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What is Reformed Theology?

One day I just decided to love Jesus all by my lonesome .How ? Because I was never truly depraved ,I can decide how my heart will be perfected as I can do that all by my lonesome.

My works alone will save me because my faith is so that !

So says some .

Quite the opposite as I can easily ponder my history of local homes ,survey ,family lineage


For example lots of Gifford pioneer in that photo .

Yet the word of God in church and worship songs I have to focus hard ,prayer too

So which is it ? We naturally need to train our hearts or is it God drawing us?

I have been saved nearly thirty years .looking back I can't see that im a Holy person that doesn't need the grace offered .in fact I find that I'm very vile .the more I learn from the bible .I'm very sin fil and enjoy sin ! I need to repent
I recommend the new book Live Jesus' Risen Life: A Practical Colossians Guide (Amazon).
 
Abraham was justifired by Faith.
Romans 4:3.....
"For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”

And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.”


Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. James 2:21-23

Are you familiar with the principle of faith that James and Paul are teaching?

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26

Faith requires a certain thing to make it complete. Do you understand what that is?
  • Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect?



JLB
 
JLB, you're using a false argument. The question is not whether Scripture uses those phrases but whether those phrases present biblical truth. In your opinion, why don't they?

If a person must go outside of scripture, to find "biblical truth" then don't you think their approach is flawed?

The question would be then, why do you seek to find "biblical truth" beyond what the scriptures themselves teach?

Jesus has established "His Doctrine" to His disciples to teach.

His disciples teach "His Doctrine".

There is a very serious warning in scripture about transgressing (going beyond) the Doctrine of Christ.

Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 2 John 1:9
 
And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.”


Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. James 2:21-23

Are you familiar with the principle of faith that James and Paul are teaching?

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26

Faith requires a certain thing to make it complete. Do you understand what that is?
  • Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect?



JLB
Yes I am.

Paul and James are in agreement, and there is NO conflict.
James is not arguing against the doctrine of salvation by faith alone and neither is he saying that justification is by works.

James argues against a salvation that is alone, a salvation devoid of good works and obedience to God’s Word. James’s point is that we demonstrate our faith by what we do (James 2:18).

In other words, we DO good works because we are saved.....not to be saved but because we are saved.
 
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