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What Is Baptism?

Allen Wynne said:
And how long has this been going on?
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Since the first century. Paul met some of these folks. They had believed in the teaching of repentance, and subsequently been baptized in water(I'm sure). They did know about the teaching of Christ yet. So Paul 'baptized' them in the name of Jesus and they received the Holy Spirit.

Paul didn't just moved on, saying as long as you were baptized in water, eventually you will understand. Instead he took the time to teach them. Whether they were baptized in water again after this I have no idea. But I do know that when it says Paul baptized them in the name of the Lord Jesus, this is speaking about teaching.

Acts 19:5 (ESV) 5 On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Acts 19:6 (ESV) 6 And when Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking in tongues and prophesying.

I honestly and truly believe that when people came to faith, and were fully taught, that water baptism always followed. I don't think there was a question of if they should then be baptized in water, but more of a desire on their part to show they understood and believed.

Water baptism is a genuine sign of faith. What's happened now is it's turned into an object of faith, instead of it being the fruit of faith. John wouldn't even baptize the Pharisees that came because he knew they had not understood.
 
Allen Wynne said:
And how long has this been going on?
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it seems my post said nothing worth considering or responding to - here we have those who do not really want the answer or the task of praising God for what HE has done especially for Christians as followers of the way i.e. His son by providing a passport and password - btw just remember and recall that Jesus said we must become as little children to enter for it is extremely difficult if not impossible for adults to do so - hence the importance of baptism and confirmation preferably in that order as stated[Isa.40:21] - twinc
 
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twinc said:
it seems my post said nothing worth considering or responding to - here we have those who do not really want the answer or the task of praising God for what HE has done especially for Christians as followers of the way i.e. His son by providing a passport and password - btw just remember and recall that Jesus said we must become as little children to enter for it is extremely difficult if not impossible for adults to do so - hence the importance of baptism and confirmation preferably in that order as stated - twinc
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I think no one responds to your posts because they seem very cryptic. Maybe it's a language barrier? But sometimes you seem to speak very clearly.

I think water baptism is a wonderful way of praising God for what He has done. That's what it should be. That's why Jesus was baptized. To fulfill all righteousness. He was praising God, submitting Himself under the Fathers authority - He knew this to be true inside, but He needed to do it to show it to those around.
 
twinc said:
it seems my post said nothing worth considering or responding to - here we have those who do not really want the answer or the task of praising God for what HE has done especially for Christians as followers of the way i.e. His son by providing a passport and password - btw just remember and recall that Jesus said we must become as little children to enter for it is extremely difficult if not impossible for adults to do so - hence the importance of baptism and confirmation preferably in that order as stated[Isa.40:21] - twinc
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I found your post to be a bit bizarre.
I wouldn't know how to answer it.
 
twinc said:
it seems my post said nothing worth considering or responding to - here we have those who do not really want the answer or the task of praising God for what HE has done especially for Christians as followers of the way i.e. His son by providing a passport and password - btw just remember and recall that Jesus said we must become as little children to enter for it is extremely difficult if not impossible for adults to do so - hence the importance of baptism and confirmation preferably in that order as stated[Isa.40:21] - twinc
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Hi twinC
I saw your post and I plan to answer it.
So busy for Easter right now.
How about baptism as a method of becoming members of God's family?
Is that taken for granted maybe?
Is everyone who is baptised a member of God's family?
OR
Do we have to accept that baptism at some point and really understand it??
 
wondering said:
Hi twinC
I saw your post and I plan to answer it.
So busy for Easter right now.
How about baptism as a method of becoming members of God's family?
Is that taken for granted maybe?
Is everyone who is baptised a member of God's family?
OR
Do we have to accept that baptism at some point and really understand it??
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it was once simply simply believed by some that the water washed away the mark of original sin 666.and the H/S replaced it with 777 the mark of Christ and on the security check out we will be put on the flight to heaven where it will register on arrival and we will be asked for the password which we will remember from when we sat transfixed and listened and believed as little Christian children - twinc - hope this helps
 
twinc said:
it was once simply simply believed by some that the water washed away the mark of original sin 666.and the H/S replaced it with 777 the mark of Christ and on the security check out we will be put on the flight to heaven where it will register on arrival and we will be asked for the password which we will remember from when we sat transfixed and listened and believed as little Christian children - twinc - hope this helps
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It is easy to tell tales as long as you never use scripture but they are still lies.
 
twinc said:
it was once simply simply believed by some that the water washed away the mark of original sin 666.and the H/S replaced it with 777 the mark of Christ and on the security check out we will be put on the flight to heaven where it will register on arrival and we will be asked for the password which we will remember from when we sat transfixed and listened and believed as little Christian children - twinc - hope this helps
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and can we have Maypo for breakfast?
 
twinc said:
it was once simply simply believed by some that the water washed away the mark of original sin 666.and the H/S replaced it with 777 the mark of Christ and on the security check out we will be put on the flight to heaven where it will register on arrival and we will be asked for the password which we will remember from when we sat transfixed and listened and believed as little Christian children - twinc - hope this helps
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But this is what I was asking...

What if we have the passport,
But not the password?
 
twinc said:
be assured you are a liar- but this is forgiveable but blasphemy is not - make sure you have not blasphemed - twinc
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twinc twinc you are under my control

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Now go jump off a bridge

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OzSpen said:
Jim,

Even with the ECF, one still has to be discerning with their doctrine. Remember Valentinus, Marcion, the Monophysites, and Arius?

Oz
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Actually, I don't have to be very discerning with those fellows since they were all deemed heretics so I don't bother with anything that they might have written. Problem solved. :wink

jim
 
Nathan said:
Ok, so some have to do some things, others get 'passes', what's next? :)
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That's not what I said at all.
Why do you insist on twisting what I post?
Only one person that I am aware of was not baptized and that was because he was nailed to a cross and would be dead very soon so he wasn't able to be baptized.
Nathan said:
No, I can't change my mind. Baptism is about being taught and it's about representing that understanding by submersion in water.
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Ah! Then you know better than Paul and the very early church who were taught by the apostles.
Amazing!
 
twinc said:
don't worry be assured that Jesus has made sure you will remember the password - just make sure you still have the passport - twinc
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Where in scripture is this password. That is where you added to the Word of God, and that is the unforgivable sin. My bank account needs a password, my account needs a password, and my computer needs a password, but being a citizen of Heaven, living the natural life, as an example for others to see and to be inspired by. A liar? I was and you are, except you can show us where the need of this password is found in scripture.

I resisted that inflammatory word and then you throw it like Satan's spear?
 
wondering said:
2. The three different types of baptism.
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The three different Baptism's in the Bible are:

  1. We are baptized into Christ, by the Spirit.
  2. A disciple baptizes us in water.
  3. Jesus baptizes us with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Paul teaches us this from the old testament types.

Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 1 Corinthians 10:1-2

  1. baptized into Moses - Into Christ
  2. in the cloud - the Holy Spirit
  3. in the sea - Water


Remember the cloud [by day] was a fire [by night].

The the Holy Spirit and fire is one baptism, not two.




JLB
 
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