Trinitry Truth

[craigdressler]

Unfortunately, many cults and religions deny the truth of the Trinity. From Mormons to Jehovah Witnesses to Muslims they simply call Jesus a prophet or great teacher or anything other than God. However, from Genesis when God says, "Let us make man in our image" to the Jesus' Great Commission when he says, "Go and make disciples..." and then lists the Trinity we say God's word delineating that truth. Even the Apostle Thomas after Jesus rose from the dead said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God." Christians only need to do a little research to find numerous places where the Trinity is mentioned in the Bible.

 

[Pegasus]

Unfortunately, many cults and religions deny the truth of the Trinity. From Mormons to Jehovah Witnesses to Muslims they simply call Jesus a prophet or great teacher or anything other than God. However, from Genesis when God says, "Let us make man in our image" to the Jesus' Great Commission when he says, "Go and make disciples..." and then lists the Trinity we say God's word delineating that truth. Even the Apostle Thomas after Jesus rose from the dead said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God." Christians only need to do a little research to find numerous places where the Trinity is mentioned in the Bible.

Agree. Yet we see many avowed Christians outside of the cults you mention deny the deity of Christ and the Trinity. Getting the Christology wrong ends us fueling just about every heresy in Christian History.

 

[Christ_empowered]

I think accepting The Trinity is key to being a genuine follower of Christ, both at the individual and denominational level. I think...at times, sound doctrine can be a hard sell, because people are flooded w/ different view points, lots of information, plus society is so postmodern now. And yet...

accepting Scriptural truth is a big part of a genuine commitment to Christ.

 

[for_his_glory]

God the Father (Spirit as God is a Spirit not of flesh and bone)
God the Son Christ Jesus (word of Gods Spirit made flesh, but was Spirit first)
God the Holy Spirit (again Gods Spirit)

It's all Gods Spirit manifested to us in three ways that we can hear what the Spirit of God is speaking.

 

[eddif]

God the Father (Spirit as God is a Spirit not of flesh and bone)
God the Son Christ Jesus (word of Gods Spirit made flesh, but was Spirit first)
God the Holy Spirit (again Gods Spirit)

It's all Gods Spirit manifested to us in three ways that we can hear what the Spirit of God is speaking.

So.

What 3 Physical manifestations does our creation imagery show.

Since you mention bone, could you elaborate on that too.

Hey this is one of my things, but would you start us off. I have some ideas, but my jaw may drop to my knees at what you present.

Redneck
eddif

 

[eddif]

Unfortunately, many cults and religions deny the truth of the Trinity. From Mormons to Jehovah Witnesses to Muslims they simply call Jesus a prophet or great teacher or anything other than God. However, from Genesis when God says, "Let us make man in our image" to the Jesus' Great Commission when he says, "Go and make disciples..." and then lists the Trinity we say God's word delineating that truth. Even the Apostle Thomas after Jesus rose from the dead said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God." Christians only need to do a little research to find numerous places where the Trinity is mentioned in the Bible.

So.
What shadow imagery and reality imagery do you see.

This may turn out to be a good thread. Godhead might be a better word at times.

eddif

 

[eddif]

I Corinthians 15:45 KJV
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

So does Jesus have triune aspects?
The word - became flesh
The flesh - became a quickening spirit
The quickening spirit - wants to enter us
Revelation 3:20 KJV
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

eddif

 

[Jim Parker]

So does Jesus have triune aspects?

Define "triune aspect" please.

 

[eddif]

Define "triune aspect" please.

The three aspect / aspects.
Thu thre thangs that shows up.

eddif

 

[Jim Parker]

The three aspect / aspects.
Thu thre thangs that shows up.
eddif

no help

 

[eddif]

no help

The things that normally play a part in a humans life:
1 Father
+
2 Mother
Yields
3 Flesh and blood child

In the case of Jesus:
1 The prophetic promise / word of God the father
2 Virgin mother
3 Holy Spirit
Yields
4 Flesh child
5 Did will of Father
6 Bore our sins on cross I Peter 2:24
7 Raised from Dead
8 Ascended to right hand of Father
9 Makes intercession for saints
10 Enters our life 2nd birth
11 others

My question was roughly:
Could we find 3 major aspects of Jesus (not just see flesh)?

I based the question on previous posts in this thread. Because of the complex nature of Jesus, are we now triune?
Flesh
Mind
Spirit

I am seeking comments .

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[Jim Parker]

The things that normally play a part in a humans life:
1 Father
+
2 Mother
Yields
3 Flesh and blood child

In the case of Jesus:
1 The prophetic promise / word of God the father
2 Virgin mother
3 Holy Spirit
Yields
4 Flesh child
5 Did will of Father
6 Bore our sins on cross I Peter 2:24
7 Raised from Dead
8 Ascended to right hand of Father
9 Makes intercession for saints
10 Enters our life 2nd birth
11 others

My question was roughly:
Could we find 3 major aspects of Jesus (not just see flesh)?

I based the question on previous posts in this thread. Because of the complex nature of Jesus, are we now triune?
Flesh
Mind
Spirit

I am seeking comments .

Mississippi redneck
eddif

OK! Very well spelled out for me.
Covering the topic would be at least about 3 PhD dissertations.
Mississippi?
My Dad was born in Vicksburg.

 

[for_his_glory]

So.

What 3 Physical manifestations does our creation imagery show.

Since you mention bone, could you elaborate on that too.

Hey this is one of my things, but would you start us off. I have some ideas, but my jaw may drop to my knees at what you present.

Redneck
eddif

1. God is Spirit, John 4:24, not flesh bone or blood and in the OT either spoke directly to the prophets or by angels and also various objects like a burning bush or an ass for example. Between the OT and NT God was silent towards Israel as when they returned to Israel from the Babylonian captivity they came back as merchants and not shepherds as they were disobedient to God going after other gods.
Book of Malachi.

2. Jesus being the very Spirit of God before the foundation of the world as He and the Father are one was prophesied by the Prophets in the OT and spoken of by John the baptist in the NT as John being the forerunner of Christ calling all to repent. As foretold Christ did come as the word of God made flesh (skin, bone, blood) to be that light that shines in darkness. He came as redeemer Savior through Gods grace as Christ is our faith that all can repent of their sins and have eternal life with the Father to all who will believe in Him as Lord and Savior.
John 1:1-4; 1 Peter 1:13-21

3. After the sacrifice of Christ God raised Him from the grave and as He had to ascend back up to heaven the promise was that He would never leave us or forsake us as when He ascended He sent down the Holy Spirit (Spirit of God) to indwell all who will believe in Christ and His finished works on the cross. In the OT Gods Spirit fell on them for a time and purpose under heaven. Now we are indwelled with that power and authority through Gods grace that the Holy Spirit now works in us and through us teaching all things God wants us to learn. All three are Spiritual and Spiritual awakenings in us to know the will of God and walk in His statures.
John 16:7-15

 

[eddif]

God the Father (Spirit as God is a Spirit not of flesh and bone)
God the Son Christ Jesus (word of Gods Spirit made flesh, but was Spirit first)
God the Holy Spirit (again Gods Spirit)

It's all Gods Spirit manifested to us in three ways that we can hear what the Spirit of God is speaking.

So.

What 3 Physical manifestations does our creation imagery show.

Since you mention bone, could you elaborate on that too.

Hey this is one of my things, but would you start us off. I have some ideas, but my jaw may drop to my knees at what you present.

Redneck
eddif

Ok here I am in the language I speak.
Physical manifestations.

A God of form and order Skeletal System of firm bones.

The DNA RNA are like a book to order our lives.

An immune system to cast out / attack disease. Jesus slain from foundation knew problems ahead of time.

Natural pacemaker of heart looks like crucified man. The desperately wicked and deceitful heart needs all Jesus did for us.

Kidneys filter blood. Removing waste. Cleaning waste.
II Chronicles 7:14 KJV
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

The spirit operates through possibly a brain (spirit of mind).
The cerebellum has a river of spinal fluid flowing between the trees of the cerebellum.

God made us as an image of what he is. We do not think like him. Adam and Eve did not manifest spiritual awareness.

Angels carry messages from God to man and nerves carry messages in us. Nerves pass information across synapse space.
...............
You went past the physical and into possibly the new man of Pentecost. Law written in heart and mind are a new covenant born again benefit reality and are not physical symbols (image) but spiritual reality.
The New Jerusalem has no temple (symbolism over reality over
The first Adam was a living soul (physical).

Ok. Did I mess with the pigs? LOL

 

[Free]

Ok here I am in the language I speak.
Physical manifestations.

A God of form and order Skeletal System of firm bones.

The DNA RNA are like a book to order our lives.

An immune system to cast out / attack disease. Jesus slain from foundation knew problems ahead of time.

Natural pacemaker of heart looks like crucified man. The desperately wicked and deceitful heart needs all Jesus did for us.

Kidneys filter blood. Removing waste. Cleaning waste.
II Chronicles 7:14 KJV
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

The spirit operates through possibly a brain (spirit of mind).
The cerebellum has a river of spinal fluid flowing between the trees of the cerebellum.

God made us as an image of what he is. We do not think like him. Adam and Eve did not manifest spiritual awareness.

Angels carry messages from God to man and nerves carry messages in us. Nerves pass information across synapse space.
...............
You went past the physical and into possibly the new man of Pentecost. Law written in heart and mind are a new covenant born again benefit reality and are not physical symbols (image) but spiritual reality.
The New Jerusalem has no temple (symbolism over reality over
The first Adam was a living soul (physical).

Ok. Did I mess with the pigs? LOL

What does any of this have to do with the Trinity?

 

[eddif]

What does any of this have to do with the Trinity?

Romans I:20 KJV
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Sun - Moon - Light. (Triune)
Source energy - Father
Jesus turned to blood - received authority
Father sends energy by spirit

II Corinthians 12:21 KJV (triune)
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.

On earth as in heaven

I Thessalonians 5:23 KJV (triune)
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I John 5:8 (triune / 3)
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

I apologize if needed. Creation is filled with things God created to reveal truth.

I live in a physical rural world that screams of the creator.

eddif

 

[for_his_glory]

Ok here I am in the language I speak.
Physical manifestations.

A God of form and order Skeletal System of firm bones.

The DNA RNA are like a book to order our lives.

An immune system to cast out / attack disease. Jesus slain from foundation knew problems ahead of time.

Natural pacemaker of heart looks like crucified man. The desperately wicked and deceitful heart needs all Jesus did for us.

Kidneys filter blood. Removing waste. Cleaning waste.
II Chronicles 7:14 KJV
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

The spirit operates through possibly a brain (spirit of mind).
The cerebellum has a river of spinal fluid flowing between the trees of the cerebellum.

God made us as an image of what he is. We do not think like him. Adam and Eve did not manifest spiritual awareness.

Angels carry messages from God to man and nerves carry messages in us. Nerves pass information across synapse space.
...............
You went past the physical and into possibly the new man of Pentecost. Law written in heart and mind are a new covenant born again benefit reality and are not physical symbols (image) but spiritual reality.
The New Jerusalem has no temple (symbolism over reality over
The first Adam was a living soul (physical).

Ok. Did I mess with the pigs? LOL

No, we butchered those pigs and made liverwurst and bacon and ham

All is in the Spiritual realm up in the third heaven and parts are brought forth through the physical realm of where we are at here on earth. The Spiritual had to become physical to fulfill prophecy that Messiah would come in the form of flesh for in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily, Colossians 2:9. We know Jesus was in bodily form as we are, but yet being the fulness of God who spoke through him and also same with the Holy Spirit that God speaks through as nothing is spoken unless God speaks it.

We are made in Gods image as His image is love and purity of heart. That love manifested in the flesh of Jesus as He lived a human life here on earth with the same physical inner anatomy we all have, but did not possess a sin nature as we do. His thoughts are not our thoughts as His mind is the mind of God and who could ever know it. Jesus did not have a human father as He possessed the divine nature of His Heavenly Father so not sure if there could have been any DNA like we have other then coming from the lineage of Mary.

It's actually both physical as He being the fulfillment of the sacrificial law of the Temple that all who believe in Him by Gods grace through faith that all will have eternal life with the Father. The Spiritual for all things come by the Father as we are now made Spiritually renewed and are risen with Christ Spiritually. We are to seek those things from above in the Spiritual realm of God as His Holy Spirit now indwells us and as God speaks through the Holy Spirit as He did with Christ we now leave that of the carnal mind and listen to His teachings through a renewed Spiritual mind. Colossians 3:1-4.

Father, Son, Holy Spirit = Gods Spirit, John 12:44-50

 

[LovethroughDove]

The verses that spell it out clearly for me is:

1 Corinthians 15:27-28 For he(the Father) "has put everything under his(the Son) feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him(the Son), it is clear that this does not include God(the Father) himself, who put everything under Christ. When he(the Father) has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him(the Father) who put everything under him(the Son), so that God may be all in all.

This is the hierarchy in God. The Father is almighty, then the Son under the Father and then believers under the Son.

That is why Thomas said my Lord and my God, because Jesus is Lord over us

 

[Free]

The verses that spell it out clearly for me is:

1 Corinthians 15:27-28 For he(the Father) "has put everything under his(the Son) feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him(the Son), it is clear that this does not include God(the Father) himself, who put everything under Christ. When he(the Father) has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him(the Father) who put everything under him(the Son), so that God may be all in all.

This is the hierarchy in God. The Father is almighty, then the Son under the Father and then believers under the Son.

That is why Thomas said my Lord and my God, because Jesus is Lord over us

And the Holy Spirit?

 

[Free]

I Corinthians 15:45 KJV
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

So does Jesus have triune aspects?
The word - became flesh
The flesh - became a quickening spirit
The quickening spirit - wants to enter us
Revelation 3:20 KJV
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

eddif

Romans I:20 KJV
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Sun - Moon - Light. (Triune)
Source energy - Father
Jesus turned to blood - received authority
Father sends energy by spirit

II Corinthians 12:21 KJV (triune)
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.

On earth as in heaven

I Thessalonians 5:23 KJV (triune)
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I John 5:8 (triune / 3)
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

I apologize if needed. Creation is filled with things God created to reveal truth.

I live in a physical rural world that screams of the creator.

eddif

I think one needs to be much more careful in making triune connections between things as much of what you have given is totally arbitrary.