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Unraveling Revelation: There Were Giants in the Earth in Those Days

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Hi FHG, and good afternoon.

All the above is true, but this argument (I'm speaking of the sons of Seth argument in general, not yours specifically) never addresses the issue of CAN angels manifest in a physical form if they so choose to, particularly if they rebel against God. I think the strongest scriptural support for the idea they can is found in this narrative right here, and again it was the consistent opinion of antiquity that it not only could happen but did. The interpretation they were merely humans came much later.
God never called any of His angel’s sons. Jesus is Gods only begotten Son and the angels were ministering spirits. We who believe and are followers of God are brothers and sisters with Christ and sons and daughters of God. Satan believes in God, but is not a follower or worshiper of Him. The phrase sons of God is used four times in the OT and seven times in the New Testament. Every time sons of God is used it describes followers, believers and worshipers of God. (Genesis 6:2, 4; Job 1:6; Job 38:7; Hosea 1:10; John 1:12; Romans 8:14, 8:19 Gal 4:6; I John 3:12)

Angels, being a created spirit without any form, can only manifest themselves into human form by God's directive, but cannot have a material body like we have of flesh and blood nor do they have genitals. Antiquity teaches many things, but outside of scripture that many fall into that trap of a majority rule teaching.
 
CHRIST IS THE SEED OF THE WOMAN

First Christ had to be manifest as a human. Thus, Christ is the Seed of the woman.
Amen ! Praise God you understand this . There are some on this forum that do not believe this .
CHRIST PRODUCING SEED

However, Christ did not produce children physically by having relations with a woman. The physical is of the dust and is corrupt.

`The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption.` (1 Cor. 15: 42)

Jesus said –

`Do you not yet understand that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and is eliminated? But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man.

For out of the heart proceed evil thought, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies.` (Matt. 15:17 – 19)




This is how Christ produces children, His seed.

`Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a king of first-fruits of His creatures. ` (James 1: 18)



And Christ gives of His very own divine nature to us –

`Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and virtue,

by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.` (2 Peter 1: 2 – 4)



SATAN`S SEED.

The `seed` of Satan is not physical. The physical body is corrupt and will go to the grave – return to dust.

The `seed` of Satan is sown in the heart. That is why Jesus called the Pharisees of their Father the devil. They were human but because their heart`s were evil they were of Satan.

`You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar, and the father of it.` (John 8: 44)
New Testament Giants ?
Seed of Jesus ?
 
The sin called out by Jude is sexual immorality.

The ones Jude calls out are angels... specifically the angels who did not keep their proper domain, which is heaven, the spirit realm, but left their own abode.

6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; 7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 1:6-7

This plainly refers to the angels in the days of Noah, as Peter confirms.

4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 2 Peter 2:4-6

Again, the evidence is clear. Peter refers to angels who sinned during the days of Noah, and further examples Sodom and Gomorrah, because what the angels did is likened to the perversion of Sodom and Gomorrah.


I will ask you one last time.


What was the sin that the angels committed during the days of Noah that caused them to be cast down to hell?

  • if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah,
Where does it say that Jude used the words sexual immorality, or anything near this?

I see the word "similar" as these angels sinning against God like that of Sodom and Gomorrah, but only the act of sin falling away from God, not procreating, as being destroyed in God's judgement like that of God destroying Sodom and Gomorrah.

We need to understand what Nephilim means.

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance - Nephilim
Part of Speech: noun masculine
Transliteration: Nephilim
Phonetic Spelling : nef-eel
Definition: "giants", name of two people, one before the flood and one after the flood

Rephaim - race of giants Genesis 14:5-7; Deuteronomy 3:11-13; 2 Samuel 21:16-20, Og the king of Bashan was the last of the Rephaim
Anakim - race of giants Numbers 13:33; Deuteronomy 2:10; 9:2 Anak son of Arba Joshua 15:13 descendant of Canaan, son of Ham
Emim - the proud deserters, terrors, race of giants Genesis 14:5-7; Genesis, 19:37; Deuteronomy 2:10, 11 descendants of Canaan, son of Ham
Zuzim/Zamzummim's the evil ones, roaming things Genesis 14:5-7, 19:38 Deuteronomy 2:20 descendants of Canaan, son of Ham
 
Where does it say that Jude used the words sexual immorality, or anything near this?

FHG, verse 4 has, θεοῦ ἡμῶν χάριτα μετατιθέντες εἰς ἀσέλγειαν = "changing the grace of our God into sexual licentiousness" or as the NIV puts it, "a license for immorality." The word ἀσέλγειαν keeps regular company in the New Testament, the LXX and Greek usage with adultery, fornication, and sexual covetousness, idolatry, and uncleanness (see Galatians 5:19, 2 Corinthians 12:21, and 2 Peter 2:2 and 2:7).

Keep in mind too that Jude is based entirely off of 2nd Peter, which very clearly talks about sexual immorality throughout.
 
..."all flesh was corrupted" (Gen. 6:12).

I wish it was. Rather, "all flesh" = bāśār :
  1. flesh
    1. of the body
      1. of humans
      2. of animals
    2. the body itself
    3. male organ of generation (euphemism)
    4. kindred, blood-relations
    5. flesh as frail or erring (man against God)
    6. all living things
    7. animals
    8. mankind
source
Again, you're reading into the text.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h1320/kjv/wlc/0-1/
"And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature." (Num. 13:32).

Rather "a land" = 'ereṣ :
  1. land, earth
    1. earth
      1. whole earth (as opposed to a part)
      2. earth (as opposed to heaven)
      3. earth (inhabitants)
    2. land
      1. country, territory
      2. district, region
      3. tribal territory
      4. piece of ground
      5. land of Canaan, Israel
      6. inhabitants of land
      7. Sheol, land without return, (under) world
      8. city (-state)
    3. ground, surface of the earth
      1. ground
      2. soil
    4. (in phrases)
      1. people of the land
      2. space or distance of country (in measurements of distance)
      3. level or plain country
      4. land of the living
      5. end(s) of the earth
    5. (almost wholly late in usage)
      1. lands, countries
        1. often in contrast to Canaan
source
Again, you're reading into the text. There is nothing about cannibalism. I find it's best to stick with what the Bible clearly states.
 
Amen ! Praise God you understand this . There are some on this forum that do not believe this .

New Testament Giants ?
Seed of Jesus ?
Hi Hawk,

Glad we agree on that important point - the seed of the woman.


Now I believe that any giants are just a variation of the normal.

The `seed of Jesus`

This is how God`s word tells us that Christ produces children, His seed.

`Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of first-fruits of His creatures. ` (James 1: 18)


And Christ gives of His very own divine nature to us –

`Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and virtue,

by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.` (2 Peter 1: 2 – 4)
 
The inference to cannibalism is blatantly obvious as per the source I provided. The reference to "all flesh", as including animals, is likewise blatantly obvious as per the source I provided.
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Again, you're reading into the text. There is nothing about cannibalism.
Rather, we readers are simply "reading" the published etymological definitions of said words.

Reposting my sources and then repeating your now familiar mantra won't make those definitions go away.

I find it's best to stick with what the Bible clearly states.
Furthermore, and most concerning, you have previously admitted that your copyrighted ESV® is not the inspired word of God. Thus, your claim to know "what the Bible clearly states" is forfeit.
 
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How do you interpret Job 1:6 and 38:7?

The Bible classifies some angels as “elect” (1 Timothy 5:21) or “holy” (Matthew25:31; Mark 8:38). All angels were created to be holy, enjoying the presence of God (Matthew 18:10) and the beauty of heaven (Mark13:32).
Other angels oppose God under the leadership of Satan (Isaiah 14:12-20) whom even Satan is a created spirit of God that is why God could never destroy him because a spirit can not die. (Matthew 25:41; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 1: 6;Ephesians 6:12). We often call these types of angels demons for which an everlasting fire is prepared by God for these angels.

In Job 1:6 and 38:7 the morning stars were angelic angels that always kept their first estate and gave praise to the Lord.
Notice the word "Sabeans" in Job 1:15 being in whom Satan worked through to try and destroy Job causing him to lose faith in God. They were raiders who violently attached Job's servants. killed them and stole livestock. Genesis 10:7 links them to the descendants of Cush, the son of Ham. This connects them to the Cushite people living in NE Africa and S Arabia.

When you read Job 1:14-19 these were messengers (angels of God - sons of God) who stood before the Lord in vs.16 to present themselves before the Lord receiving instruction from God.
 
FHG, verse 4 has, θεοῦ ἡμῶν χάριτα μετατιθέντες εἰς ἀσέλγειαν = "changing the grace of our God into sexual licentiousness" or as the NIV puts it, "a license for immorality." The word ἀσέλγειαν keeps regular company in the New Testament, the LXX and Greek usage with adultery, fornication, and sexual covetousness, idolatry, and uncleanness (see Galatians 5:19, 2 Corinthians 12:21, and 2 Peter 2:2 and 2:7).

Keep in mind too that Jude is based entirely off of 2nd Peter, which very clearly talks about sexual immorality throughout.
Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

With all due respect, anyone can read this verse without the Greek to know what the word lasciviousness means. I'm sorry, but I have to stand my ground in not believing fallen angels have genitals producing sperm.
 
The Bible classifies some angels as “elect” (1 Timothy 5:21) or “holy” (Matthew25:31; Mark 8:38). All angels were created to be holy, enjoying the presence of God (Matthew 18:10) and the beauty of heaven (Mark13:32).
Other angels oppose God under the leadership of Satan (Isaiah 14:12-20) whom even Satan is a created spirit of God that is why God could never destroy him because a spirit can not die. (Matthew 25:41; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 1: 6;Ephesians 6:12). We often call these types of angels demons for which an everlasting fire is prepared by God for these angels.

In Job 1:6 and 38:7 the morning stars were angelic angels that always kept their first estate and gave praise to the Lord.
Notice the word "Sabeans" in Job 1:15 being in whom Satan worked through to try and destroy Job causing him to lose faith in God. They were raiders who violently attached Job's servants. killed them and stole livestock. Genesis 10:7 links them to the descendants of Cush, the son of Ham. This connects them to the Cushite people living in NE Africa and S Arabia.

When you read Job 1:14-19 these were messengers (angels of God - sons of God) who stood before the Lord in vs.16 to present themselves before the Lord receiving instruction from God.

Trying to follow this. If you could, are you saying the sons of God in 1:6 were men, and that Satan was possessing them in order to oppose Job?
 
With all due respect, anyone can read this verse without the Greek to know what the word lasciviousness means.

Some don't, LoL. Modern vocabulary is not such that most people readily understand what terms like lasciviousness and licentiousness are specifically referring to. A few decades ago I didn't either, until I looked it up, so I figure providing it for the average viewer just in case can't hurt : )
 
What you should note here is that you're using a corrupted translation,
This is a fallacious argument.

"NOW it came to pass" is omitted. It never came to pass in any previous generations before Gen. 6:1.

Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them ... (NKJV)
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them ... (KJV)
Now it came about, when mankind began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, (NASB)
Then the people began to multiply on the earth, and daughters were born to them. (NLT)
That actually doesn't change the meaning of anything. To simply say, "When man began to multiply on the face of the earth," implies "now it came to pass." When else would it come to pass?

Already debunked. The context in Matt. 22:30 is angels in HEAVEN, not on earth. When angels appeared in human form on earth, they do have the ability.
No, it is not debunked, not even close. It's a fallacious argument for at least a couple of reasons.

Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom ... (Gen. 19:1)
“Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them carnally.”(Gen. 19:5)
They looked like men. You're again fallaciously begging the question by assuming that the angels had the ability to procreate. More than that, as I have pointed out and you continually ignore, according to your position, it means that the angels can create ex nihilo. But that power belongs to God alone.

To ignore the context "angels of God IN HEAVEN" is nonsensical. A sign of cognitive disonance, the mental discomfort when confronting clear evidence and facts contrary to one's deeply embedded beliefs.
I have ignored nothing. You're once again fallaciously begging the question by assuming that angels on earth are different than angels in heaven. The whole context of what Jesus was addressing was the resurrection and life in heaven.

What's going far beyond the Scripture is baselessly speculation that "sons of God" were righteous descendants of Seth and "daughters of man" were wicked descendants of Cain.
No, I've shown that it is a legitimate understanding and is the stronger position, given the context and language in the OT of those who are godly and righteous being children of God. Your position relies on too many assumptions and speculation, as I have also shown.

Where are "those who are faithful to God" in this context, exactly? And what does that have anything to do with the pre-flood world? Where Noah alone was righteous, everybody else was crooked and twisted, whether they were descendants of Seth or Cain?

No, they neither are nor can legitimately be.
Yes, they can, as I clearly showed.

Calling upon the name of the Lord doesn't make the caller godly; even if they were godly, there had been seven generations and more than a thousand years from Enosh to Noah, godliness was not something that can be passed down through genes.
I never said it was passed down through the genes. Please stick to addressing what I actually wrote and stop assuming.

In Noah's generation, everybody was evil to the core, nobody was calling upon the name of the Lord, even Noah himself didn't "call upon the name of the Lord", the Lord called him first in 6:13.

Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. (Matt. 7:21)
Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. (Gen. 6:5)
My whole point was clearly that there is no mention of godliness or "calling upon the name of the LORD" in Cain's line, but there is at a few points in Seth's line, including Noah, whom is mentioned immediately prior to 6:1.

You're distorting the word of God by reversing the order.
No, it's a legitimate reading of the text. The sooner you understand that, the better.
 
The inference to cannibalism is blatantly obvious as per the source I provided.
Not only is it not "blatantly obvious," you're not understanding how your source works, how it is to be used.

The reference to "all flesh", as including animals, is likewise blatantly obvious as per the source I provided.
It could refer to animals, in certain contexts, but that context is not here:

Gen 6:12 And God saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth. (ESV)

That is speaking of humans only, since animals did not corrupt their own way; indeed, they can't morally corrupt their way. You would have to argue that animals can sin. Good luck with that.

And, it absolutely does not mean that there was procreation between humans and animals, as you strongly implied, HERE.

Rather, we readers are simply "reading" the published etymological definitions of said words.

Reposting my sources and then repeating your now familiar mantra won't make those definitions go away.
Posting a source such as a lexicon proves nothing, since it gives all meanings of a word. You're misusing those sources. You don't seem to understand how those sources work within biblical interpretation, nor indeed how biblical interpretation works. You're picking and choosing which definition of a word you want that works for your preconceived ideas and ignoring context in the process. But that is not how biblical interpretation works. Context is the main way we determine which meaning is most likely. The sooner you learn that, the better.

And, I never intentionally reposted anything. There is a bug in the formatting when quoting sometimes. It always seems to be links.

Furthermore, and most concerning, you have previously admitted that your copyrighted ESV® is not the inspired word of God. Thus, your claim to know "what the Bible clearly states" is forfeit.
You're misrepresenting what I have said and are fallaciously begging the question regarding the KJV. If you want to get into the demonic, needlessly divisive, utterly irrational belief known as KJV Onlyism, start a new thread. Your fallacious argument here makes nothing I've said forfeit.
 
If you want to get into the demonic, needlessly divisive, utterly irrational belief known as KJV Onlyism, start a new thread.
Why don't you? You're already quoting from a version that you admit is not the inspired word of God. What more could go wrong for you?

Thus the problem, again, comes back to an issue of authority. This is why the OP, and rather walking in truth and not in someone's version of it, are abundantly relevant to everyone's current situation concerning the Holy Bible's description of the upcoming return of the giants (ala Mat. 24:37).
 
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There are no verses that state such a thing . Do you have anything to offer otherwise ?

Notice in the verse where the angels are that don't marry , Jesus could have said angels but he qualified where the angels were at "in heaven " , why would he do that ?

Did you watch the video I posted ?

Every instance of "sons of God " in the old testament is talking about angels . Gen 6 , Job 1:6 , Job 2:1 and Job38:7 .


Marriage is not prerequisite for procreation .
Notice in the verse where the angels are that don't marry , Jesus could have said angels but he qualified where the angels were at "in heaven " , why would he do that ?

Did you watch the video I posted ?
Hi Hawkman,

I finally listened to the whole of that video. To me so much speculation, theories, (as they call their view) and very little back up. So, the crux of it was that those fallen angels having relationship with women brought forth hybrids - demons. Sharon says she doesn`t know where they got their spirits from. Only one source and God is not going to give so called hybrids a spirit.

Moving on the couple (Derek and Sharon) talk about how these demons will inhibit the Armageddon soldiers. They say they will come against Israel and be buried in the valley of Hamon Gog, (the multitude of Gog).

Derek and Sharon spiritualize most things whereas a clear reading of Ez. 38 & 39 reveals that the northern army are humans coming against Israel to acquire goods. God deals with them by an earthquake and volcano (brimstone) and everyman`s sword will be against his brother. (Ez. 38: 21)

In the battle of Armageddon however, it is the Lord`s voice that causes the very flesh of man and animals to disintegrate. (Zech. 14: 12 Rev. 19: 15 - 21)

This couple call God`s word an enigma, and need to find out the code. Actually it is God who wrote His word and He means what He says and says what He means. It is all pointing to Jesus and His great work as - Head of the Body, as Heir of all things, as Mediator of the New Covenant and as Judge and Creator of all things new. ALL details of symbols and types etc are throughout God`s word. God interprets His word IN His word.
 
Why don't you? You're already quoting from a version that you admit is not the inspired word of God. What more could go wrong for you?
Either start a new thread to discuss your demonic beliefs or stop bringing them up. And stop misrepresenting what I have said; that is a violation of the ToS. Please either contribute to the topic or leave the discussion.

Thus the problem, again, comes back to an issue of authority. This is why the OP, and rather walking in truth and not in someone's version of it, are abundantly relevant to everyone's current situation concerning the Holy Bible's description of the upcoming return of the giants (ala Mat. 24:37).
There is nothing in the Bible about the return of giants. You are divorcing Matt. 24:37 from the context and using it as a prooftext for your preconceived ideas. Matthew tells us what he means:

Mat 24:36 “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.
Mat 24:37 For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Mat 24:38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark,
Mat 24:39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Mat 24:40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left.
Mat 24:41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left.
Mat 24:42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. (ESV)
 
This is a fallacious argument.
How so? Where's "NOW it came to pass" in your quote? Where is it?
That actually doesn't change the meaning of anything. To simply say, "When man began to multiply on the face of the earth," implies "now it came to pass." When else would it come to pass?
When Noah was 500 years old, Gen. 5:32. You erroneously assmued that "they had clearly been multiplying for well over a thousand years", but there's nothing to suggest any significant population growth until that point. From Adam to Noah, everyone down the bloodline had sons and daughters, but it never "came to pass" until Noah's generation.
No, it is not debunked, not even close. It's a fallacious argument for at least a couple of reasons.
What reasons?
They looked like men. You're again fallaciously begging the question by assuming that the angels had the ability to procreate. More than that, as I have pointed out and you continually ignore, according to your position, it means that the angels can create ex nihilo. But that power belongs to God alone.
You're falsely assuming angels retain their celestial forms on earth, which is contradictory to what the bible teaches. You are conflating celestial body terrestial body, even though Paul made a clear distinction between the two.

There are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. (1 Cor. 15:40)
I have ignored nothing.
You've ignored "in heaven", and you're in denial.
You're once again fallaciously begging the question by assuming that angels on earth are different than angels in heaven.
You spit at everybody with the false accusation "fallaciously begging the question" when you have no valid reasoning. It's like "sexist" or "racist", you know, when you spam it like that, it loses its potency. At least try something else. Where's your creative power? And I don't beg any question in this case, angels on earth are absolutely different than angels in heaven, 1 Cor. 15:40 says so.
The whole context of what Jesus was addressing was the resurrection and life in heaven.
Then why are you relentlessly applying that to the pre-flood world in Gen. 6, which was neither in resurrection or in heaven? That's another clear distinction, that there was no marrying or giving in marriage in resurrection or in heaven, but the pre-flood world was the polar opposite, the hallmark or the zeitgeist of that era was "marrying or giving in marriage", Jesus specifically pointed that out in Matt. 24:38!
No, I've shown that it is a legitimate understanding and is the stronger position, given the context and language in the OT of those who are godly and righteous being children of God. Your position relies on too many assumptions and speculation, as I have also shown.
You've shown nothing, I've debunked your erroneous arguments one by one. You're the one who keeps making assumptions and speculations, not me. You falsely claim "Context and language in the OT", and yet you're using NT context and language to justify your supposed "stronger position", which are not applicable at all since Jesus was not there for anybody to have access to God, how is that a "legitimate understanding"?
Yes, they can, as I clearly showed.
No they can't, you've showned nothing.
I never said it was passed down through the genes. Please stick to addressing what I actually wrote and stop assuming.
O really? Then who wrote these below? Was your previous account stolen or something? Did somebody else write these without your permission?
In Genesis 4, we see the line of Cain:
Lamech was evil, in the way of Cain but much worse. And, yes, that contrasts with Seth's line:
Right from the start Cain's line was evil and Seth's line "began to call upon the name of the LORD."
You're blatantly contradicting biblical truth, and you don't have the gut to admit it.

The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. (Ez.18:20)
My whole point was clearly that there is no mention of godliness or "calling upon the name of the LORD" in Cain's line, but there is at a few points in Seth's line, including Noah, whom is mentioned immediately prior to 6:1.
So what? How does it matter, regarding the principle stated in Ez. 18:20? Where's the distinctiong between "Cain's line" and "Seth's line" in the CONTEXT of Gen. 6? I'm not asking you what's prior to 6:1, the topic is set in THOSE DAYS, which was Noah's generation, where everyone was evil to the core, the whole earth was corrupt, other than Noah and his family, there's not beep about who's Cain's descendants and who's Seth's descendants, God didn't discriminate like you do. And I've repeatedly shown that "calling upon the name of the LORD" alone means nothing to God. In modern terms, that's just "virtue signaling".

When you spread out your hands, I will hide My eyes from you; Even though you make many prayers, I will not hear. Your hands are full of blood. (Is. 1:15)
And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. (Matt. 6:5)
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. (Matt. 7:21)
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. (Lk. 18:11)
No, it's a legitimate reading of the text. The sooner you understand that, the better.
The sooner you realize that this "legitimate reading" is like the emperor's new clothes, the better.
 
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Oh really? Then how did the giants manage to make a comeback, since they existed "afterwards"? How did they return in Moses's and David's times?
Maybe think harder about your response to what I said.
 
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