Jethro Bodine
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Oscar is pretty cool.Its amazing all the top boarders members are all Meyers. President Meyer, Vice President Meyer, CEO Meyer and the other CEO Meyer.
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Oscar is pretty cool.Its amazing all the top boarders members are all Meyers. President Meyer, Vice President Meyer, CEO Meyer and the other CEO Meyer.
Oscar is pretty cool.
Well, since I have heard her plainly and openly state she does sin, I would have to assume what she is talking about there is that she is not a person who deliberately lives a life of sin.These people sneak in false teachings with the truth. Paul would not have needed to waste his time going on about fighting sin if this was the truth. The Apostle Paul suffered for that.
And John says
"If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."
Well, since I have heard her plainly and openly state she does sin, I would have to assume what she is talking about there is that she is not a person who deliberately lives a life of sin.
Well, I've probably listened to close to 100 hours of her teaching. That informs me much more of what she truly teaches than your selectively edited 30 second clip. Don't you ever ask yourself why these Witch-Hunters always post tiny little clips that are seldom more than a few seconds long? I suspect it is because listening any longer would probably give the real story, and ruin their attempt at slandering the person.Well that is a very unstable teacher. Maybe she repented of that false teaching thats great.
You can't assume. She specifically said in that clip she is not a sinner, and is not a sinner anymore. She is saying she has no sin. Someone who says they are not a sinner and was a sinner but not anymore is saying they have no sin. Listen to it again, she contradicts John.
If i say I am not a sinner I am saying I do not have sin because im not a sinner, I am now sinless in the flesh.
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."
i can agree with you to some degree and i dont need to defend joyce meyers. as i stated early on i quit listening to her when she done the face lift. i will just let God judge her .her works will either stand through the refiners fire .or burn up in the fiery furnaceI probably read 100 chapters on the Apostles teachings yesterday. I dont think anyone can teach more than the Teachers who are already in the scriptures, and the only thing that can come from outside is possible error in teaching.
As i said Joyce is an encouraging teacher.
But we have people like Paul and Peter and John who talk through the scriptures and cant forget the greatest Jesus. These teachers only repeats the teachings that possibly can be taken out of context and go on about other stuff all entertainment. Most of it is entertainment. There entertainers.
The devil this, the devil that, and i did this, and i did that, and i once knew a man.
Anyhow myself, I don't trust anyone where a husband a wife run a ministry and combined they take over a million a year from the ministry in salary. Thats greed, and they try justify it in the conscience they dont follow the Spirit.
130000 grand for a mercedes?The main thing is staying humble. If someone has a business and buys a new mercedes benz that is there business, but a Church is not a business and ministry no matter how much it recieves should stay humble, the meyer's have a $130,000 mercedes benz payed for by the ministry, why can't they just be humble and purchase a standard nice new car for $30,000, why does it have to be a brand new $130,000 mercedes benz with God's money. No humble.
130000 grand for a mercedes?
10 years ago I could have bought a mercedes for 30 grand.Mercedes are expensive but nit thar high.that's Aston Martin ,rolls royce,lambourghinis.
https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/class/class-E/bodystyle-SDN
Starting at 53,000 grand.I'm sure these can get up to 10000 grand but as you can see the e class is a base model.
By a 4 x4 here for a 50 grand it's not unusual, shoot a tacoma, which I have and a used one can be up to 40 grand.
I found one, not all mercedes are priced that high but one there .not seen here but I will look.funny,mercedes are the common car in Germany as is bmw.import fees.I know soldiers getting bmws for less then 20 grand and werent high ranking.an sgt then didn't make over 20 grand a year.Mercedes get right up there. The AMG-S65 is about 250K. A few mercedes are worth well over 100k. Over 100K is top range.
I found one, not all mercedes are priced that high but one there .not seen here but I will look.funny,mercedes are the common car in Germany as is bmw.import fees.I know soldiers getting bmws for less then 20 grand and werent high ranking.an sgt then didn't make over 20 grand a year.