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What does Joyce Meyers teach?

Its amazing all the top boarders members are all Meyers. President Meyer, Vice President Meyer, CEO Meyer and the other CEO Meyer.

I think Joels brother is also on the board of directors. Its someone Osteen from lakewood.
 
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I never seen so many evil spirits enter so many people in one sitting.

 
Free said:
No, it is not a business and should not be that way. Churches are charitable organizations. Businesses sell a service or product for the purpose of making a profit, and that is what many of those churches are doing by trying to sell God's blessings. It is utterly revolting how much some of those "pastors" get paid.
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You do realize that a church in america needs a business license to exist and also own property and schools and nurseries.

I will have post a few links of one's here u know have the above .it will be easy
 
kiwidan said:
Maybe I dont know. It sure looks like a staged show, if it is real thats some serious demonic activity.
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It is staged; there may be a few non-actors in there caught up in the emotionalism.
In the 60' & 70's the big thing was 'healing'.....the "preacher" would reach out and tap a person on the head and shout 'you are healed' and they would fall back into the waiting arms of henchmen.....but this only happened on Sunday evening during primetime when he could make the most money by begging for donations. You don't see too much of that anymore......
 
Free said:
No, it is not a business and should not be that way. Churches are charitable organizations.
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Churches have to register as a 403, or something like that.
They most certainly are a business (not that I like that). They have income, employees, paydays, benefits, etc. and have to be administered just like a business. Does that mean Joyce and others have to have a 500k salary every year? No, of course not. Her salary has nothing to do with the fact that the church is indeed a business. You can pay her 30k a year and it's still a business.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
Churches have to register as a 403, or something like that.
They most certainly are a business (not that I like that). They have income, employees, paydays, benefits, etc. and have to be administered just like a business. Does that mean Joyce and others have to have a 500k salary every year? No, of course not. Her salary has nothing to do with the fact that the church is indeed a business. You can pay her 30k a year and it's still a business.
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They are technically a non-profit organisation, not a business. They do not seek to make a profit and they do not have shareholders.

Of course, in many ways they operate like a business given they pay staff wages and buy equipment etc. But that just means they have to operate a budget. So do households. Households also need to pay staff when they get a contractor in to build a deck or build an extension on the house.

Churches do not gain the vast majority of their income from goods or services sold, but by donations. They are not businesses, and if we treat them as businesses we risk distorting the gospel and how we are portrayed to the world. That is why lots of these televangelists like Joyce Meyers and Joel Osteen fail the church.
 
at 70 and raised in church i have seen the real and fake... God can and does still heal in the miracle way.... I believe all healing, miracle or medical is from God...
I have seen/heard the real and fake tongues... and all that goes with that...
Seen churches split over following the sensational 'new thing '
Know and known of preachers who are good guys and one who are creeps...
Seen how man corrupts spiritual power
Watched men grow and become more and more Christlike..
We are the church we are the body of believers ,,, some of us are kooks yet believers ... some follow the intellectual side of Scripture
We need/should celebrate our differences ... be thankful we are not expected to be alike..
having family, some are hard core reformers some Pentecostal, some Catholic they all love the Lord.
 
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Eora said:
They are technically a non-profit organisation, not a business. They do not seek to make a profit and they do not have shareholders.

Of course, in many ways they operate like a business given they pay staff wages and buy equipment etc. But that just means they have to operate a budget. So do households. Households also need to pay staff when they get a contractor in to build a deck or build an extension on the house.

Churches do not gain the vast majority of their income from goods or services sold, but by donations. They are not businesses, and if we treat them as businesses we risk distorting the gospel and how we are portrayed to the world. That is why lots of these televangelists like Joyce Meyers and Joel Osteen fail the church.
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:goodpost
 
civilwarbuff said:
It is staged; there may be a few non-actors in there caught up in the emotionalism.
In the 60' & 70's the big thing was 'healing'.....the "preacher" would reach out and tap a person on the head and shout 'you are healed' and they would fall back into the waiting arms of henchmen.....but this only happened on Sunday evening during primetime when he could make the most money by begging for donations. You don't see too much of that anymore......
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That's too bad, we do..... most any day of the week.
 
Most women I know prefer Beth Moore. But I don't know much about her either. Frankly I don't think a woman should be teaching a man when it comes to preaching. I want testosterone behind it. Not that I can't learn from the women, I can and do. But not as a lead pastor or anything like that. I don't like women in locker rooms either. Men are men.
 
I remember when Iverna Tompkins was on the charismatic circuit...
 
Eora said:
They are technically a non-profit organisation, not a business. They do not seek to make a profit and they do not have shareholders.

Of course, in many ways they operate like a business given they pay staff wages and buy equipment etc. But that just means they have to operate a budget. So do households. Households also need to pay staff when they get a contractor in to build a deck or build an extension on the house.

Churches do not gain the vast majority of their income from goods or services sold, but by donations. They are not businesses, and if we treat them as businesses we risk distorting the gospel and how we are portrayed to the world. That is why lots of these televangelists like Joyce Meyers and Joel Osteen fail the church.
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Must not have been on any church boards.

A non profit must run in the black.they can't use the profits like a corp does but they can reinvest the extra money or save it.

A 503a,b,c allows this.
 
Nathan said:
2Pe 3:14-18
Therefore, beloved, since you are waiting for these, be diligent to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace.
And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him,
as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
I will not judge Mrs Meyers on her condition with God. But we can judge the words she 'preaches', and we should judge them according to the Bible.
For the most part, what she says is true. However, she will every now and again throw in something that is completely false. I do not know if this is just a 'mistake', but it happens regularly.
This is just one example, there are plenty more.
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OK.
I just listened to the audio one time through. (So I haven't "studied" what she said.)
She was making the point that Christians are "gods" in the manner that Jesus asked the Jews if they had not read that the scripture says, "you are gods." (Jhn 10:34)
Then she went on to reference the OT texts

Psa 82:6 I say, "You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you;
Isa 41:23 Tell us what is to come hereafter, that we may know that you are gods; do good, or do harm, that we may be dismayed and terrified.

So I think she did a pretty good job of explaining what she meant and I don't have a problem with it.

In fact, I would add another couple of verses: Eph 5:30-33.
"... we are members of his body. "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh." This mystery is a profound one, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church;"

Here Paul says we (the Church) are "one flesh" with Christ in the manner symbolized by the marriage of a man and woman who become "one flesh."

Jesus is God incarnate.
Jesus is God in essence. (That's the kind of "thing" <sorry, I wanted a really general word> Jesus is)
We are creatures in essence. (We are created "things.")
By being "one flesh" with Christ's in His body (the human body of God incarnate) we become "gods by grace."
By grace, we become what He is by nature.
We partake of the divine nature. (2 Peter 1:4)

That is not to be confused with "becoming God."
We are creatures in essence and cannot change to be God in essence.
We can never "become God."
Neither is it to be confused with the pagan/Mormon idea of God as a glorified man who became a god by his striving for perfection.
And we don't become God by being absorbed into God in a Hindu manner and we aren't "part of" God in a pantheist manner.

So, did I just confuse everyone?

iakov the fool
 
She doesn't have to defend her spending habits she said because "there's no need for us to apologize for being blessed"

Material gifts but no spiritual gifts. Blessed only with the riches of the world. What a nice giving god she serves. Somehow her god doesn't seem to bless the other 99.99% of the church with private jets and all there family with million dollar homes payed for by the ministry.

And all the things the ministry owns is suppose to be the churches, but i doubt if a member asked to borrow the church mercedez benz for a day as there car broke down they wouldn't let them. Its only for the important people.
 
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