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What is the best thing to do when you hate someone?

Who Me said:
Yes Jesus ,ovedusfirst, but he does not forgive those who do not repent.
Neither do we.
Like 17:3 te.ls us that.but we are to.d to pray for those who hate us.
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Again .

Harbor no hatred .

So if my grandfather who is dead ,never and he didn't ,apologize for his crude ways of saying things and verbal abuse to his son and I also got it.

I can forever hold a grudge ?
I didn't see him for oh three years over that


See that's the point .how does a punk idiot kid as I was challenge a war vet who might have went to far and had failings on that?

Grandpa calling me an idiot is mean it hurts?

Time came I saw what he tried to say.yes he did belittle my dad,called him overweight,I front of us but we'll dad was overweight and also cursed him over wearing sandals in the house despite his rules.

Sometimes stepping back and praying makes one see it better .I forgive my grandpa first .it wasn't worth it .he begged my dad about seeing me .

Being a vet I understand him more looking back as I attained rank and saw his PTSD as I got it.i also learned he wasn't so mean,my dad has that dual nature of soft and a bark .

Not saying it was right but I see them as God shows me .

Rather then begrudge my parents and grandparents failures I respect and honor them as they did do alot .

Sure parents have flaws .we all do .the choice is not to follow that pattern and to be willing and wise enough to see that the old man wasn't so ignorant after all.

I hated my dad and grandpa for a season . I got saved and I began to see I was an idiot !
 
Who Me said:
Well if you make it up as you go along as you do no.
If you follow the bible and not just those bits that you like, it is more involved.
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I can't imagine God ever telling us to hold a grudge or hate someone.
I sure never saw Jesus act that way.
Nor Stephen, nor Paul.
Fact is, Jesus said we are to love God with all our strength, and love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
How can we love anyone we won't forgive? (Rhetorical question)
 
IamBee said:
Long story short, I had a lot of people abuse and lie to me as a child and young adult. Now that I'm older and wiser, I can better reflect on my childhood and my 20s.

Eversince I came to understand how I was mistreated, I have had a lot of venom inside me. I feel like I could actually kill them if I saw them again.
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I believe this is why our Savior sweat blood in the garden of Gethsemane. I think he was fighting off a temptation from satan to kill those coming to arrest him. I'm sure I would have killed them.
In fact, if I came to visit my creation and they spit on me?.....I'd pull their tonhues out of their heads.
I'm so thankful God didn't pull my tongue out. Thanks for your mercy Lord.
I'm very sorry for what happened to you IamBee.
 
Hopeful said:
I can't imagine God ever telling us to hold a grudge or hate someone.
I sure never saw Jesus act that way.
Nor Stephen, nor Paul.
Fact is, Jesus said we are to love God with all our strength, and love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
How can we love anyone we won't forgive? (Rhetorical question)
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Please show me where I have said anything about holding a grudge or hating someone who has offended one?
 
Who Me said:
Please show me where I have said anything about holding a grudge or hating someone who has offended one?
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I don't remember if it was you or someone else who espouses a doctrine of non-forgiveness without repentance.
But we can forgive someone who hurts us even if we never see of hear from them again.
If we don't forgive, we are holding on to hate: a grudge.
 
Hopeful said:
I don't remember if it was you or someone else who espouses a doctrine of non-forgiveness without repentance.
But we can forgive someone who hurts us even if we never see of hear from them again.
If we don't forgive, we are holding on to hate: a grudge.
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You either have not read what I've written or you don't understand what I've written.

Let me repeat it yet again.

Someone hurts you, in your pain, anger etc you do not have to make feelings of forgiveness, but like Jesus on the cross, you turn to God and tell him about what happened, who has acted against you, how you feel about it and you hand it All over to God to deal with your offender and you.
Then you pray intelligently for the good of that person.

There is no pretence, no sickly christian grin, hiding one's hurt, just brutal honesty with God.
God in his time and his mercy will grant one the ability to let go of one's feelings about the horrible incident and those who abused and hurt one.
As you pray regularly for them, one slowly Comes to love those who hated you.


This is far more radical than feeling one has forgiven and it is all biblical, unlike saying Christians must forgive, which is an abuse of the Bible.
 
Who Me said:
You either have not read what I've written or you don't understand what I've written.
Let me repeat it yet again.
Someone hurts you, in your pain, anger etc you do not have to make feelings of forgiveness, but like Jesus on the cross, you turn to God and tell him about what happened, who has acted against you, how you feel about it and you hand it All over to God to deal with your offender and you.
Then you pray intelligently for the good of that person.
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If you "pray intelligently for the good of that person", it seems forgiveness has already been granted.
Who Me said:
There is no pretence, no sickly christian grin, hiding one's hurt, just brutal honesty with God.
God in his time and his mercy will grant one the ability to let go of one's feelings about the horrible incident and those who abused and hurt one.
As you pray regularly for them, one slowly Comes to love those who hated you.
This is far more radical than feeling one has forgiven and it is all biblical, unlike saying Christians must forgive, which is an abuse of the Bible.
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It is clear from scripture that if we don't forgive, we will not be forgiven.
Luke 6:37..."Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:"
Matt 6:14-15..."For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."
 
Who Me said:
If they have repented and we won't forgive then yes.
But no repentance no need for forgiveness.
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I myself can no longer carry the hate and vengeance I once felt for those who have hurt me.
Continued hate allows them to dwell in my mind rent-free.
I also hope the folks I have hurt can forgive me just as God has forgiven me.
I never repented of my thefts and the harm I committed to them, as I never knew the names of most of them.

If those who have hurt you, and never told you they are sorry, have turned to Christ later in their lives, how can you continue to not forgive someone God has forgiven?
 
Hopeful said:
Why would you pray for anyone you have not forgiven?
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So you don't pray for people you don't know, who have done nothing to you but who persecute your brothers and sisters.
North Korean concentration camp guards, alquida, iris, Islam authorities and police around the world the list of people you should be praying for is almost endless.


One does not have to like, or have forgiven someone to pray for them.

Do you honestly think Stephen had loving thoughts in his mind as he was bludgeoned to death by a barrage of stones!
He prayed Father forgive them. He did not say I forgive them.
 
Hopeful said:
those who have hurt you, and never told you they are sorry, have turned to Christ later in their lives, how can you continue to not forgive someone God has forgiven?
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You show that you do not understand what I have been writing.

One prays to God asking him to deal with those who have hurt you and to deal with your feelings.
Years later you learn that became Christian, you may never meet them in this life.
Yet you assume that God will only deal with those who hurt you, that he won't deal with your feelings about it or about them.

You have written about people hurting you.
Be honest, how would you respond if a few days after the event someone told you that you Must forgive them.
Would you be pleased or cross at the lack of sensitivity and understanding shown.
 
Who Me said:
So you don't pray for people you don't know, who have done nothing to you but who persecute your brothers and sisters.
North Korean concentration camp guards, alquida, iris, Islam authorities and police around the world the list of people you should be praying for is almost endless.
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My question was rhetorical, as we are to pray for all men. (1 Tim 2:1)
Who Me said:
One does not have to like, or have forgiven someone to pray for them.
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I agree, especially when most of the hurting is done from far away.
We most often don't even see those who impact us the most.
Who Me said:
Do you honestly think Stephen had loving thoughts in his mind as he was bludgeoned to death by a barrage of stones!
He prayed Father forgive them. He did not say I forgive them.
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I do believe Stephen had only love in his heart at the time of his martyrdom.
 
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