Was Peter Ever In Rome ?

[Lewis]

So is there tours available today to go see this tomb? Why isn't it ever in the news? Conspiracy theories?

It was in the news, and I do hear about it from time to time. It was even on the History channel I think it was, or the Discovery channel, I can't remember.

http://www.leaderu.com/theology/burialcave.html

 

[Georges]

Are you sure it wasn't Simon Magnus instead of Simon Peter?

 

[Georges]

1Pe 5:13 The [church that is] at Babylon, elected together with [you], saluteth you; and [so doth] Marcus my son.

Church at Babylon? Peter seems to be writting to the Chruches in Asia Minor from Babylon.....and Mark appears to be Peter's son?

 

[Lewis]

and Mark appears to be Peter's son?

""""""HUH""""""

 

[Imagican]

Agreed.

While there 'may have been' a Peter that was one of the first leaders of the RCC, there is NO concrete 'evidence' that the 'apostle' Peter was 'this leader'.

MEC

Quite hypocritcal of you imagican. You swear up and down that Constantine started the Catholic Church. You defend it by citing from history. Yet when the same historical texts are used to show Peter was in Rome you obvuscate. Very sad. :-?

Boy Thess, you get all bent out of shape when someone 'puts words in your mouth', but it doesn't seem 'to count' when you do it to others.

I have NEVER stated ONCE that Contantine 'started the CC'. NEVER. Constantine 'allowed' Christianity to become an 'accepted' religion by the Romans. He WAS the LEADER of the Roman Empire at the time that Christianity became accepted. But Constantine WASN'T even a Christian until days or hours before he died. And we don't 'truly' KNOW if he was EVER a Christian. He certainly NEVER lived like one.

Now, what I HAVE stated, on NUMEROUS occasions, is that Constantine was the ULTIMATE decision maker concerning the 'doctrine' of 'trinity'. After both sides said their piece, Constantine sided with those that 'pushed' for 'trinity'. I would imagine that it had ALOT to do with himself being familiar with a 'triune god' in his religion, Maybe not, maybe it was simply a matter of 'who he favored at the time'. Don't know the answer to this question, but he OBVIOUSLY didn't know enough about Christianity to have been previously informed as to ANY details concerning the 'TRUTH' concerning Christ and God.

No, I would imagine if we had a 'completely accurate' history of the CC, we would find that it was formed 'partially' by Christians in Rome, and 'partially' by the religious leaders that 'had' been devoted to 'other' gods PREVIOUS to the introduction of Christianity into the Roman Empire.

Conviently, for the CC, there is NO completely 'accurate' history of 'their formation'.

MEC

 

[Lewis]

But Constantine's mother Helena certainly knew a lot about Christianity, and she also had to be a influence on him. She even held Christian archeological expeditions . And she did find important Biblical sites. Then some say that she converted behind her son, who knows.

 

[Imagican]

What we DO know from history is that, Yes, his mother WAS a Christian and THAT is the MAIN reason that He did SO much to 'legalize' Christianity. He had CERTAINLY been exposed to it through her. But we also know from history that he didn't even become baptized, (sprinkled maybe?), until laying in his death-bed.

This is a man RAISED by an Emperor. Who sat in Royal seats at the arena, worshiped Mithra, and performed some pretty ALL OUT Romanish DEEDS durring his life. There is MUCH history of his life and leadership and MOST indicates that his MAIN goal in STOPING the persecution of Christians was for the sake of his mother.