done for these ones. (compare Matt. 25:10 & Matt. 23:38 & Gen. 6:3 even before the Earthly Sanctuary was built there was the heavenly Pattern!)

And... that hell as we understand it is still in the future & [ITS] membership has not been judged as of yet for it's duration of 'executional' punishment. Again, the Saved & Lost have only so far been SEPERATED permanently at this juncture of time. (got that so far?) Read Dan. 12:1-4 for an Matt. 24:21 on time.

--Elijah
 
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Elijah674,

Scripture days are not based on Julian calendar which has 365 days+1 leap day but based a calendar of 30 days per month and 12 months per year or 360 days per year. All the years if you are referring to any year in actual history, you must convert prophetic years into Julian/Gregorian years before applying. This is one of the major mistakes many do when calculating years for prophecies.
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This is taken into consideration. --Elijah
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Me again. I am not trying to ignor you!;) The vital thought for me is Dan. 8

[13] Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

[14] And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall [[the sanctuary be cleansed]].

And Pizza asked about 1844? And surely the above passage singles out a date that can be doing nothing else than that of finding Our High Priest Jesus [[STILL DOING A REQUIRED WORK]] long into the furture of AD 70! (while most falsely teach that all is finished) So one is required to know about the heavenly Sanctuary that the earth one was PATTERENED AFTER, huh:thumbsup

And this study will not find the day or hour of our Lords [Second Coming], but it will take us very definitly 'close'! And with our fairly late history on, I think that we can sincerely prove several major points of apostasy found in ex/protestants. And what did indeed happen in 1844 or therebouts. And you are right about 30 day months. And most though today have Christ at 4 or 5 yrs. old at o's starting point the N.T. & of His birth .

And we talk of it being about all over with? this study brings us right up to the very last years, as I see it. And NO, No day or year seen.

Two more thought's from here. Of my many Bibles, the old one that I use most is the King James from The World Publishing Company, New York. (out of print) It has the chapter's dated and with Gen. 1 at BC 4004 (which I find acceptable but not needed to be exact for my convictions.:study)
And the Luke verse below is vital in my conviction. 'close' & the 'Father's Annointing' for the [start] of Christ's Ministry. (or one week:chin)

Luke 3
[22] And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
[23] And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

--Elijah
 
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Elijah674,

Scripture days are not based on Julian calendar which has 365 days+1 leap day but based a calendar of 30 days per month and 12 months per year or 360 days per year. All the years if you are referring to any year in actual history, you must convert prophetic years into Julian/Gregorian years before applying. This is one of the major mistakes many do when calculating years for prophecies.
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This is taken into consideration. --Elijah
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Me again. I am not trying to ignor you!;) The vital thought for me is Dan. 8

[13] Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

[14] And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall [[the sanctuary be cleansed]].

And Pizza asked about 1844? And surely the above passage singles out a date that can be doing nothing else than that of finding Our High Priest Jesus [[STILL DOING A REQUIRED WORK]] long into the furture of AD 70! (while most falsely teach that all is finished) So one is required to know about the heavenly Sanctuary that the earth one was PATTERENED AFTER, huh:thumbsup

And this study will not find the day or hour of our Lords [Second Coming], but it will take us very definitly 'close'! And with our fairly late history on, I think that we can sincerely prove several major points of apostasy found in ex/protestants. And what did indeed happen in 1844 or therebouts. And you are right about 30 day months. And most though today have Christ at 4 or 5 yrs. old at o's starting point the N.T. & of His birth .

And we talk of it being about all over with? this study brings us right up to the very last years, as I see it. And NO, No day or year seen.

Two more thought's from here. Of my many Bibles, the old one that I use most is the King James from The World Publishing Company, New York. (out of print) It has the chapter's dated and with Gen. 1 at BC 4004 (which I find acceptable but not needed to be exact for my convictions.:study)
And the Luke verse below is vital in my conviction. 'close' & the 'Father's Annointing' for the [start] of Christ's Ministry. (or one week:chin)

Luke 3
[22] And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
[23] And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

--Elijah

--Me again
Well Felix, it seems that this has about run out of interest?;) The study is an excellent one regardless of what 'near dates' that others could arive at even. For we see Matt. 24:21 on, at the present with some teaching that Christ IS HERE!

But if they could even come near the time of ...
Dan. 8

[13] Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

[14] And he said unto me, [[Unto two thousand and three hundred days;]] then shall [[the sanctuary be cleansed]].

..They would go way past 70AD & find Christ still 'IN' the heavenly Sanctuary doing this prophesied REQUIRED Work.

--Elijah
 
--Me again
Well Felix, it seems that this has about run out of interest?;) The study is an excellent one regardless of what 'near dates' that others could arive at even. For we see Matt. 24:21 on, at the present with some teaching that Christ IS HERE!

But if they could even come near the time of ...
Dan. 8

[13] Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

[14] And he said unto me, [[Unto two thousand and three hundred days;]] then shall [[the sanctuary be cleansed]].

..They would go way past 70AD & find Christ still 'IN' the heavenly Sanctuary doing this prophesied REQUIRED Work.

--Elijah

In Daniel 8, the male goat, kingdom of Greece defeating kings of Media and Persia is clearly from Alexander the great.

(Dan 8:22-24) "As for the broken [horn] and the four that stood up in its place, four kingdoms shall arise out of that nation, but not with its power. And in the latter time of their kingdom, When the transgressors have reached their fullness, A king shall arise, Having fierce features, Who understands sinister schemes. His power shall be mighty, but not by his own power; He shall destroy fearfully, And shall prosper and thrive; He shall destroy the mighty, and [also] the holy people.

From Wikipedia - Maccabees
In the 2nd century BCE, Judea lay between the Ptolemaic Kingdom based in Egypt and the Seleucid empire based in Syria, kingdoms formed after the death of Alexander the Great (336–323 BCE). Judea had been under Ptolemaic rule, but fell to the Seleucids around 200 BCE. Judea at that time had been affected by the Hellenization begun by Alexander.

Interestingly, prophecy doesn't speak about any other empires or nations like the roman empire which followed but stopped at the nation that was formed from the goat - one of the four nation.

The prophecy speaks specifically about 2300 "mornings" and "evenings" (not day in general) and "daily sacrifice" not done for "each day".

Interestingly, in the same wikipedia page,
According to Rabbinic tradition, the victorious Maccabees could only find a small jug of oil that had remained uncontaminated by virtue of a seal, and although it only contained enough oil to sustain the Menorah for one day, it miraculously lasted for eight days, by which time further oil could be procured.

Just a thought on Revolt of the Maccabees from 167–160 BC which is approx 7 years. 2300 mornings and evenings = around 6 years and 4 months and similar events happened and the prophecy seems to fit the timeline descriptions too.
 
Daniel 7 has it...

[21] Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.
[22] And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding.

[23] At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.

[24] Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

[25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

OK: It needs a starting point. Perhaps we agree on day year Bible Prophecy? Eze. 4:6 & Numbers 14:34
Eze.4
[6] And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year. and again (see Gen. 41:32) in Numbers 14

[34] After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

And we need a starting place for verse 25
[25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

This in Ezra 7 is dated 457 BC. Check it out for a start of being close even!;) Remember that there is to be proof of a Judgement going on in the Heavenly Sanctuary that is required, because when Christ comes again, His reward is already decided. (the saved & the wicked had already been judged & made up)

[13] I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.
[14] Forasmuch as thou art sent of the king, and of his seven counsellers, to inquire concerning Judah and Jerusalem, according to the law of thy God which is in thine hand;
[15] And to carry the silver and gold, which the king and his counsellers have freely offered unto the God of Israel, whose habitation is in Jerusalem,
[16] And all the silver and gold that thou canst find in all the province of Babylon, with the freewill offering of the people, and of the priests, offering willingly for the house of their God which is in Jerusalem:
[17] That thou mayest buy speedily with this money bullocks, rams, lambs, with their meat offerings and their drink offerings, and offer them upon the altar of the house of your God which is in Jerusalem.
[18] And whatsoever shall seem good to thee, and to thy brethren, to do with the rest of the silver and the gold, that do after the will of your God.
[19] The vessels also that are given thee for the service of the house of thy God, those deliver thou before the God of Jerusalem.
[20] And whatsoever more shall be needful for the house of thy God, which thou shalt have occasion to bestow, bestow it out of the king's treasure house.
[21] And I, even I Artaxerxes the king, do make a decree to all the treasurers which are beyond the river, that whatsoever Ezra the priest, the scribe of the law of the God of heaven, shall require of you, it be done speedily,
[22] Unto an hundred talents of silver, and to an hundred measures of wheat, and to an hundred baths of wine, and to an hundred baths of oil, and salt without prescribing how much.
[23] Whatsoever is commanded by the God of heaven, let it be diligently done for the house of the God of heaven: for why should there be wrath against the realm of the king and his sons?

Now back to Dan. 9
[24] Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
7x7 -49 onward-> 'threescore & two weeks - onward =434 yrs. + in the 'midst of the week ='s 7 years center. (or the total 490 years to The Acts call of Saul (Paul) to the Gentils. And 2300 is still into the future!

[26] And [[after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off,]] but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

I will come back to verse 26 for what we might agree on? But lets see what this merits first!:thumbsup

--Elijah
 
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