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Bible Study WELCOME TO A DEEP LOOK AT GENESIS

Day 128 Wednesday 8/27/14 Genesis 47:20-26 We Are Saved.

Gen 47:20 "So Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh; for the Egyptians sold every man his field, because the famine was sore upon them: and the land became Pharaoh's."

Joseph, being the wise man that he was, purchased all the land of Egypt with corn and grain. Their property became state property. Whenever the famine was to end, I suppose they would return to their homestead and continue to live out their lives. From that time on, they would pay rent for their houses and land. Everything went to Pharaoh. Because there is no mention that Joseph kept anything for himself, all went into the hands of Pharaoh, which must have made him very glad that putting this Hebrew in charge of all his business, he must have been so pleased with himself that he chose Joseph for that job.

Gen 47:21 "And as for the people, he removed them to the cities from one end of the border of Egypt even to the other end thereof."

In order to make it much easier for the people to obtain their Food (corn) all the people were asked to move into various cities and towns. Since Pharaoh owned all the cattle, donkeys, horses etc. the people had no means of transportation to and from Egypt to obtain their necessary provisions to last another year. This was considered a very wise move on Joseph's part says the Targum of Jonathan. Such moving brought the Egyptians much closer to each other which caused the people not only to know each other better, but also so that families could help other families....I don't see any mention that Jacob and his family had to move into a city. They apparently stayed in Goshen.

Gen 47:22 "Only the land of the priests bought he not: for the priests had a portion from Pharaoh, and did eat their portion which Pharaoh gave them; wherefore they sold not their land."

The Egyptian Priests were treated very differently than the general populous. They were a favored group of people to Pharaoh, he took care of their needs himself. I guess he thought that that would gain favor with his god, or god's. Their land did not go up on the chopping block.

Gen 47:23 "Then Joseph said unto the people, Behold, I have bought you this day and your land for Pharaoh: lo, here is seed for you, and ye shall sow the land."
Gen 47:24 "And it shall come to pass at the ingatherings, that ye shall give a fifth unto Pharaoh, and four parts shall be your own, for seed of the field, and for your food, and for them of your households, and for food for your little ones."

This is getting a little confusing to me because we just saw that Joseph had the people outside the towns, move into town. Now we see them going back to till the ground and plant. I'm not sure how this is happening. Perhaps someone can enlighten us to what is really happening.

Gen 47:24 "And it shall come to pass at the ingatherings, that ye shall give a fifth unto Pharaoh, and four parts shall be your own, for seed of the field, and for your food, and for them of your households, and for food for your little ones."
Gen 47:25 "And they said, Thou hast saved our lives: let us find favor in the sight of my lord, and we will be Pharaoh's servants."
Gen 47:26 "And Joseph made it a statute concerning the land of Egypt unto this day, that Pharaoh should have the fifth; only the land of the priests alone became not Pharaoh's."

It looks to me like this 1/5th and 1/4th is how they pay their rent to Pharaoh....It may seem unfair for Pharaoh to receive so much, but when we see the reaction of the people, we see a very grateful bunch of people. "Thou hast saved our lives." So this became the law of the land.
 
Chopper said:
Day 128 Wednesday 8/27/14 Genesis 47:20-26 We Are Saved.

Gen 47:20 "So Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh; for the Egyptians sold every man his field, because the famine was sore upon them: and the land became Pharaoh's."

Joseph, being the wise man that he was, purchased all the land of Egypt with corn and grain. Their property became state property. Whenever the famine was to end, I suppose they would return to their homestead and continue to live out their lives. From that time on, they would pay rent for their houses and land. Everything went to Pharaoh. Because there is no mention that Joseph kept anything for himself, all went into the hands of Pharaoh, which must have made him very glad that putting this Hebrew in charge of all his business, he must have been so pleased with himself that he chose Joseph for that job.

Gen 47:21 "And as for the people, he removed them to the cities from one end of the border of Egypt even to the other end thereof."

In order to make it much easier for the people to obtain their Food (corn) all the people were asked to move into various cities and towns. Since Pharaoh owned all the cattle, donkeys, horses etc. the people had no means of transportation to and from Egypt to obtain their necessary provisions to last another year. This was considered a very wise move on Joseph's part says the Targum of Jonathan. Such moving brought the Egyptians much closer to each other which caused the people not only to know each other better, but also so that families could help other families....I don't see any mention that Jacob and his family had to move into a city. They apparently stayed in Goshen.

Gen 47:22 "Only the land of the priests bought he not: for the priests had a portion from Pharaoh, and did eat their portion which Pharaoh gave them; wherefore they sold not their land."

The Egyptian Priests were treated very differently than the general populous. They were a favored group of people to Pharaoh, he took care of their needs himself. I guess he thought that that would gain favor with his god, or god's. Their land did not go up on the chopping block.

Gen 47:23 "Then Joseph said unto the people, Behold, I have bought you this day and your land for Pharaoh: lo, here is seed for you, and ye shall sow the land."
Gen 47:24 "And it shall come to pass at the ingatherings, that ye shall give a fifth unto Pharaoh, and four parts shall be your own, for seed of the field, and for your food, and for them of your households, and for food for your little ones."

This is getting a little confusing to me because we just saw that Joseph had the people outside the towns, move into town. Now we see them going back to till the ground and plant. I'm not sure how this is happening. Perhaps someone can enlighten us to what is really happening.

Gen 47:24 "And it shall come to pass at the ingatherings, that ye shall give a fifth unto Pharaoh, and four parts shall be your own, for seed of the field, and for your food, and for them of your households, and for food for your little ones."
Gen 47:25 "And they said, Thou hast saved our lives: let us find favor in the sight of my lord, and we will be Pharaoh's servants."
Gen 47:26 "And Joseph made it a statute concerning the land of Egypt unto this day, that Pharaoh should have the fifth; only the land of the priests alone became not Pharaoh's."

It looks to me like this 1/5th and 1/4th is how they pay their rent to Pharaoh....It may seem unfair for Pharaoh to receive so much, but when we see the reaction of the people, we see a very grateful bunch of people. "Thou hast saved our lives." So this became the law of the land.
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a seed doesn't need to be planted but once and it waits for water to begin to grow.
 
Day 129 Thursday 8/28/14 Genesis 47:27-31 Death Is Knocking.

Gen 47:27 And Israel dwelt in the land of Egypt, in the land of Goshen; and they gat them possessions therein, and were fruitful, and multiplied exceedingly.

Here we have Israel and his family living in Goshen where Pharaoh and Joseph had decided that they would settle during the time of their sojourning.... Very early in my return from Germany, I rented each dwelling that I needed while working in that area. It seemed with each new Job, came a new location and rent. I guess you could say, I was sojourning until I landed a job that I really liked and decided to make it my occupation. I finally started a printing business and purchased a nice house. My sojourn had ended until I got saved and went back to a sojourn. When I look back on this chapter of my life, I can sympathize with Jacob not having a permanent dwelling.

Our God is so wonderful to His children. Where ever He sends them, He blesses them. That is one way that they, and us, know that we are in His will for us.... When I entered Bible College, the Asst. Dean told me that if I was at College because God called me to it, He would meet all my needs. If I was there for my own reasons, I might not make it. That became a very real experience for me because all the expenses for me and my family were met when our income was less than my expenses. God miraculously sent in money, Just the right amount, to meet my family needs.

For Jacob/Israel and his family, they were being very fruitful in children, and possessions. YHWH had His arms around His people, and the rest of humanity could see that there was a difference between the Hebrews and the Egyptians. The records show that some historians criticize Joseph's handling of the affairs of Egypt, not realizing that Almighty God was at the controls.

Gen 47:28 "And Jacob lived in the land of Egypt seventeen years: so the days of Jacob, the years of his life, were a hundred forty and seven years."

Wow,:eek147 years old! That old boy has seen a lot of life.... My Mother lived 99 years. She saw life when it was very simple as compared with today. From horse & buggy to space ships. I used to ask her, "What was it like back then." She loved to tell me things that I never knew about, like how butter was made back then.

Gen 47:29 "And the time drew near that Israel must die: and he called his son Joseph, and said unto him, If now I have found favor in thy sight, put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh, and deal kindly and truly with me: bury me not, I pray thee, in Egypt."

There is an old saying, old age is creeping up on me." Jacob knew that his time to die and to be gathered to his people was coming very soon. He wanted to make sure that all his affairs were in order.

The statement that Jacob said to his son Joseph, "Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh." echo's what Abraham asked his servant to do when seeking a wife for his son. Jacob wanted to be buried with his family where they were buried, in the promised land, not where they were in Egypt.

Gen 47:30 "but when I sleep with my fathers, thou shalt carry me out of Egypt, and bury me in their burying-place. And he said, I will do as thou hast said."
Gen 47:31 "And he said, Swear unto me: and he sware unto him. And Israel bowed himself upon the bed's head."

His burying place must have been weighing heavy on Jacob's mind because he wanted his son Joseph to swear an oath to bury him in Canaan with his ancestors and first wife Rachel. Once Joseph convinced his father that his wishes would be carried out, it seems that he collapsed on the head board of his bed, out of breath.
 
We may die here on this earth ( our Goshen, the place God has seen fit to place us in) We can see the promise the promise of the promised land. Israel died in faith of that promise as we do....
 
reba said:
We may die here on this earth ( our Goshen, the place God has seen fit to place us in) We can see the promise the promise of the promised land. Israel died in faith of that promise as we do....
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I see Egypt more as a judgement, but that is a bit behind of the topic. its implied in this section. we should do exodus. the jews see that Egypt is judgement because Abraham failed to trust god with the famine and his seed paid the price. take note of the prophecy given to him and what is said and also when isreal goes into captivity. its nearly the same.
 
Day 130 Friday 8/29/14 Genesis 48:1-7 Your Sons Are Mine.

Gen_48:1-7
After these things. - After the arrangements concerning the funeral, recorded in the chapter. “Menasseh and Ephraim.” They seem to have accompanied their father from respectful affection to their aged relative. “Israel strengthened himself” - summoned his remaining powers for the interview, which was now to him an effort. “God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz.” From the terms of the blessing received it is evident that Jacob here refers to the last appearance of God to him at Bethel Gen_35:11. “And now thy sons.” After referring to the promise of a numerous offspring, and of a territory which they are to inherit, he assigns to each of the two sons of Joseph, who were born in Egypt, a place among his own sons, and a separate share in the promised land. In this way two shares fall to Joseph. “And thy issue.” We are not informed whether Joseph had any other sons. But all such are to be reckoned in the two tribes of which Ephraim and Menasseh are the heads. These young men are now at least twenty and nineteen years of age, as they were born before the famine commenced. Any subsequent issue that Joseph might have, would be counted among the generations of their children. “Rachel died upon me” - as a heavy affliction falling upon me. The presence of Joseph naturally leads the father’s thoughts to Rachel, the beloved mother of his beloved son, whose memory he honors in giving a double portion to her oldest son.

For a change in how I post this study, I thought I would post the study notes of Albert Barnes. Compliments of e-Sword.

As I view this passage of seven verses, I see great emphasis on the two sons of Joseph. Of the family of Jacob, his beloved wife Rachel gave birth to perhaps the most important son's Joseph and Benjamin. I don't see anyone in Scripture that most compares with our Savior Jesus the Christ than Joseph.

Also, as I view this section, I can feel the emotion of Jacob and Joseph at the mention of the death of Rachel. She was certainly loved very much by Jacob and her first son Joseph. What a loss that must have been to Jacob when she died giving birth to Benjamin. That left a huge hole in that favored by God Almighty family. Egypt was not the place for this family to remain or be buried when they died. In fact, my studies in the original manuscripts and where the most reliable and trustworthy had their origin, was not in sinful Egypt, but the Promised Land.

As jasonc says Egypt was a place of judgment, and affliction, thank God for the exodus!
 
I think that it is rather interesting that I believe that Abraham was in Egypt when God promised to make him a great nation. And then all the brothers and Jacob are reunited and Joseph's sons are blessed by Jacob, in Egypt.
 
Deborah13 said:
I think that it is rather interesting that I believe that Abraham was in Egypt when God promised to make him a great nation. And then all the brothers and Jacob are reunited and Joseph's sons are blessed by Jacob, in Egypt.
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Excellent point of interest, Deb. Quite interesting, indeed.
 
Day 131 Saturday 8/30/14 Genesis 48:8-22 A Patriarch's Blessing.

Gen 48:8 "And Israel beheld Joseph's sons, and said, Who are these?"
Gen 48:9 "And Joseph said unto his father, They are my sons, whom God hath given me here. And he said, Bring them, I pray thee, unto me, and I will bless them."

Through eyes that could hardly see, Jacob must have been aware of the presence of someone else in the room with Joseph....Who's here?
As any very proud father would say, "they are my son's." I remember my father recalling a story about when he was in college, and on the "Town Team" of baseball. He was, at that time, a great pitcher. One day when they were playing another town team, Dad pitched almost a no hitter. A baseball scout from the major leagues asked "who is that pitcher?" my grandfather was near the scout and said, "That's My Boy!!" with his chest stuck out. Yes? Dad's are very proud of their good boys.

Jacob desired to bless his grandsons.

Gen 48:11 "And Israel said unto Joseph, I had not thought to see thy face: and, lo, God hath let me see thy seed also."
Gen 48:12 "And Joseph brought them out from between his knees; and he bowed himself with his face to the earth."

I can just sense the grateful feeling of Jacob's heart toward God in allowing him not only to see his son Joseph before he died, but to see his grandsons? Wow!....I'm amused at the KJV wording, "Joseph brought them out from between his knees." Wow! Joseph must have been 12feet tall!! :lol. Apparently this is an old way of saying that they were very close to Joseph touching his knees. Some say that Joseph was sitting with his sons either sitting or straddling his knees. Joseph, in humble respect and honoring his father and great Patriarch bows to his father. It maybe that his sons had never seen their father bow to any man, it was meant to be a lesson to them as well as honoring his father.

Gen 48:13 "And Joseph took them both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel's left hand, and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel's right hand, and brought them near unto him."
Gen 48:14 "And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim's head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the first-born."
Gen 48:15 "And he blessed Joseph, and said, The God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God who hath fed me all my life long unto this day."
Gen 48:16 "the angel who hath redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth."

Here we have the old switch-er-oo. Jacob knows exactly what he is doing because he is being directed by God Almighty....Jacob is adopting Joseph's sons as his own sons for an allotment of land in the future.

Gen 48:17 "And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head."
Gen 48:18 "And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father; for this is the first-born; put thy right hand upon his head."
Gen 48:19 "And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it. He also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: howbeit his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations."

This is an important statement of Jacobs. Ephraim is destined to become the family line that Messiah comes from. Later on we will see a change and why.

Gen 48:20 "And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee will Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh."
Gen 48:21 "And Israel said unto Joseph, Behold, I die: but God will be with you, and bring you again unto the land of your fathers."
Gen 48:22 "Moreover I have given to thee one portion above thy brethren, which I took out of the hand of the Amorite with my sword and with my bow."

The great blessing on Joseph and his sons would be that they would return to Canaan to join with their ancestors in God's great plan to bring about the family line that would produce eventually Joseph and Mary in which the Messiah would come, God in man, the Incarnation.
 
This is an important statement of Jacobs. Ephraim is destined to become the family line that Messiah comes from. Later on we will see a change and why.
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How is that? Messiah comes from Judah as we shall see in the next chapter, if I may jump ahead a little. Ephraim was destined to become many nations is what I read in my bible.
 
follower said:
"Later on we will see a change and why."
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Well, just to point out something, Jacob later prophecies that these take place in the end times. It makes absolutely no sense to promise that to Ephraim and then switch it over to Judah. Otherwise, that would be a false prophecy. In addition, Christ's genealogy is clearly traced back to Pharez-Judah. We will also see that the magnificent blessings to Joseph, aka the birthright, was realized all thru the OT. This should prove interesting to what will come later on.
 
I've seen a lot in Scripture makes 'no sense' the way religious scholars and authorities and institutions present it.
it all makes sense when read and accepted as a 3 year old listening to Daddy and trusting Him.
Yhwh is Faithful and True and made everything simple. Man messes up all the time.(complicates things).
 
Deborah13 said:
I think that it is rather interesting that I believe that Abraham was in Egypt when God promised to make him a great nation. And then all the brothers and Jacob are reunited and Joseph's sons are blessed by Jacob, in Egypt.
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listen to what they say about joseph. its long but worth it.

they compare California to Egypt and aslo its implied that the torah was given to the Hebrews because of Egypt.
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/me...The-Personal-Parshah-Mikeitz-and-Chanukah.htm
 
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