What does Joyce Meyers teach?

[Jethro Bodine]

Maybe you can find his CD "Bloom Where You're Planted' on UTube or something. Listen to it, you'll see. You will change what you and others think he teaches about.

Here, I found it for you:

 

[WIP]

My pastor's salary doesn't go up or down depending on the level of offerings received by the congregation. I believe this is true of the vast majority of churches. Many people who are cynical of churches have this misconception. My impression if that Meyers and others perpetuate this misconception by their lifestyles, and it discredits the Church in that respect. That's one thing that doesn't sit well with me.

Our pastor insists on only being paid the typical starting salary for a pastor in the ELCA and he serves three country churches so we share that salary expense. Our church is independent but we still contract our pastor who chose to remain in the ELCA partly because one of our three parishes chose to remain and he wanted to continue the fight against corruption. A couple years ago, he decided to take care of his own health insurance. It was actually a little challenge to get him to allow the church to pay for the premiums. I have also noticed that when I receive the offering plates from him, I usually see a personal check has been placed into one of them before he hands them to me. I wonder where that comes from???? Actually, I think I know. He has also been resisting our attempt to give him a sabbatical. He says, "I don't think I work hard enough to justify it."

 

[WIP]

A little tidbit I forgot to mention is that he has served our three churches for the past 33 years so he definitely deserves more than a typical pastor's starting salary.

 

[Corn Pop]

You could not be any wronger:
http://www.joycemeyer.org/BroadcastHome.aspx?video=Ephesians_5_Bible_study_-_Part_2

Please, please at least view the link above.
And then when you find out she's actually a well grounded Bible teacher (not a pastor) you may well dive into her other videos, and you will surely change what you think she teaches.

I was going to post a video but it was the full service I dont know if its copyright, but anyhow, it was the first random video I choose to watch of Joyce, she boasts for 5 mins then picks up the bible, then keeps boasting, then opens the bible why boasting, then keeps boasting, then closes the bible why boasting and then keeps boasting. Not one single verse was read the entire service, yet she had the scriptures, opened the scriptures, then closed the scriptures. She talked over the scriptures. No scripture even got a word in. She was just on her own Hallelujah buzz.

She might be positive and say encouraging things, i give her credit for that, but, I just don't think she is annointed or a solid bible teacher.

 

[Willie T]

I was going to post a video but it was the full service I dont know if its copyright, but anyhow, it was the first random video I choose to watch of Joyce, she boasts for 5 mins then picks up the bible, then keeps boasting, then opens the bible why boasting, then keeps boasting, then closes the bible why boasting and then keeps boasting. Not one single verse was read the entire service, yet she had the scriptures, opened the scriptures, then closed the scriptures. She talked over the scriptures. No scripture even got a word in.

She might be positive and say encouraging things, i give her credit for that, but, I just don't think she is annointed or a solid bible teacher.

So, you had the video, but decided your opinion would be more accurate?

 

[Corn Pop]

So, you had the video, but decided your opinion would be more accurate?

I just go on what i see and hear.

As i said i give her credit for some things, im not being all negative just being honest my opinion. She is encouraging and that's great.

 

[Corn Pop]

I just stay vigilant because Jesus said many will come in the name of Jesus saying they are annointed. Every single Pastor claims to be annointed in the name of Jesus otherwise they would not be preaching to a flock. I think Joel in a interview once had said he doesn't know if he is annointed, I mean, thats being honest, he doesn't exactly preach the gospel.

To speak to crowds of 30,000 is a important role, one surely should be a true annointed teacher of the scriptures to fullfill that duty. Jesus only spoke to a crowd of 5000. But many are even in the millions if you add the TV and all views and followers. There is really no room for error.

Although there intentions might be good they can easy lead people off path. I think that's what Jesus was talking about as well as he he did say wolfs who will decieve.

 

[ezra]

might i say even if i might not .. having been a pastor my first two churches i was paid once a month love offering maybe $30.00 . small churches.granted some preach for money. but not all . paying a pastor is bible ! so many love to criticize the pastor barbecue him over lunch. then you have those who think they are the pastor boss. your pastor is the spiritual leader and works with other leaders in the church . the pastor is a servant. having said not to mention the spiritual warfare .

prepare a message pray over it then get up to deliver it. suddenly your preaching to the valley of dry bones ! i think paul said it best though we have ten thousand teachers. we have very few fathers in the Lord. joyce myers does not profess to be a pastor only a teacher. i use to listen to her mainly before i took the call. she would open up her program and say if GOD is calling you to do something you need to be doing it.

i heard her give testimony of how she was molested by her father. later on in years GOD spoke to her to get him a house and take care of him. she argued but GOD won. while i was ok with her for years when she had the plastic surgery . that turned me off. i will let God judge her. osteen turns me off his lack of pushing salvation being set free.. yes we all have our t. preachers we like to roast. if have a pastor who tries to feed the flock tries to go above and beyond the call. . support them where you can instead of complaining, its not a easy job try it :amen

 

[reba]

Amen says this PK

 

[JohnDB]

Davids the man. Lol.

Are you talking about David (did-you-know-that?) Jeremiah?

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I just go on what i see and hear.

Five minutes out of thousands and thousands of hours of teaching is not how you judge a teacher.
She's Full Gospel. They're ALL about the scriptures. I stand by what I frequently say that the Full Gospel teachers know the Bible better than anybody. They have better, deeper insights into the scriptures.

Anybody who's watched her programs knows her teachings are based on references to scripture upon scripture. She's all about the Bible. Anybody who says she isn't simply doesn't watch her.

I think Joel in a interview once had said he doesn't know if he is annointed, I mean, thats being honest, he doesn't exactly preach the gospel.

Right, he's a teacher, not a preacher.
His ministry is to the church, not to the lost. He's not an evangelist.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I think Joel in a interview once had said he doesn't know if he is annointed, I mean, thats being honest

It's a 'no win'. He would be terribly attacked for having the audacity to say he was anointed, but ridiculed for saying he doesn't know if he is. He should just leave the subject alone and let the individual decide in their own heart and mind. If they think he is they will tune in and maybe even support him if they have been helped and encouraged by his ministry.

I cringe whenever I hear people in forums tell us about how gifted they are. Whether it's true or not is not the point. Feeling they have to tell us is the bothersome part. We'll know if they are or not even if they say nothing either way.

 

[Corn Pop]

Five minutes out of thousands and thousands of hours of teaching is not how you judge a teacher.
She's Full Gospel. They're ALL about the scriptures. I stand by what I frequently say that the Full Gospel teachers know the Bible better than anybody. They have better, deeper insights into the scriptures.

Anybody who's watched her programs knows her teachings are based on references to scripture upon scripture. She's all about the Bible. Anybody who says she isn't simply doesn't watch her.


Right, he's a teacher, not a preacher.
His ministry is to the church, not to the lost. He's not an evangelist.

Ok, what i will do is watch a few of her church services and note how many times she references core gospel doctrine.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Here, I found it for you:

I'm curious what criticism people here have regarding this teaching.

Years ago in a forum I posted verbatim from the video and knocked down argument after argument people were leveling against him (he does this, he doesn't do that...). I got thoroughly roasted. Only one person came to my defense in the matter of what Joel ACTUALLY teaches.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Ok, what i will do is watch a few of her church services and note how many times she references core gospel doctrine to her flock.

Here's a long list to choose from: http://www.joycemeyer.org/BroadcastHome.aspx
I've been watching the Ephesians series.

 

[Corn Pop]

Today's offer. Gods greatest gifts. $16

No wonder she has a private jet, she sells God's gifts.

 

[Free]

The thinking is, if they had a similar job and responsibility for running a big organization in a secular setting they would be paid large CEO salaries.

While I don't necessarily agree with the thinking from a spiritual point of view I understand the argument. We don't condemn honest, hard working CEO's for being worth thousands and thousands of dollars a year. The corrupt ones, yes, we do, of course. But we all know here in America if you get the big job and you earned it you deserve the big bucks that go with it. That's the thinking behind TV teachers giving themselves big bucks.

And therein lies the problem--they treat God's church like a business.

 

[Corn Pop]

Today's offer. Gods greatest gifts. $16

No wonder she has a private jet, she sells God's gifts.

Now when Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money, saying, “Give me this power also, so that anyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.” But Peter said to him, “May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money! You have neither part nor lot in this matter, for your heart is not right before God. Repent.

 

[Corn Pop]

• Then Jesus went into the temple of God and drove out all those who bought and sold in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who sold doves. And He said to them, “It is written, My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you have made it a den of thieves.’ ”

 

[Jethro Bodine]

And therein lies the problem--they treat God's church like a business.

It IS a business. It's impossible to run a church or ministry without considering it a business.
Does that mean leadership should get corporate salaries? No, of course. What it means is there is money being exchanged and by law, and common sense, you have to consider it a business. Popular ministries with big donations and big expenses (air time, equipment, staff, etc.) have to deal with all that in a business sense. So it is a problem that the church is a business, but it has to be that way.

I personally am for the small, segmented church--40, 60, maybe 80 people. But since we don't have that, and what we Protesters do have is not unified (don't get me started, lol) thank God the likes of Pat Robertson was one of the few televangelists who bought the more expensive, non religious broadcast time slots so that I, this non-religious lost soul, could hear the gospel without purposely looking for it (most TV ministries back then could only afford the late, late night/ early, early morning, cheaper time slots when most folk are sleeping).