We Are Made Out Of Light...

[Edward]

We are made out of light. I've suspected this for awhile now, and keep running across scriptures which support the notion. We were created spirit beings, in God's own image and likeness, and God is a Spirit, therefor we are spirit beings.

Before the fall of man, our spirit rode on the outside of our flesh, being "clothed" if you will, in light.
Psalm 104:1-2
104 Bless the Lord, O my soul. O Lord my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.
2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:.../

Therefor, Adam & Eve were not naked. When they fell, our spirit was pushed inside of us, out of the preeminent position...we 'died' spiritually that day. God's response, was to immediately provide a covering for them and shed an animals blood to aquire the skin for them to use as a covering.

Then they started teaching that we are human beings, but on a spiritual journey and got everyone all confused about who and what we really are. You are not human, you are a spirit. We are to be led by the spirit. What's that mean? The Holy Spirit? Yes, the Holy Spirit, however, if we are to be led of the Spirit...we have to ready ourselves to receive His Spirit to lead and guide us. This is done by allowing our own spirit to take the preeminent position within us and thereby focus our heart and spirit on God. Practice allowing your spirit to take his proper position of preeminence within you.

Scripture does not refer to our bodies as flesh and blood. but flesh and bone. Genesis 2:23, Luke 24:39, and that's very curious to me, why man teaches flesh and blood, but it's flesh and bone. There's got to be a deception in there somewhere. Scientists are now pretty sure that Blood is made out of congealed light. But of course it is! Scripture does say that life is in the blood, and that life is none other than our Lord, who is the life and light of our world.

So when we fell, the light congealed, was pushed inside of us, to become subservient to the flesh. Our flesh dominates us. We're left without an identity...until Jesus came, that is!

In Hebrews 4:12, we are given a hint, of what must happen for us to regain our true spiritual identity, for our spirit to take again the position of preeminence, so that we can live and grow, in Christ, as the children of God (light) that we are. Remember the mount of transfiguration? What really happened there? I think that Jesus, merely allowed His Spirit to come to the outside of Himself, for a breath of fresh air.

Doing that, totally blew the minds of the Apostles who were present, who didn't know what to say or do at this happening. It was, WOW! Look at Him now! (Not knowing, that they themselves could do this very thing!)

As newborn Christians, scripture says that we become a new creation, transformed by the renewing of our minds (Rom 12). not to sit down and say, one day...the Lord wiil change me, da da da. The day is today, the time is now. Comprehend your spiritual nature, and walk in it,

Eh? :wink

 

[Winnie]

I heard a woman give her testimony when God pulled her out of a sinful job. She saw what everybody who was unsaved looked like in the spirit. They looked like the walking dead, kind of what you see in the movies, but saved people had a bright glow.

 

[Edward]

I've heard quite a bit of testimonies over time of people who saw others glowing, mostly Christians! lol. It does say in scripture (quite a bit) to let your light shine before men...I don't think that's allegorical at this point, lol. I think that we do glow, and probably every single thing that we do, think, or say, causes our light to grow brighter...or dimmer.

In the Spiritual, and here, but the reason most can't see it on people, is twofold, one, because most are sinful and in darkness, and also because, we're caught up in the natural world and do not think as spirit beings, one with Christ in us with His Glory, which shines. We have eyes to see, but can not see.Scripture says that God's glory will manifest itself on us. I think that back in Isaiah somewhere? 60 I think?

Riddle. What's faster than the speed of light?

 

[Edward]

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Darkness!
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because it runs from the light.

 

[jasonc]

Metaphors,light is when God moves,darkness isnt.

Genesis one.

Blood is well turned into several things,cerebral fluid,white blood cells,spinal fluid.

 

[Free]

Before the fall of man, our spirit rode on the outside of our flesh, being "clothed" if you will, in light.

Please provide scriptural support.

Therefor, Adam & Eve were not naked. When they fell, our spirit was pushed inside of us, out of the preeminent position...

Again, please provide scriptural support.

Scripture does not refer to our bodies as flesh and blood. but flesh and bone. Genesis 2:23, Luke 24:39, and that's very curious to me, why man teaches flesh and blood, but it's flesh and bone.

Incorrect.

Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. (ESV)

1Co 15:50 I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. (ESV)

Heb 2:14 Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, (ESV)

There's got to be a deception in there somewhere. Scientists are now pretty sure that Blood is made out of congealed light. But of course it is! Scripture does say that life is in the blood, and that life is none other than our Lord, who is the life and light of our world.

"Scientists" think that blood is made of congealed light? Do you have legit sources for that? Liquids congeal, btw.

What you're saying is that our Lord is congealed in our blood or is congealed as our blood. Do you have any scriptural evidence for this?

In Hebrews 4:12, we are given a hint, of what must happen for us to regain our true spiritual identity, for our spirit to take again the position of preeminence, so that we can live and grow, in Christ, as the children of God (light) that we are.

What, specifically, does Heb. 4:12 say that is in any ways hint "of what must happen to us to regain our true spiritual identity"?

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. (ESV)

This talks only of the word of God.

Remember the mount of transfiguration? What really happened there? I think that Jesus, merely allowed His Spirit to come to the outside of Himself, for a breath of fresh air.

You think that is what happened. Do you have scriptural evidence?

 

[Edward]

Please provide scriptural support. Psalm 104:2


Again, please provide scriptural support. Genesis 3:7. Why didn't Adam & Eve know that they were naked until after the fall?


Incorrect.

Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. (ESV)

1Co 15:50 I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. (ESV)

Heb 2:14 Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, (ESV)
Oh, you got me on that one. It does refer to flesh and blood. I stand corrected here.


"Scientists" think that blood is made of congealed light? Do you have legit sources for that? Liquids congeal, btw.

What you're saying is that our Lord is congealed in our blood or is congealed as our blood. Do you have any scriptural evidence for this? I didn't actually say that, but it may just be an accurate statement. Psalm 56:13, John 1:4, 1 John 1: 5-7


What, specifically, does Heb. 4:12 say that is in any ways hint "of what must happen to us to regain our true spiritual identity"? The dividing of our spirit from our soul,. joints and marrow. Our spirit should be in the dominant position.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. (ESV)

This talks only of the word of God. Apparently, it's done through the Word of God, from how it reads.


You think that is what happened. Do you have scriptural evidence? I do for some of it. I posted it. Some of it is conjecture, I'm tryin to work it out. It seems important.

 

[Free]

Edward Please correct your formatting. The way it is makes it very cumbersome to reply to.

 

[Edward]

Isaiah 60:1-3
Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.

2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.../(KJV)

Mark 9 (The Transfiguration)

 

[stovebolts]

Hi brother Edward

Looks like you've got an interesting study going here, bravo! and Kuddo's to you. I really do like the way your not afraid to think about things!

Just a few passages for you to look at, what do you think of these?

John 1:4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
And this one that John also wrote.
1 John 5 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7 But Sif we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.

 

[stovebolts]

Metaphors,light is when God moves,darkness isnt.

Genesis one.

Blood is well turned into several things,cerebral fluid,white blood cells,spinal fluid.

Darnkess is simply that which has not yet been created... ;-)

 

[Edward]

Hi brother Edward

Looks like you've got an interesting study going here, bravo! and Kuddo's to you. I really do like the way your not afraid to think about things!

Just a few passages for you to look at, what do you think of these?

John 1:4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
And this one that John also wrote.
1 John 5 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7 But Sif we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.

After chewing on these for a bit, I think, you see where I'm going with this because those are my point, lol. So God is light, we were created in His very image, Our spirit used to be dominant before the fall, (I think we lost more than people realize in the fall), but more importantly, I think we gained more than people realize in the new covenant. I think that we got it all back in the new covenant. Jesus said, all that He is, we can be and are. This makes sense too, since we are in Christ, and Christ is in us.

And from what these passages say, that you posted, in Him was life, and the life was the light of men...but in another place in scripture, it says that life is in the blood...so blood would therefore be light, and Jesus like Free asked. I guess this answers that also.

Sorry about not changing the format on that post there, Free, but it's just too darn long. lol.

We may have just hit on the answer as to why many prayers go unanswered...We're to be walking in this. Not Oh God, please help all the time. We own it. It's paid for and a done deal. We're to do these things ourself, I believe. Not beg God for something that He's already given us. It's like, when Paul wanted God to remove his thorn in the flesh...and God replied, my grace is sufficient for thee...right, Brother?

I think so.

 

[Kidron]

Christians both live on earth and also within a Spiritual Kingdom of Righteousness as we are "seated in Heavenly places" right this very second while still connected by gravity to an ever spinning world.
We have become a "joint heir with Christ" within a "Kingdom" that is spiritual, that is within us, as we are "In Christ" and "Christ in you the hope of Glory", and Glory is the very Godlight of Heaven.

Our Kingdom, is a "kingdom of Light", and we are "Children of the Light" who have by the Holy Spirit been birthed into this Kingdom of Light where only the "Gift Of Righteousness" alone through the Blood Atonement recreates us (born again) to be deemed worthy by God our Father to eternally exist within it.
Jesus gives us "light for life" as Jesus is "the Way, the Truth, and the Life"...
We as believers are "translated from darkness to Light" and the word of God is a light shining out of darkness, a light for our path, and a map of Holy Love and divine wisdom that leads us always to our final destination .

 

[stovebolts]

After chewing on these for a bit, I think, you see where I'm going with this because those are my point, lol. So God is light, we were created in His very image, Our spirit used to be dominant before the fall, (I think we lost more than people realize in the fall), but more importantly, I think we gained more than people realize in the new covenant. I think that we got it all back in the new covenant. Jesus said, all that He is, we can be and are. This makes sense too, since we are in Christ, and Christ is in us.

And from what these passages say, that you posted, in Him was life, and the life was the light of men...but in another place in scripture, it says that life is in the blood...so blood would therefore be light, and Jesus like Free asked. I guess this answers that also.

Sorry about not changing the format on that post there, Free, but it's just too darn long. lol.

We may have just hit on the answer as to why many prayers go unanswered...We're to be walking in this. Not Oh God, please help all the time. We own it. It's paid for and a done deal. We're to do these things ourself, I believe. Not beg God for something that He's already given us. It's like, when Paul wanted God to remove his thorn in the flesh...and God replied, my grace is sufficient for thee...right, Brother?

I think so.

Hi Edward
I see where you are going with this, and I can even understand where your coming from. You've always enjoyed stretching your mind, and I see nothing wrong with what you've written because I know you well enough that you seek in the name, of the Lord.
I do see things a bit differently, but in a way that compliments. I do wish I was not on my phone, and maybe I'll try a reply on my lunch.

Best to you!

 

[Edward]

Hi Edward
I see where you are going with this, and I can even understand where your coming from. You've always enjoyed stretching your mind, and I see nothing wrong with what you've written because I know you well enough that you seek in the name, of the Lord.
I do see things a bit differently, but in a way that compliments. I do wish I was not on my phone, and maybe I'll try a reply on my lunch.

Best to you!

Thanks, Brother. Blessings upon you and yours too. It all started from me thinking, there's got to be more, in Christianity, besides church once a week and communion once a year, lol. I felt like, what can I do, nothing. I'm no spiritual giant like the men of yesteryear. I can't do anything. But want to. Now it's all coming out. We are nothing and can do nothing, except in Christ who can do all, and we can too in Christ.

Pastors from the alternative media (Lol) are talking about it too, now. We've been given so much from the Lord and yet don't reach out and take it. All that He is, we are, in Christ. All we need to do is to speak with authority in Christ. Then we own it, thanks and praise to God!

He's coming soon. I know that He's coming for a mature church, and not a bunch of babes in Christ. I have to do my part to mature. Usually all that takes is stepping out in faith.

 

[eddif]

I think the clothing you are describing best fits lucifer of Ezekiel and Isaiah passages. For his elevated thoughts he was cast out of heaven.

I do not wish to say any more till you study lucifer.

eddif

 

[Edward]

I think the clothing you are describing best fits lucifer of Ezekiel and Isaiah passages. For his elevated thoughts he was cast out of heaven.

I do not wish to say any more till you study lucifer.

eddif

So, it sounds like that you're thinking that I'm confused somehow and all this applioes to lucifer, probably along the lines of that lucifer can disguise himself as an angel of light? Interesting.

But no, I'm not talking about lucifer. I'm talking about God (Psalm 104:2), and man. Nevertheless, I'm off work today, and that's a reasonable request. I read about lucifer today...

 

[stovebolts]

Hi Edward, yes, we are tracking !

[qoute="Edward"]And from what these passages say, that you posted, in Him was life, and the life was the light of men...but in another place in scripture, it says that life is in the blood...so blood would therefore be light, and Jesus like Free asked. I guess this answers that also.[/quote]

Funny... we take communion every Lord's day and when I wrote you, I was writing with this in mind as I was thinking on this Sunday. Here are a few of my thoughts.
Without blood, we die. It's a simple fact. Moses wrote that life was in the blood and then Jesus says "Drink my blood" and then later, "This is the blood of the new covenant". Some people get all weird about this, so I figure what the heck, I can add to the weirdness lol!
So what was Jesus saying? We know that we have "Christ in us", and he "gives us life". Why then is it a stretch to say, "Jesus flows in my blood", or better yet, "I have the blood of Jesus in me". I don't think it's a stretch.... So when Jesus says "Drink my blood", he's saying, "I will flow through your very viens, becasue it is I who give you life".

What does this have to do with light? Well, in a nutshell I view light as a metaphor for all things created. Darkness takes on the form of things not created. Now, what does this have to do with "Walking in the light"? Walking is a metaphor for doing. Paul steps out of the boat because he believes he can do the things Jesus is doing. And we should feel the same way. You see, we need to "Walk as Jesus walked" and we can because he lives in our viens.

God only creates good things though his action and by him not acting, he creates darkness (things not created). God doesn't actively create evil but rather, it is his inaction that creates evil. If we are to walk in the light, it means we are active in our faith. We do things in accordance to God's will. When we fail to do Gods will, we no longer create and what is left in the void is darkness, which has always been. When we walk in the light, we are the light.

How's that for hacking some thoughts together with a stuffy head and a headache? I'm just getting over the flu...

 

[Edward]

Hi Edward, yes, we are tracking !

[qoute="Edward"]And from what these passages say, that you posted, in Him was life, and the life was the light of men...but in another place in scripture, it says that life is in the blood...so blood would therefore be light, and Jesus like Free asked. I guess this answers that also.

Funny... we take communion every Lord's day and when I wrote you, I was writing with this in mind as I was thinking on this Sunday. Here are a few of my thoughts.
Without blood, we die. It's a simple fact. Moses wrote that life was in the blood and then Jesus says "Drink my blood" and then later, "This is the blood of the new covenant". Some people get all weird about this, so I figure what the heck, I can add to the weirdness lol!
So what was Jesus saying? We know that we have "Christ in us", and he "gives us life". Why then is it a stretch to say, "Jesus flows in my blood", or better yet, "I have the blood of Jesus in me". I don't think it's a stretch.... So when Jesus says "Drink my blood", he's saying, "I will flow through your very viens, becasue it is I who give you life".

What does this have to do with light? Well, in a nutshell I view light as a metaphor for all things created. Darkness takes on the form of things not created. Now, what does this have to do with "Walking in the light"? Walking is a metaphor for doing. Paul steps out of the boat because he believes he can do the things Jesus is doing. And we should feel the same way. You see, we need to "Walk as Jesus walked" and we can because he lives in our viens.

God only creates good things though his action and by him not acting, he creates darkness (things not created). God doesn't actively create evil but rather, it is his inaction that creates evil. If we are to walk in the light, it means we are active in our faith. We do things in accordance to God's will. When we fail to do Gods will, we no longer create and what is left in the void is darkness, which has always been. When we walk in the light, we are the light.

How's that for hacking some thoughts together with a stuffy head and a headache? I'm just getting over the flu...[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Wow, I already have pre made plans to take communion this Sunday too, with my Brother. I bought some red wine yesterday! I asked my Brother tonight if he wanted to take communion this sunday, he said yes. We don't really know the full extent of the spiritual ramifications of us taking communion, I suspect that it may be more significant than we've previously realized. But Jesus sure acted like it was important for us, so I'm all for it!

If praying over that bread and wine has spiritual significance, and then we ingest it...that sounds like something I want to do, lol. Yes, we probably have the Lord's DNA flowing through our veins. Maybe being born again involves getting a third strand of (Godly) DNA, for a three stranded cord is not easily broken.

Light is used as a metaphor in scripture, in places, but the Lord's light is no metaphor. All testimonial accounts say brighter than 100 suns, but not hard to look into. I guess it's the glory of the Lord. Isaiah's prophesying that the glory of the Lord will manifest itself upon believers in the last days, and people will be drawn to you because of it. Thats wild..

What it has to do with light is it is who we are and what we are made of, yet we don't live like it. You're right, we should be walking in this every day. We must allow our spirit to be dominant within us. Without us? lol. Meaning, on the outside.

 

[eddif]

Acts 8:34 KJV
And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?

We hear / read statements all the time that can be the spirit of Jesus speaking. On the surface we may ascribe the spoken message to ourselves, but in actuality the major part is moved to Jesus.

We (our flesh, mind, will, emotions, are created out of dust) the new inner man may start to show at our death.

Night scopes show our level of light transmission now. The light we promote is Jesus.

This all is probably beyond me. Hey I talk of: kidneys, liver, cerebellum. How strange is that?

The cerebellum speaks of the balance of
Romans 7:25

The kidneys of sin removal

The liver of power we have, but is a gift of God.

Most of what I speak of gives credit to Jesus Christ. If I were to ascribe this to myself it would send my actions towards Lucifer. I am made as an image, but Christ is the reality.

redneck
eddif